NEW M3 CS VS E46 CSL
Discussion
I remember going to drive some supercars at Elvington in early 2008 and you'd get shown around the course in a CSL before, then ragged around in a CSL after.
The whole point of these is to drive them, road or track.
It's like the 360CS, (driven at Elvington that same visit), now valued stupidly.
Given the bubbles in values of so many cars right now I'd be swiftly selling out if I had either of those cars because I can't see them being really worth that much until there are a lot less around in another 10-15yrs time.
The whole point of these is to drive them, road or track.
It's like the 360CS, (driven at Elvington that same visit), now valued stupidly.
Given the bubbles in values of so many cars right now I'd be swiftly selling out if I had either of those cars because I can't see them being really worth that much until there are a lot less around in another 10-15yrs time.
darreni said:
For some of us, the value of the car isn’t related to its selling price.
If it's selling price doesn't effect your use of the car then that is great.I'd bet most people enjoying that perspective bought their CSL near new or at the end of their dip in prices though, so have had their money's worth.
I was looking at 996T and M3 CSL a bit in 09/10.
It'd have been a stretch.
Around then they seemed very good value for an 'ok' example.
I expected continuing mild depreciation but in hindsight they'd have essentially been 'free to run'
Edited by Mr Whippy on Saturday 23 December 00:33
I sold my CSL right before they rocketed to the silly prices being asked. It was a truly superb car in looks, feel and build but let down massively with the gearbox. The SMG is such a marmite affair, for me it just didn’t work.
If I could have afforded to keep it (sold to fund house renovations) I would have still had it, but it would have been purely as an investment piece.
Still the best looking car BMW have ever produced.
If I could have afforded to keep it (sold to fund house renovations) I would have still had it, but it would have been purely as an investment piece.
Still the best looking car BMW have ever produced.
Mr Whippy said:
I remember going to drive some supercars at Elvington in early 2008 and you'd get shown around the course in a CSL before, then ragged around in a CSL after.
The whole point of these is to drive them, road or track.
It's like the 360CS, (driven at Elvington that same visit), now valued stupidly.
Given the bubbles in values of so many cars right now I'd be swiftly selling out if I had either of those cars because I can't see them being really worth that much until there are a lot less around in another 10-15yrs time.
Nah....the ex-owner path is littered with regret.The whole point of these is to drive them, road or track.
It's like the 360CS, (driven at Elvington that same visit), now valued stupidly.
Given the bubbles in values of so many cars right now I'd be swiftly selling out if I had either of those cars because I can't see them being really worth that much until there are a lot less around in another 10-15yrs time.
I bought in 2009 and was offered double what I paid a couple of years back with +30k miles.
Sometimes (particularly when you're a petrolhead) there is more to life than a quick buck.
Wills2 said:
Evolved said:
Still the best looking car BMW have ever produced.
The E46 M shape (regular M3 and CSL) has perfect proportions imo. Appreciate eye of beholder etc.
Wills2 said:
Evolved said:
Still the best looking car BMW have ever produced.
The E46 CSL was and still is, proportionally bang on. For me, their best yet.
Evolved said:
Wills2 said:
Evolved said:
Still the best looking car BMW have ever produced.
The E46 CSL was and still is, proportionally bang on. For me, their best yet.
Yanto said:
Nah....the ex-owner path is littered with regret.
I bought in 2009 and was offered double what I paid a couple of years back with +30k miles.
Sometimes (particularly when you're a petrolhead) there is more to life than a quick buck.
As long as owners who now find themselves in huge positive equity (vs what they assumed) still use and enjoy them then that is great.I bought in 2009 and was offered double what I paid a couple of years back with +30k miles.
Sometimes (particularly when you're a petrolhead) there is more to life than a quick buck.
If it's made them become over-protective that's not so good.
Bar the ones I went in at Elvington I've never seen one out on the road.
I bet the chances are even lower now.
I'd sell it if I wasn't going to use it, despite the fact I'd be tempted to hold on to see how high the prices got.
Cars as investments seems to me like the antithesis of being a car enthusiast.
Mr Whippy said:
As long as owners who now find themselves in huge positive equity (vs what they assumed) still use and enjoy them then that is great.
If it's made them become over-protective that's not so good.
Bar the ones I went in at Elvington I've never seen one out on the road.
I bet the chances are even lower now.
I'd sell it if I wasn't going to use it, despite the fact I'd be tempted to hold on to see how high the prices got.
Cars as investments seems to me like the antithesis of being a car enthusiast.
You just need to be in the right place at the right time. End of Nov 2017. If it's made them become over-protective that's not so good.
Bar the ones I went in at Elvington I've never seen one out on the road.
I bet the chances are even lower now.
I'd sell it if I wasn't going to use it, despite the fact I'd be tempted to hold on to see how high the prices got.
Cars as investments seems to me like the antithesis of being a car enthusiast.
trawler said:
Mr Whippy said:
As long as owners who now find themselves in huge positive equity (vs what they assumed) still use and enjoy them then that is great.
If it's made them become over-protective that's not so good.
Bar the ones I went in at Elvington I've never seen one out on the road.
I bet the chances are even lower now.
I'd sell it if I wasn't going to use it, despite the fact I'd be tempted to hold on to see how high the prices got.
Cars as investments seems to me like the antithesis of being a car enthusiast.
You just need to be in the right place at the right time. End of Nov 2017. If it's made them become over-protective that's not so good.
Bar the ones I went in at Elvington I've never seen one out on the road.
I bet the chances are even lower now.
I'd sell it if I wasn't going to use it, despite the fact I'd be tempted to hold on to see how high the prices got.
Cars as investments seems to me like the antithesis of being a car enthusiast.
It is a great shame the CSL was not made with a manual option but saying that the new CS is still a fat boy - 1585 Kg !!!! If it was a proper CS Leichtbau then you may be able to compare. As an autobahn cruiser with a dash of sport thrown in it is interesting but is too fat for track and too big for congested UK roads. Does it have a manual option?
As already said the e46 is a beautiful looking car (one of the best) and the e90 M variants are pretty good but just too big.
Pip
As already said the e46 is a beautiful looking car (one of the best) and the e90 M variants are pretty good but just too big.
Pip
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