Is there much of a difference between a Z4M and a 3.0i..?

[dan101smith]

Sorry, wasn't explicit enough - the two versions of the 3.0 are nippy but not mega-rapid, the //M version is!



(Typed on my phone from my Veyron )

[900T-R]

dan101smith said:

(Typed on my phone from my Veyron )

Yeah, I know; you were the one I just overtook in my Centennaire version right? - the 349 extra horses do come in handy sometimes when you're in the cut and thrust of modern traffic.

[E30M3SE]

mikez328 said:

dan101smith said:

As alluded to earlier, there are two versions of the 3.0 engine available - one with 231bhp and one with 250-odd (exact figures escape me).

Both pretty nippy, but neither properly rapid.

The //M engine is a peach. If they'd offered SMG as an option on it I'd have one sitting outside right now, instead of a 3.0 auto.

Dan, where in the world was this elusive 250bhp Z4 3.0 sold? BMW have NEVER quoted more than the standard 231bhp for a Z4 3.0 - ever. Alpina & AC Schnitzer certainly have - but they are completely unique builds.

N52B30 magnesium block engine in 2006 fitted to the 3.0Si model produced 255bhp and this ran until production ceased.

[mmm-five]

It's also listed in the brochure - http://www.bmwz4roadster.net/brochure/2007_E85-E86... - on page 25, the last 2 columns for the 3.0si.

[boobles]

Have you considered the Z3 M Roadster instead? 1425kg 321 bhp, no traction control. thank you very much. Awsome car

[Dover Nige]

fridaypassion said:

Your going in with the right budget you can take your pick of the best at that price.

Things to watch as you rightly say the 1200 mile service is essential. Check which service is due next and how many miles to go till it's due. You can ring a dedicated bmw phone line to double check service history as it's quite common for books not go be stamped. Watch out for ex fleet cars. 50% of the cars I enquired about were ex fleet with imminent inspection 2 serices due.

Petrol wise expect 20 mpg and you can eek 300 miles out of a tank but 200 is probably nearer. 45 quid should fill her up.

The MPG seems near identical to my Impreza then.

It seems my difficulty is going to be finding a good one to really hook me in.

Thanks for all your help so far chaps. It's very much appreciated. apart from the z4-forum, is there anywhere else I can read up and absorb all the info on these cars..?

[The Milfman]

Bought my Z4MC yesterday!!

All i'll say is that I think i'm in love , I thought my 996 was quick but !! What a car!!

I had been searching for months for the right car and doing all the research, it is so much more than I expected!

If you want any info on how I went about it & what I ended up with, PM me.

Happy hunting!!

[Beedub]

dan101smith said:

Sorry, wasn't explicit enough - the two versions of the 3.0 are nippy but not mega-rapid, the //M version is!



(Typed on my phone from my Veyron )

my bad, it was the wording, anyway ive got the vids from my my friends 4.7 to sixty run , i'll post em up later when i get home. you reminded me when i was ranting!! lol

[Slurms]

boobles said:

Have you considered the Z3 M Roadster instead? 1425kg 321 bhp, no traction control. thank you very much. Awsome car

Isn't the rear suspension setup the weakness of this car? Derived from the E30? So quite old in comparison?

[tomvcarter]

3.0 makes you look like a hairdresser.
M lets people know you mean business, M = Beast!

[duckson]

What are the proper weights of the Z4M Coupe and Roadster as i thought the Roadster was 60kg heavier than the Coupe?

[Top pup]

Porscheplayer said:

The Z4 he drove had M suspension, so I'd assume it has the same struts...is this not true?

No I think the only part the front suspension shares on the two cars is the wishbone, here's a few pics to illustrate the difference.

Z4M


Z4 (including those fitted with M/sports suspension)


There rear suspension is also similar in that it shares very few parts between the two cars.

[Ed Winchester]

I remember reading somewhere that the rear suspension and brake set up are the same as the CSL.

[Rich_Alpina]

Ed Winchester said:

I remember reading somewhere that the rear suspension and brake set up are the same as the CSL.

Rear suspension and brakes are from the csl.

[Rich_Alpina]

900T-R said:

Of course there's the dark horse - Alpina Roadster S...

I had one for just over a year, great straight line speed.. BUT get to a bend and the car left nervous - spent lots of ££££ on suspension, strut braces, anti roll bars, etc, but never fully cured the problem. Now have the Z4MC for 18 mnths and no mods at all - car feels spot on!!!

I agree with all the above threads, there's a clear distinction between "M" and non M cars....

[mat205125]

You're asing the question in the M section!!!

[Mattt]

duckson said:

What are the proper weights of the Z4M Coupe and Roadster as i thought the Roadster was 60kg heavier than the Coupe?

I was informed that the Coupe was slightly heavier than the Roadster - which is normally the other way round! Presumably because it was designed as a Roadster first?

[KENZ]

Coupe is heavier than the roadster 30 kilos I think.. Mind the structure is a Z4M roadster with a welded roof. BMW then changed the suspension settings to take advantage of the stiffness. In theory you should get faster times on a coupe..

[boobles]

Slurms said:

boobles said:

Have you considered the Z3 M Roadster instead? 1425kg 321 bhp, no traction control. thank you very much. Awsome car

Isn't the rear suspension setup the weakness of this car? Derived from the E30? So quite old in comparison?

No idea, i just drive the thing.
Coming from an Elise, i can honestly say that the Z3 is more than capable around the twisties.

[Dover Nige]

mikez328 said:

mmm-five said:

...I might have hunted down a nice 3.0si Coupe.. Still over the moon with the ///M though...

I'm interested in this? Why would you have looked for the 3.0Si over the M? I'm only interested as I've read that the 3.0 is the easier car to live with day to day and I'm keen to get a balanced opinion as opposed to a biased one....?