Original Dodge Challenger

Original Dodge Challenger

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newsatten

1,267 posts

83 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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Epic!
first job bin the ste rubber, Bias/Cross ply whatever are only suitable for hanging over the side of barges not rolling on em!


Blimey thought this thread was dead, now its got probably the only true Muscle Car on here! laugh



amgmcqueen

2,499 posts

119 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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newsatten said:
Epic!
first job bin the ste rubber, Bias/Cross ply whatever are only suitable for hanging over the side of barges not rolling on em!


Blimey thought this thread was dead, now its got probably the only true Muscle Car on here! laugh
What's wrong with Goodyear Polyglas....?

newsatten

1,267 posts

83 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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I can only assume youve never driven a yank with Bias Tyres lol

They are the work of Lucifer redcard

Athlon

4,422 posts

175 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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I had a really nice 68 Dart 4 speed, it flew on the strip, looked great at shows on Poyglass redstreak tyres, it was without doubt the worst car to drive on the road, I could have cried on the way back to Manchester from the 'Pod on the M6! Swapped the wheel and tyres for mags and modern radials for day to day and it was epic! Poly's for the show. real tyres for the drive.

newsatten

1,267 posts

83 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Spot on son!
if your Hemi is stationary the Polyglass all day long, however if you actually want to use and enjoy it bin the F------s !

lol

vpr

3,300 posts

207 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Are these effectively Crossplys?

I thought they were radials or sorts

It’s steers really bad but that is down to the no mans land in the box

aeropilot

25,216 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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vpr said:
Are these effectively Crossplys?
Yes.


newsatten

1,267 posts

83 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Unless theres a massive amount of free slop in your box, or the idler is shot , it will be those crap boots!
They really are biblically bad lol.......................................

Fit your Charger wheels and tyres and give it a blast, you will be amazed at the difference laugh

amgmcqueen

2,499 posts

119 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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newsatten said:
I can only assume youve never driven a yank with Bias Tyres lol

They are the work of Lucifer redcard
laugh I haven't ever driven on bias ply tyres and genuinely interested.

What characteristics do they have when driving compared to radials....?

aeropilot

25,216 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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amgmcqueen said:
newsatten said:
I can only assume youve never driven a yank with Bias Tyres lol

They are the work of Lucifer redcard
laugh I haven't ever driven on bias ply tyres and genuinely interested.

What characteristics do they have when driving compared to radials....?
They wander all over the place, poor braking, crap aquaplane resistance, need inner tubes.....

But, I don't mind them on old stuff (pre 1960's) as its what the chassis were designed for, and they make you realise you are driving an old car, not a young car.

vpr

3,300 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Doesn’t say it’s a cross ply here???

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Polyglas_...

aeropilot

25,216 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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vpr said:
Doesn’t say it’s a cross ply here???

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Polyglas_...
It does in the first sentence.

Bias-belted.

The article explains that its a bias-ply tyre with some added belts, so a sort of attempt at improving a bias-ply (crossply) tyre prior to the introduction of radial tyres.

vpr

3,300 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Except it refers to tyres up to this point being of cross ply construction


aeropilot

25,216 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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vpr said:
Except it refers to tyres up to this point being of cross ply construction

And the next sentence is:
"The Polyglas tires had bias construction that added stabilizing circumference belts directly beneath the tread".

And a bit further down that article it says:
"The Polyglas tire and its competitors were soon replaced by steel belted radials as original equipment tires around 1975."

As I said, they were a hybrid bias-ply prior to radial tyre introduction to try and cope with the extremes of the late 60's muscle car era.
They were only a marginal improvement on the earlier bias-ply tyres, and not a patch on proper radial tyres.
Good for burnouts though smile

vpr

3,300 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Ok gotcha

They look good wink

newsatten

1,267 posts

83 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Yep look fab, look period Muscle Car, perfect of glamour shots,

And i guess thats the thing, a genuine 426/4 speed is a rare and very valuable piece of Sculpture ,
And as such as a stationary bit of automotive art the way it actually drives is academic .

Just seems a waste, to be lucky enough to own the holy grail and not to enjoy itconfused

aeropilot

25,216 posts

196 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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vpr said:
Ok gotcha

They look good wink
They do.

And if it was my car, I'd fit them as well, but that's because I like period cars to drive like period cars, warts n all.


aeropilot

25,216 posts

196 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Been sifting through some old slides of mine from decades ago, and scanning them, and came across this Chally photo I took at Gary's Picnic at Avon Park Raceway back in May 1991.


vpr

3,300 posts

207 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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newsatten said:
Yep look fab, look period Muscle Car, perfect of glamour shots,

And i guess thats the thing, a genuine 426/4 speed is a rare and very valuable piece of Sculpture ,
And as such as a stationary bit of automotive art the way it actually drives is academic .

Just seems a waste, to be lucky enough to own the holy grail and not to enjoy itconfused
He plans on using it on high days and dry days.

newsatten

1,267 posts

83 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Just look at that dodgy glass sunroof!
we fitted a ton of em, and although they were very popular at the time, its now turns out we actually ruined every car that had one laugh

I had a CJ muzzie at one point that had a dual glass roof, plus a very trendy piece of mood lighting in the centre, Chic smokin

Lol any one restoring that car now would be so p------d, Skinning a roof is a mission !!!