OG M2 with Litchfield mods vs M2 Comp
Discussion
I've just sold my e46 M3, didn't intend on selling but the guy I pay to store it rang and made me a good offer plus I'm getting fed up managing 3 classic cars with no garage.
So now I'm thinking if I sell the mini clubman s daily I could replace it with an M2. I was weighing up an OG M2 vs an M2 Comp, there seems to be around 10k difference in price between them for cars with similar mileage. I prefer the wheels on the older model but really don't like the front seats, I've read that you can easily fit the M4/M3 seats which are around £1200 on ebay so I was thinking
OG M2 + M3 seats + Litchfield Bilsteins (with corner balance and alignment) + Litchfield remap
That would be around £5k so half the outlay needed to move up to a comp and I think you'd end up with a pretty nice package, does this seem like a good way to spend my money or would I be best going for the comp?
Also anyone ferry largish dogs around in the back of these? I have a greyhound that needs to be comfortable for 3 hour drives at a time
So now I'm thinking if I sell the mini clubman s daily I could replace it with an M2. I was weighing up an OG M2 vs an M2 Comp, there seems to be around 10k difference in price between them for cars with similar mileage. I prefer the wheels on the older model but really don't like the front seats, I've read that you can easily fit the M4/M3 seats which are around £1200 on ebay so I was thinking
OG M2 + M3 seats + Litchfield Bilsteins (with corner balance and alignment) + Litchfield remap
That would be around £5k so half the outlay needed to move up to a comp and I think you'd end up with a pretty nice package, does this seem like a good way to spend my money or would I be best going for the comp?
Also anyone ferry largish dogs around in the back of these? I have a greyhound that needs to be comfortable for 3 hour drives at a time
I too have had similar thoughts and come to the following conclusion.
OG is a good car and the N55 has its merits but I personally would want an undisputed ///M car and with it an ///M engine. If I'm going to buy into something I want the whole experience not 8/10ths of it. Also the Comp has that lovely carbon strut brace and a nicer interior. When I opened the door of an M2 Comp for the first time I was surprised by how much the seat change and little bits of alcantara lifted the cabin. I also prefer the drivemode switches. I'd also swap the Comp wheels for a set of OGs which to me are more pleasing to the eye and save roughly 10kg iirc.
OG is a good car and the N55 has its merits but I personally would want an undisputed ///M car and with it an ///M engine. If I'm going to buy into something I want the whole experience not 8/10ths of it. Also the Comp has that lovely carbon strut brace and a nicer interior. When I opened the door of an M2 Comp for the first time I was surprised by how much the seat change and little bits of alcantara lifted the cabin. I also prefer the drivemode switches. I'd also swap the Comp wheels for a set of OGs which to me are more pleasing to the eye and save roughly 10kg iirc.
PorkInsider said:
I would go for the M2C for the engine, personally.
It's a 'proper' M engine, compared to the non-comp one in the original which is basically a boosted up 135i engine.
It's a 'proper' M engine, compared to the non-comp one in the original which is basically a boosted up 135i engine.
FTW said:
OG is a good car and the N55 has its merits but I personally would want an undisputed ///M car and with it an ///M engine. If I'm going to buy into something I want the whole experience not 8/10ths of it.
And to be fair it borrows so much from the S55, and in particular the all important sump, that I don't think anyone would feel short changed nor at 8/10ths.
And it's 55kgs lighter.
Edited by nickfrog on Friday 5th March 13:53
I have to admit I have no experience with the N55 or S55, is there much difference between them such as rev limit or how quickly they rev? I kind of (perhaps wrongly) assumed adding a tubro to a straight 6 would give them similar characteristics and both would be lacking in some departments compared to the S54. From videos I've watched the N55 seems to sounds better.
The cheapest Comp is around £36.5k with c. 35k miles and the cheapest OG in good condition with same mileage is around £26.5k, 5k worth of upgrades would get you comp seats, comp power and suspension that would be seen as an upgrade over the comp. Also considering F80 M3s due to the dog but would rather an M2 if I can help it
The cheapest Comp is around £36.5k with c. 35k miles and the cheapest OG in good condition with same mileage is around £26.5k, 5k worth of upgrades would get you comp seats, comp power and suspension that would be seen as an upgrade over the comp. Also considering F80 M3s due to the dog but would rather an M2 if I can help it
You would need to drive both - the S55 revs higher and does have a better top end BUT the N55 feels more "NA" on the way there.
Seats: the Comp seats look so much better and upmarket. But compared to the OG seats with the lumbar support option don't offer more support. They're both ergonomically excellent seats. If I was going to upgrade the OG seats I would go straight to Recaro Sporter CS.
Seats: the Comp seats look so much better and upmarket. But compared to the OG seats with the lumbar support option don't offer more support. They're both ergonomically excellent seats. If I was going to upgrade the OG seats I would go straight to Recaro Sporter CS.
I’ve owned an original M2 for 3.5 years now and just last month changed it for a comp, the differences are quite noticeable namely the sound (worse) and the handling (better) it feels more planted where as the og seemed very twitchy on the same roads this could be down to revised mapping, diff settings, and steering. It’s got more power at the upper revs that’s obvious but similar power to the og low down, the old car would break traction at the slightest throttle provocation and at low revs where as the comp doesn’t.
The seats and clocks seem to be an improvement but not that noticeable, so overall I’m liking the comp now the weather has slightly improved but my main dislike is the the sound of the exhaust due to the opf filters, my og had a full Remus which sounded pretty epic all the time, on the comp it’s something that can be improved but it could cost you your warranty.
Ubbs
The seats and clocks seem to be an improvement but not that noticeable, so overall I’m liking the comp now the weather has slightly improved but my main dislike is the the sound of the exhaust due to the opf filters, my og had a full Remus which sounded pretty epic all the time, on the comp it’s something that can be improved but it could cost you your warranty.
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Terminator X said:
^^ I have the M2C and have to agree that on a dry road it sticks very well for a powerful RWD car proper surprised me. Careful in the wet though of course 
TX.
We’ve had the same interest in cars over the years like me I think you had an rs3 years back! But yeah the comp is definitely a bit more refined the og’s torque is available low down hence the slippy slides around the townTX.
shea89 said:
I have to admit I have no experience with the N55 or S55, is there much difference between them such as rev limit or how quickly they rev? I kind of (perhaps wrongly) assumed adding a tubro to a straight 6 would give them similar characteristics and both would be lacking in some departments compared to the S54. From videos I've watched the N55 seems to sounds better.
The cheapest Comp is around £36.5k with c. 35k miles and the cheapest OG in good condition with same mileage is around £26.5k, 5k worth of upgrades would get you comp seats, comp power and suspension that would be seen as an upgrade over the comp. Also considering F80 M3s due to the dog but would rather an M2 if I can help it
Mine could be had for 38k with 9000 miles...The cheapest Comp is around £36.5k with c. 35k miles and the cheapest OG in good condition with same mileage is around £26.5k, 5k worth of upgrades would get you comp seats, comp power and suspension that would be seen as an upgrade over the comp. Also considering F80 M3s due to the dog but would rather an M2 if I can help it
FTW said:
S55 has a closed deck block unlike the N55
Sure and it needs it particularly for the high power versions. Conversely, the N55 is probably limited to around the power of the OG M2.On the other hand the crank hub issue seems to affect the S55 but not the N55, probably again because of the lower power.
They're both great engines in their own way and at different price points.
Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 6th March 11:18
N55 sounds much nicer than the S55 imo but the S55 does rev quite a bit higher
The N55 in the OG M2 is quite a bit different to that found in the x35i variants.
That said I would always choose the Comp over the OG car , its a much better all round package ie engine, features, interior
The N55 in the OG M2 is quite a bit different to that found in the x35i variants.
That said I would always choose the Comp over the OG car , its a much better all round package ie engine, features, interior
Just brought an OG, could have got a Comp on a £595 down and £595 Deposit but decided on the OG for the following reasons
- I wanted a manual and the deals on the Comps were all DCT at the time.
- I liked the rawness of the OG and its not a daily so the twitchyness doesnt matter to me
- It sounds so much better and I have brought a second hand M performance system which is going on next week (excited)
So far I am loving it and hope to keep it long term and will probably end up tracking it so it will be improved further, both are bloody brilliant cars TBH.
- I wanted a manual and the deals on the Comps were all DCT at the time.
- I liked the rawness of the OG and its not a daily so the twitchyness doesnt matter to me
- It sounds so much better and I have brought a second hand M performance system which is going on next week (excited)
So far I am loving it and hope to keep it long term and will probably end up tracking it so it will be improved further, both are bloody brilliant cars TBH.
nickfrog said:
They're both brilliant engines but I find that the N55 version developed for the M2 feels as much M as the S55, and in fact more so in terms of sound and power delivery.
And to be fair it borrows so much from the S55, and in particular the all important sump, that I don't think anyone would feel short changed nor at 8/10ths.
And it's 55kgs lighter.
100% this. I took both ooriiginal M2 and a comp for a spin and just couldn't see the £10k diff in price. The 'noise' alone on the original is miles better than the comp's almost muffled sound. And to be fair it borrows so much from the S55, and in particular the all important sump, that I don't think anyone would feel short changed nor at 8/10ths.
And it's 55kgs lighter.
Edited by nickfrog on Friday 5th March 13:53
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