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roscobbc

3,351 posts

242 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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newsatten said:
rat rod said:
With your new shop waiting for you a couple of weekends should sort it ,Is that the guy from Essex again.

Not Mustang related but my mate had a look at the Gallardo and we got spark but no petrol, has 2 fuel pumps and

says unlikely both pumps would go together so at least one bank should run, any ideas ? confused
So hard to say, as all these things are interconnected , some times the pump/s dont run till your crank the motor, pump relays, pump shut off,
piss--- in the wind really laugh
I remember once i had the door panel off a Porsche to change a broken mirror, i removed the mirror a few minutes later i had to move the car for some reason, no Throttle ! would only move in limp mode , Dark Magic laugh

Some form of sensor (that has failed, disconnected or been subject to corrosion and gone open circuit) connected to fuel pump circuit preventing a 'read' signal?

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
Not sure if this guy is being ambitious or just plain greedy ,

Just found the Challenger on the HH Auction results page, It was sold on the 24th March for £28,710 with commission

Now asking £59,500 , yikes I suppose if you don't ask you don't get ,

I can't find it now but you posted a link to a 68 Thunderbird in white a while ago that from memory was around £18,950 .

It's still on E-Bay for £17,500 was sold on the same day at HH as the the Challenger for £10,710 with commission,

Good mark up on the T/bird but crazy one on the Challenger, right result if he pulls it off.

Think with the difference in the retail internet prices compared to trade auction prices might be worth taking a punt

even if you can't drive them, Apart from Mustangs generally auction buyers shy away from yanks must preferring

MG B's Mini Coopers and stuff like that so could use that to your advantage just got to have big balls and a lot of luck. scratchchin

If one or two problems at least you got some margin to spend a few bob on it ,

Would link the auction results if i knew how to save me writing all this out. rolleyes




Edited by rat rod on Saturday 17th April 09:48
Second attempt at posting this as my PC is going full on 'HAL 9000' on me!!

Yes it was the white T-Bird I put up RR.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Thunderbird-1968-s... I still really fancy something like this but the garage problem rears its head as ever and puts the mockers on it. With hindsight I wish I'd gone with our original plan ('plan A') back in 2013 and had the garage floor built on the same ground level as the access lane at the bottom of the garden, this would have given us another three or four feet in length, but for whatever reason (I forget what it was now) we had it placed on a slightly raised concrete base with a slope between it and the double gates we installed. When I ordered the garage I only had the Cooper S and my 1970 Rover P5B Coupe and thought the 17ft internal depth would be plenty. 'Plan B' was to place the garage facing 90 degrees the other way with access at the far end of the plot allowing for a building at least 25ft long and about 18ft wide. First world problem and all that but it's my own fault, as usual! To demolish what we have now, dig out the concrete floor and start all over again would cost a fair chunk, leaving me less to spend on the actual car that will go in it.

My fantasy yank fleet in a fantasy sized workshop big enough to house all of them : '65 Buick Riviera, '66 Olds Toronado, '66 Impala SS two door hardtop, '69 Barracuda two door hardtop with flower power 'mod top', '68 or '69 Charger, '70 Challenger, '66 Dodge Coronet two door, '69 Plymouth Fury two door, '67 or '68 Mustang fastback in a non 'Bullitt' pastel colour with factory wheel trims etc, '67 Ford Galaxie 500 two door fastback, '68 to '72 chrome bumper Corvette, '67 Mercury Cougar.... all personal choices with no regard to future values, I just like them for what they are.

The reality is whatever will actually fit my measly double garage and can be driven in and out without scraping the paint off the sides : Mustang, Cougar, Firebird, Camaro, Corvette or Corvair and possibly one or two others I'm not aware of (?).




Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 14:33

newsatten

3,303 posts

114 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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laugh

very nice 72' Dodge Demon on E bay, straight solid, small V8 smallish body, absolutely perfect for the UK, tons of tuning stuff, no idea of what it will make price wise, but worth watching .........................

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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newsatten said:
laugh
74' Dart near me has come back on sale, going to roll down and have a look, its a factory V8 318, 5 bolt wheels etc,
being a 74 means it will have huge ugly bumpers, but worth a look as its on me door step laugh
Is that the same seller who has a Comet and a Fury for sale atm?

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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CAPP0 said:
newsatten said:
laugh
74' Dart near me has come back on sale, going to roll down and have a look, its a factory V8 318, 5 bolt wheels etc,
being a 74 means it will have huge ugly bumpers, but worth a look as its on me door step laugh
Is that the same seller who has a Comet and a Fury for sale atm?
Yes, same one, just been looking at them wink

roscobbc

3,351 posts

242 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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P5BNij said:
CAPP0 said:
newsatten said:
laugh
74' Dart near me has come back on sale, going to roll down and have a look, its a factory V8 318, 5 bolt wheels etc,
being a 74 means it will have huge ugly bumpers, but worth a look as its on me door step laugh
Is that the same seller who has a Comet and a Fury for sale atm?
Yes, same one, just been looking at them wink
Was going to say that the Dart he is selling was a comparitively 'reasonable' price compared with the metallic blue one - but both cars are in need of external paint perhaps.........?

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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roscobbc said:
P5BNij said:
CAPP0 said:
newsatten said:
laugh
74' Dart near me has come back on sale, going to roll down and have a look, its a factory V8 318, 5 bolt wheels etc,
being a 74 means it will have huge ugly bumpers, but worth a look as its on me door step laugh
Is that the same seller who has a Comet and a Fury for sale atm?
Yes, same one, just been looking at them wink
Was going to say that the Dart he is selling was a comparitively 'reasonable' price compared with the metallic blue one - but both cars are in need of external paint perhaps.........?
I agree, new paint and whatever's underneath the existing paint, and the interior needs some work too. Nice looking compact little car aside from the bumpers which look too big for it. I like the roofline at the back!

This '67 Barracuda has been for sale for quite a while but has great history from new, would fit my garage, I'd definitely go for it if I could afford it....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1111870

Just found it on youtube....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJlAy2eM8s



Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 17:19


ETA : bugger, it's already sold!!

Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 17:40

newsatten

3,303 posts

114 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Well over priced for a Notch Back, 60'' Barracudas are the least sort after of pretty much all the Mopars,
And as far as whats under the paint, pretty much applies to every and any older cars , buy a " so called fully restored car" all new sheet metal, pressed in China or Taiwan, fits were it touches, so it will welded, bent,cut, f---ed about like you wont believe, then filled with polyester, " bondo" as the yanks call it,

At the price point were talking about any nicely painted car will have gob in it! as will pretty much everything with a price tag of 100K plus.

All these poncy Yank car shows dont let you see 2 inches of Gob dust on the floor below a Ferrari Dino being squared up laugh

The Gold Dart is just how i like to see em, its not trying to hide stuff, but it still will be hiding stuff cos its a old banger....................................

The Blue Demon is pretty much perfect underneath, rockers,floors,bulkheads are pretty much spot on, which equates to a completely solid driving motor car


rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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P5BNij said:
I agree, new paint and whatever's underneath the existing paint, and the interior needs some work too. Nice looking compact little car aside from the bumpers which look too big for it. I like the roofline at the back!

This '67 Barracuda has been for sale for quite a while but has great history from new, would fit my garage, I'd definitely go for it if I could afford it....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1111870

Just found it on youtube....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJlAy2eM8s



Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 17:19


ETA : bugger, it's already sold!!

Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 17:40
Lock down lifted, lovely Spring weather, pent up frustrated buyers , a recipe for any nice sensibly priced car

to sell, don't know it's a flash in the pan or will continue. Think the bargains where a couple of months ago

in the dark days of winter.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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roscobbc said:
newsatten said:
rat rod said:
With your new shop waiting for you a couple of weekends should sort it ,Is that the guy from Essex again.

Not Mustang related but my mate had a look at the Gallardo and we got spark but no petrol, has 2 fuel pumps and

says unlikely both pumps would go together so at least one bank should run, any ideas ? confused
So hard to say, as all these things are interconnected , some times the pump/s dont run till your crank the motor, pump relays, pump shut off,
piss--- in the wind really laugh
I remember once i had the door panel off a Porsche to change a broken mirror, i removed the mirror a few minutes later i had to move the car for some reason, no Throttle ! would only move in limp mode , Dark Magic laugh

Some form of sensor (that has failed, disconnected or been subject to corrosion and gone open circuit) connected to fuel pump circuit preventing a 'read' signal?
Thanks newsatton and rosco for your input, think your on the right lines, going to get a really good car electrician to look at it next week,

Been using him for years, again great on older cars so hope he can sort this out.

Discovered there's a fuel cut off valve at the rear of the car which my have stuck or could well be something to do with the immobiliser

as this has a fuel valve as part of it and prone to play up when getting to this age.

It's got to go when sorted as my wish list is building up and getting pissed missing cars as everything i fancy seems to sell quickly.



Edited by rat rod on Sunday 18th April 01:22

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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P5BNij said:
rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
Not sure if this guy is being ambitious or just plain greedy ,

Just found the Challenger on the HH Auction results page, It was sold on the 24th March for £28,710 with commission

Now asking £59,500 , yikes I suppose if you don't ask you don't get ,

I can't find it now but you posted a link to a 68 Thunderbird in white a while ago that from memory was around £18,950 .

It's still on E-Bay for £17,500 was sold on the same day at HH as the the Challenger for £10,710 with commission,

Good mark up on the T/bird but crazy one on the Challenger, right result if he pulls it off.

Think with the difference in the retail internet prices compared to trade auction prices might be worth taking a punt

even if you can't drive them, Apart from Mustangs generally auction buyers shy away from yanks must preferring

MG B's Mini Coopers and stuff like that so could use that to your advantage just got to have big balls and a lot of luck. scratchchin

If one or two problems at least you got some margin to spend a few bob on it ,

Would link the auction results if i knew how to save me writing all this out. rolleyes




Edited by rat rod on Saturday 17th April 09:48
Second attempt at posting this as my PC is going full on 'HAL 9000' on me!!

Yes it was the white T-Bird I put up RR.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Thunderbird-1968-s... I still really fancy something like this but the garage problem rears its head as ever and puts the mockers on it. With hindsight I wish I'd gone with our original plan ('plan A') back in 2013 and had the garage floor built on the same ground level as the access lane at the bottom of the garden, this would have given us another three or four feet in length, but for whatever reason (I forget what it was now) we had it placed on a slightly raised concrete base with a slope between it and the double gates we installed. When I ordered the garage I only had the Cooper S and my 1970 Rover P5B Coupe and thought the 17ft internal depth would be plenty. 'Plan B' was to place the garage facing 90 degrees the other way with access at the far end of the plot allowing for a building at least 25ft long and about 18ft wide. First world problem and all that but it's my own fault, as usual! To demolish what we have now, dig out the concrete floor and start all over again would cost a fair chunk, leaving me less to spend on the actual car that will go in it.

My fantasy yank fleet in a fantasy sized workshop big enough to house all of them : '65 Buick Riviera, '66 Olds Toronado, '66 Impala SS two door hardtop, '69 Barracuda two door hardtop with flower power 'mod top', '68 or '69 Charger, '70 Challenger, '66 Dodge Coronet two door, '69 Plymouth Fury two door, '67 or '68 Mustang fastback in a non 'Bullitt' pastel colour with factory wheel trims etc, '67 Ford Galaxie 500 two door fastback, '68 to '72 chrome bumper Corvette, '67 Mercury Cougar.... all personal choices with no regard to future values, I just like them for what they are.

The reality is whatever will actually fit my measly double garage and can be driven in and out without scraping the paint off the sides : Mustang, Cougar, Firebird, Camaro, Corvette or Corvair and possibly one or two others I'm not aware of (?).




Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 14:33
With a £30K mark up on that Challenger think anyone could get a huge discount and he still will have a result,

Wouldn't be to bad if the car was desirable like the 6 pack 440 RT in Silverstones auction,

Can just about see the value in that car,

Stay focused , we have long cold damp winters so whatever you buy has to fit your garage ,doesn't matter if it only

just fits in, your get used to parking it in there after all if you can drive a locomotive i'm sure you can drive anything.

How on earth did you get into Mini's , one extreme to the other.

Don't even think about storage elsewhere while you got your own garage , that's how i got the problems i've had

on the last two cars because it's to much effort especially in the winter to go and fiddle with the cars or take them out,

Playing with them is part of the fun not just driving them. Something will turn up but the way the cars are selling at the moment looks like you

will have to be willing to travel for the right car and be quick with a decision otherwise you could loose it.



Edited by rat rod on Saturday 17th April 21:37

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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My thoughts exactly, even though the storage place I mentioned is just outside the town I want whatever I buy to be tucked up in my own garage. Trying to stay focused, lots of distractions that happen to be just over 17ft in length though wink

Minis - always loved them since I was a nipper, my first car was a Mini, and the second, third, fourth, fifth etc. Had fifteen of the little buggers now and that’s enough I think.

I’ll keep looking whilst building up the pot a bit more...... if the Lambo goes which yank(s) are you going for next....?

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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P5BNij said:
My thoughts exactly, even though the storage place I mentioned is just outside the town I want whatever I buy to be tucked up in my own garage. Trying to stay focused, lots of distractions that happen to be just over 17ft in length though wink

Minis - always loved them since I was a nipper, my first car was a Mini, and the second, third, fourth, fifth etc. Had fifteen of the little buggers now and that’s enough I think.

I’ll keep looking whilst building up the pot a bit more...... if the Lambo goes which yank(s) are you going for next....?
Sounds like you need a 2 yanks, muscle and a cruiser because no matter what you buy you will be looking over your shoulder

at what you didn't buy. Start with the muscle as that will fit your garage, time to relax until you build the new extra long one

to accommodate the cruiser , easy job done.

For me it could be anything as the list is so long, C1, C2, even a Z06 C6 , Cuda /Challenger 65/66 Mustang fastback but they are over

priced at the moment, 59 Caddy Coupe, 55/57 2 dr Belair , just like your list it goes on forever . going backwards as had most of them , my

perfect pair was a 70 T/A ,M22 box, stroked 455 and a 59 El Camino

with air ride, Torque Thrusts and steels, But with a impatient tax man and with others cars needed buying i sold them both.

Did manage to buy the El Camino back a couple of years later and kept it for another 3 years ,It's in Paris now so not much

chance of getting it back the 3rd time. Did spot the T/A in Billing one year, haven't seen it since,






Edited by rat rod on Sunday 18th April 00:22

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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[quote=newsatten]laugh
74' Dart near me has come back on sale, going to roll down and have a look, its a factory V8 318, 5 bolt wheels etc,
being a 74 means it will have huge ugly bumpers, but worth a look as its on me door step laugh[/quote
Did you get around to seeing the Dart yet, Prefer the Demon ,has a little more shape to it

but i suppose that's not local to you.

Now i know i got spark on the car i can now chase petrol supply , Haven't tested the relays yet and need to test this petrol cut off valve

maybe a easier job than pulling all the immobiliser to pieces , You lot will be as pleased as i will be when i get it going then you won't have to

listen to me whittling on about it anymore.moan



Edited by rat rod on Sunday 18th April 09:28

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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There’s a red ‘68 383 Charger just appeared on FB, he’s asking £38k firm, no offers. Pictures are terrible tho, can’t see anything of it.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

66 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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P5BNij said:
The reality is whatever will actually fit my measly double garage and can be driven in and out without scraping the paint off the sides : Mustang, Cougar, Firebird, Camaro, Corvette or Corvair and possibly one or two others I'm not aware of (?).

Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 14:33
Would you consider an AMX?

This example is stateside, looks peachy and seems like it needs nothing doing

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/amc/am...

The Javelin and AMX are two of my favourites and AMC muscle is often criminally overlooked.

SRT Hellcat

7,030 posts

217 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Morning all.
I popped round to see a mate of mine yesterday afternoon for a long chat sitting outside in the sun.
He owns 6 Lamborghini's.
I mentioned your issue and he said speak to Raj at Super Car Service.
His number is 02037015756
I forgot about him. Another mate with a Murcielago has used him.
Very good on the newer stuff and electronics.
Let me know how you get on

roscobbc

3,351 posts

242 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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emperorburger said:
P5BNij said:
The reality is whatever will actually fit my measly double garage and can be driven in and out without scraping the paint off the sides : Mustang, Cougar, Firebird, Camaro, Corvette or Corvair and possibly one or two others I'm not aware of (?).

Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 17th April 14:33
Would you consider an AMX?

This example is stateside, looks peachy and seems like it needs nothing doing

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/amc/am...

The Javelin and AMX are two of my favourites and AMC muscle is often criminally overlooked.
Nicely picked-up feature in Hemmings Emperor
Even AMX and Javelins are becoming unapproachable pricewise - although I guess one would stand a far better chance of getting one of these at a more reasonable price than perhaps most other pony sized muscle cars - for far too long they have been looked down on by enthusiasts. Hop-up parts situation is far better than it used to be, although I'll guess that body and trim parts might be difficult. My '68 Javelin back in the day (mid 70's) Looks like its on 'stilts' now with the period Woolferace/American Racing wheels and General Grabber tyres.........(and didn't they 'grab'........every single stone of pebble in the road.......progress was often accompanied by a crescendo of 'clicking' sounds - really, really irritating!)

Always thought that the later (early 70's) Javelin AMX with the full size body (rather that abreviated early AMX) with its 'humped' front fenders (ah la C3 vette) was a greatly overlooked car.




Edited by roscobbc on Sunday 18th April 10:27

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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SRT Hellcat said:
Morning all.
I popped round to see a mate of mine yesterday afternoon for a long chat sitting outside in the sun.
He owns 6 Lamborghini's.
I mentioned your issue and he said speak to Raj at Super Car Service.
His number is 02037015756
I forgot about him. Another mate with a Murcielago has used him.
Very good on the newer stuff and electronics.
Let me know how you get on
Some people are just plain greedy,

That's exactly the sort of person i need to speak to someone who doesn't mind modern electrics

everybody i know are more old skool and not really interested in the later stuff,who can blame them,

Had some older Lambo's in the past and they have never been easy but being only nuts and bolts so i knew

people who where happy to work on them.

Mike doesn't even want to work on Aventadors and sends customers elsewhere,

Interesting you got me started with Daimlers and MK10's ,noticed a Majestic Major going for auction

with HH in May ,same colour as my old one ,could be the same car as i got no idea what the reg was

also there's a article in the latest edition of Classic and Sports Car comparing a MK10 with another car of the same era

can't remember what now as only had a quick flick though at the super market, my son has banned me from buying anymore car mags

Thanks for Raj's phone number will give him a call tomorrow.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

66 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Your old '68 Javelin looks ace, Rosco thumbup overall, I also prefer the Javelin body style to the earlier AMX, however I think both are really great designs.

It does seem that pricing has steadily crept up, however I still think they are attractively priced compared to the usual suspects from the big three, albeit you will more than likely need to bring one in from the states.