M3 Touring latest
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Wheelspinning said:
My dealer says they are being allocated 4 tourings initially.
I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
I really did fancy one but that’s 30% more than my m4 , simply can’t justify that cheaper to buy a nice 2 year old Volvo estate and run that alongside the m4I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
Wheelspinning said:
My dealer says they are being allocated 4 tourings initially.
I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
Techno Violet paint is 4.5K? Ouch... And like you say, will delay the car further.I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
Do BMW finance offer GFV on their plans? I'm really interested/also dreading how these deals are going to look.
Still no word from my dealer, I think I was number 3 on their list of deposits...
Wheelspinning said:
My dealer says they are being allocated 4 tourings initially.
I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
Fair play if you ordered it like that!I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
TX.
cosmokmike said:
Techno Violet paint is 4.5K? Ouch... And like you say, will delay the car further.
Do BMW finance offer GFV on their plans? I'm really interested/also dreading how these deals are going to look.
Still no word from my dealer, I think I was number 3 on their list of deposits...
Cannot comment on the BMW finance or gfv.Do BMW finance offer GFV on their plans? I'm really interested/also dreading how these deals are going to look.
Still no word from my dealer, I think I was number 3 on their list of deposits...
My dealer says they have only been allocated 4 currently.
Although not 'limited', they are expecting it to be similar to GT3 whereas they shall get allocations but not dozens or unlimited.
With this, I cannot see it being like previous M3 and M5 where they offered great deals or contributions as although I havn't checked, the DP told me the configurator has been removed as BMW were overwhelmed with build spec requests.
My dealer has not taken a deposit of me as he has no details as of yet. I have a letter confirming the order but it is of a generic spec at the moment that shall be changed as soon as the build slots are given to the dealers.
Still a mind boggling amount of cash for an M3, but i imagine the value should stay strong with no incentives and orders far outstripping demand.
If any of that changes, I would then pass on my order.
What they did with the M5 a few years back was shocking; small deposits and £600 a month for 2yrs etc destroyed the values.
McLaren did the same with the 600LT.
Hopefully lessons learned.
Wheelspinning said:
Cannot comment on the BMW finance or gfv.
My dealer says they have only been allocated 4 currently.
Although not 'limited', they are expecting it to be similar to GT3 whereas they shall get allocations but not dozens or unlimited.
With this, I cannot see it being like previous M3 and M5 where they offered great deals or contributions as although I havn't checked, the DP told me the configurator has been removed as BMW were overwhelmed with build spec requests.
My dealer has not taken a deposit of me as he has no details as of yet. I have a letter confirming the order but it is of a generic spec at the moment that shall be changed as soon as the build slots are given to the dealers.
Still a mind boggling amount of cash for an M3, but i imagine the value should stay strong with no incentives and orders far outstripping demand.
If any of that changes, I would then pass on my order.
What they did with the M5 a few years back was shocking; small deposits and £600 a month for 2yrs etc destroyed the values.
McLaren did the same with the 600LT.
Hopefully lessons learned.
Yes, that’s kind of what I was thinking, that if the availability is “limited” and there is clearly the demand, so long as they don’t do something stupid with the finance side of things, they should suffer from normal depreciation. I guess we just need to wait and see what happens when actual orders get placed.My dealer says they have only been allocated 4 currently.
Although not 'limited', they are expecting it to be similar to GT3 whereas they shall get allocations but not dozens or unlimited.
With this, I cannot see it being like previous M3 and M5 where they offered great deals or contributions as although I havn't checked, the DP told me the configurator has been removed as BMW were overwhelmed with build spec requests.
My dealer has not taken a deposit of me as he has no details as of yet. I have a letter confirming the order but it is of a generic spec at the moment that shall be changed as soon as the build slots are given to the dealers.
Still a mind boggling amount of cash for an M3, but i imagine the value should stay strong with no incentives and orders far outstripping demand.
If any of that changes, I would then pass on my order.
What they did with the M5 a few years back was shocking; small deposits and £600 a month for 2yrs etc destroyed the values.
McLaren did the same with the 600LT.
Hopefully lessons learned.
It’s an awful lot of money on a BMW, but I’m looking on something like this as a long term, “keeper”, so just need to consider all options. Not sure what else I’d rather have that fits the criteria - RS4s and 6s are also very expensive machines these days…
I do still like the look of Techno Violet with black wheels though….
cosmokmike said:
Yes, that’s kind of what I was thinking, that if the availability is “limited” and there is clearly the demand, so long as they don’t do something stupid with the finance side of things, they should suffer from normal depreciation. I guess we just need to wait and see what happens when actual orders get placed.
It’s an awful lot of money on a BMW, but I’m looking on something like this as a long term, “keeper”, so just need to consider all options. Not sure what else I’d rather have that fits the criteria - RS4s and 6s are also very expensive machines these days…
I do still like the look of Techno Violet with black wheels though….
Personally its a tricky one the RS4 is desperate for a refresh especially the interior, RS6 extremely thirsty and also massive, i personally find the 3er/x3 size car/suv the perfect size for UK carparks and roads.It’s an awful lot of money on a BMW, but I’m looking on something like this as a long term, “keeper”, so just need to consider all options. Not sure what else I’d rather have that fits the criteria - RS4s and 6s are also very expensive machines these days…
I do still like the look of Techno Violet with black wheels though….
Over a 102k for a 3er is crazy money.. if we strip back all the marketing buzz they made a M3 big and created an X3M to then stick a 3 series touring body on it. Now BMW have also gotten into the habit of sticking cut out wing mirrors on their M40i models will it really stick out as that special…
WY86 said:
cosmokmike said:
Yes, that’s kind of what I was thinking, that if the availability is “limited” and there is clearly the demand, so long as they don’t do something stupid with the finance side of things, they should suffer from normal depreciation. I guess we just need to wait and see what happens when actual orders get placed.
It’s an awful lot of money on a BMW, but I’m looking on something like this as a long term, “keeper”, so just need to consider all options. Not sure what else I’d rather have that fits the criteria - RS4s and 6s are also very expensive machines these days…
I do still like the look of Techno Violet with black wheels though….
Personally its a tricky one the RS4 is desperate for a refresh especially the interior, RS6 extremely thirsty and also massive, i personally find the 3er/x3 size car/suv the perfect size for UK carparks and roads.It’s an awful lot of money on a BMW, but I’m looking on something like this as a long term, “keeper”, so just need to consider all options. Not sure what else I’d rather have that fits the criteria - RS4s and 6s are also very expensive machines these days…
I do still like the look of Techno Violet with black wheels though….
Over a 102k for a 3er is crazy money.. if we strip back all the marketing buzz they made a M3 big and created an X3M to then stick a 3 series touring body on it. Now BMW have also gotten into the habit of sticking cut out wing mirrors on their M40i models will it really stick out as that special…
As for whether they will drop, BMW have burnt a few bridges over the last ten years with big discounts at different stages of the life cycle on M cars and they haven't held up as well as RS.
It doesn't look like there will be huge supply at first but they could end up doing what they did with the M2 and dumping a load of them on the market before each LCI.
What is the GFV being quoted on them at the moment? While I would love a M3 touring, it's looking like 50-60k more than I paid for my m340i touring new 2 years ago, and while I know that the M3 will be an epic drive that difference gets you a great weekend car for driving thrills.
But as a "one car does all solution" the M3 touring must be hard to beat.
But as a "one car does all solution" the M3 touring must be hard to beat.
Wheelspinning said:
My dealer says they are being allocated 4 tourings initially.
I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
Over 100k for an M3 I have been lucky enough to be allocated one.
With the M pro pack and the ultimate pack its going to come in around £102k.
Thats a decent amount of cash for an M3.
Adding Techno Violet puts another £4.5k onto that and a heap of extra delivery time.
Does look pretty cool though.
Agree it does look cool though. And purple is such a great colour on almost any car IMO.
Starting price for the M3 Touring is 80K. Looking at the options, its the ceramics and the carbon styling pack w/bucket seats that are the pricey options. I'm sure quite a few people will just spec a couple of the smaller options packs or individual options meaning their car isn't going to be 100K....
The cheapest RS4 is 69K, but they have four different models available with the Vorsprung at 87K. I've not looked at the detailed options comparison though. Adding ceramics looks to be a similar cost and the RS6 starts at 96K now.
Main takeaway for me is that I'm feeling old as I always think of M3s as costing about 40K! E46 loyal 😃
The cheapest RS4 is 69K, but they have four different models available with the Vorsprung at 87K. I've not looked at the detailed options comparison though. Adding ceramics looks to be a similar cost and the RS6 starts at 96K now.
Main takeaway for me is that I'm feeling old as I always think of M3s as costing about 40K! E46 loyal 😃
WY86 said:
ST66N said:
They are pricing it right in between the RS4 and RS6 once you allow for options packs etc, which is probably fair enough.
Why is it fair enough… it competes directly with the RS4? A fully specced RS4 Vorsprung is £87k.I’ve got an RS4 it’s a great car. The M3 has a chunk more power, bit more torque, better drivetrain, better interior. Also some of the difference to the £103k will be options that aren’t really available on the current RS4.
BMW have tried to move the M3/4 up towards Porsche money and performance. I would expect people who consider the M3 Touring will also look at RS4 and RS6.
By the time you have just a couple of basic options and paint it’s easy to add £10k to the base and the fact is the monthlies won’t be much different since the residual is better
I often get told that not having the carbon seats is going to be a killer on mine come resale so low spec cars may well not be the best option
liner33 said:
By the time you have just a couple of basic options and paint it’s easy to add £10k to the base and the fact is the monthlies won’t be much different since the residual is better
I often get told that not having the carbon seats is going to be a killer on mine come resale so low spec cars may well not be the best option
I really need to try an M3/M4 with the carbon seats, but I have to say, based on what I've read, if I'm going to use the Touring as an everyday car, I've kind of been put-off ordering them before I've even tried them.I often get told that not having the carbon seats is going to be a killer on mine come resale so low spec cars may well not be the best option
In talking to a friend who tried both before going for the standard seats and a couple of recent videos, the point was made that on long journeys they're great; on track they're great, but if you're getting in and out of them regularly, they're a bit of a PITA. Especially that weird bit between your legs.
Like I say, I'll need to try them out, but I'm leaning towards not having them and I'm not sure how much that will impact resale value - particularly on a touring which you'd assume is going to be used much more as an everyday car?
So, based on that and the info that's been released, I was thinking...
Base car - 80K
Visibility pack - £1500
Technology Plus - £1750
Comfort Pack - £990
50 Years Badges (how are these not a zero-cost option) - £300
825 Alloys - £300
So that comes to just under 85K.
Extended leather is £300, full leather is £1700.
Some of the exterior carbon bits look nice, so maybe I'd look at a few of those.
Only thing I'm not sure about is the colour. I really liked Techno Violet on the old M5 wagon and every time I've seen it since (which has been few and far between) I really like it, but is it worth 4.5K and a delay
Base car - 80K
Visibility pack - £1500
Technology Plus - £1750
Comfort Pack - £990
50 Years Badges (how are these not a zero-cost option) - £300
825 Alloys - £300
So that comes to just under 85K.
Extended leather is £300, full leather is £1700.
Some of the exterior carbon bits look nice, so maybe I'd look at a few of those.
Only thing I'm not sure about is the colour. I really liked Techno Violet on the old M5 wagon and every time I've seen it since (which has been few and far between) I really like it, but is it worth 4.5K and a delay
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