Why so high?

[aeropilot]

roscobbc said:

rev-erend said:

aeropilot said:

rev-erend said:

Very nice.

My mate is after a Hemi for his 67 Dart.

Wrong engine.

He'll want a 2nd generation 426 Hemi for a 67 Dart not a 1950's Chrysler/DeSoto 'hemi' which is what that is in that photo.

And he can just order one brand new in a crate from Mopar Performance anyway, so he doesn't have to look too far!!!

You are right and that is exactly what he will say in about an hour when I see him in the pub.

Sure he can buy a Hemi from Mopar performance or others like Ray Barton but the cost is very high .. minimum 20K and more like 25K+

Good news is the dollar ex rate is1.41 best its been for a while.

But......you'll currently be 'stuffed' with shipping costs

You'd need to plan far enough ahead and do a deal with someone like Russ at R&R and come to a deal with getting it shipped to his shipping agent in the USA, and getting it put into one of his containers that he brings in with other parts. Would be cheaper than the cost of shipping a single engine over, but slower of course.

[LeighW]

newsatten said:

Without getting all techy , check all the compression's the main thing is they are all about the same, say your average is 140 , just divide by 14.5
= about 9-5 to 1 ,
8 to 1 is quite common i believe, old school stuff goes 12 etc....................... but then fuel becomes an issue.

all about the same is ok! obliviously if they are all 100 youll need to check your wallet!

This formula is just a rough guide , but good enough !

That's a great help, thanks!

[LeighW]

roscobbc said:

rev-erend said:

aeropilot said:

rev-erend said:

Very nice.

My mate is after a Hemi for his 67 Dart.

Wrong engine.

He'll want a 2nd generation 426 Hemi for a 67 Dart not a 1950's Chrysler/DeSoto 'hemi' which is what that is in that photo.

And he can just order one brand new in a crate from Mopar Performance anyway, so he doesn't have to look too far!!!

You are right and that is exactly what he will say in about an hour when I see him in the pub.

Sure he can buy a Hemi from Mopar performance or others like Ray Barton but the cost is very high .. minimum 20K and more like 25K+

Good news is the dollar ex rate is1.41 best its been for a while.

But......you'll currently be 'stuffed' with shipping costs

Of course, you could just buy something with a hemi in it. I'd imagine this goes quite well.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154438140834

[AdeTuono]

roscobbc said:

Whilst on the subject of injection - if you were building-up a hot rod you'd just have to use this........wouldn't you?
http://www.nsra.org.uk/newforum/showthread.php?808...

Sort of related; a mate of mine is putting this TVR lump into a Mk2 Jag. Old-skool velocity stacks are an unbeatable look.

[newsatten]

Thats the Nuts! Fabulous Engine, Perhaps just to Race for the Majority of Numpties that brought Tuscan's etc,
A good mate of mine had a Factory lightweight Red Rose, Tweeked to 350HP, A ZZR with 4 wheels, Oh gawd that feeling is coming back

[rat rod]

LeighW said:

Although muscle cars are more my thing, I do think the 37 Cord is a fine looking motor.



https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1937-cord...

While the wife was watching her usual pap on the TV last night, I spent a while with a torch trying to find the numbers on my 350 small block, so that I can see where it originated. After looking up the numbers, I kind of wish I hadn't, turns out it looks to have started life in a '79 Chevy C30.

I'm assuming it's been rebuilt at some point, as a '79 truck would probably have been to the moon and back, and my engine is sweet as a nut, no smoke at all from cold, runs smooth, oil and coolant are the colours they should be etc, so I'm hoping it's half decent. It has long tube headers, Edelbrock 1406 600cfm carb, Edelbrock intake, so who knows how much power it's putting out. I've not really given it much welly yet, but I did notice that the TH350 changes up into 3rd at 3000rpm even under full throttle! Going to have a go with the B&M ratchet shifter at the weekend now I've fathomed out how it works...

Sold for £65K , bargain price for a car of the Hollywood star's, can image the likes of Clark Gable cruising down Wilshire Boulevard .

Just about cover 2/3 of the invoices, The same price that's being asked for a nice but not concours Mustang Fastback.

must make this work of art sooooooo under priced, Not so easy as a Mustang for parts supply and maintenance

l know but well worth the effort, Imagine driving this to "Rally of the Giants". Wow

Andy Saunders dad had a creamy yellow convertible and got sold at Bonhams when he passed away.

Can't remember the exact figure but it was around £150K mark making this one sound even cheaper still.

[newsatten]

LeighW said:

roscobbc said:

rev-erend said:

aeropilot said:

rev-erend said:

Very nice.

My mate is after a Hemi for his 67 Dart.

Wrong engine.

He'll want a 2nd generation 426 Hemi for a 67 Dart not a 1950's Chrysler/DeSoto 'hemi' which is what that is in that photo.

And he can just order one brand new in a crate from Mopar Performance anyway, so he doesn't have to look too far!!!

You are right and that is exactly what he will say in about an hour when I see him in the pub.

Sure he can buy a Hemi from Mopar performance or others like Ray Barton but the cost is very high .. minimum 20K and more like 25K+

Good news is the dollar ex rate is1.41 best its been for a while.

But......you'll currently be 'stuffed' with shipping costs

Of course, you could just buy something with a hemi in it. I'd imagine this goes quite well.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154438140834

Dave B has a 472 Street Hemi, fully built for sale on the MMA site........................................................

[roscobbc]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393312329213?hash=item5...

A run of 8 brand new Bristols at £495,000 + vat. Kinda makes everything we've seen and spoken about over the last few weeks seem really insignificant in terms of price doesn't it? - even if you could, should you?, would you?

Edited by roscobbc on Wednesday 12th May 23:21

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393312329213?hash=item5...

A run of 8 brand new Bristols at £495,000 + vat. Kinda makes everything we've seen and spoken about over the last few weeks seem really insignificant in terms of price doesn't it? - even if you could, should you?, would you?

Edited by roscobbc on Wednesday 12th May 23:21

Bristols didn't sell when they where £49K so who thought of that one ,

The only thing that will do is possibly increase the value of the Bristols currently for sale,

The Bristol market is tiny having a very niche market place, Very strong following from the faithful few,

Always thought someone like a playwright or art dealer should be driving them preferably with a cravat and a cigarette holder

sort of Terry Thomas, Leslie Phillips type,

My very posh mate has sold them for years,after coming out of the Guards he worked for Anthony Crook in the Kensington Showroom

,then left to sell Ferrari's at Maranello's, Egham,that's where i met him,after the Colonel who owned Maranello's died

he went back to Bristol Cars as he couldn't get on with the new corporate owners.

The Kensington Showroom was like time stood still ,reminded me of " Are you being served" and Anthony Crook reminded me

of Mr Grace ,bought three cars while my mate was there but not one Bristol,they where inclined to keep them no matter how

bad they were and send them back to the factory and restore them, Sad they have followed Jensen and have finally gone,or have they??

My mate now has his own garage near Warminster and specialises in just Bristols putting his knowledge to good use,

He always advertises in Car & Classic and his cars look good value compared to all the other high end stuff.,

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 13th May 00:47

[roscobbc]

Always had a fancy for a Bristol - and much like the same fancy for a new Harley always found something that just put me off even considering laying out the money or finance......Harleys it was the fact that you needed to spend a similar amount of money to the purchase price to get them as you wanted - with a Bristol if was some of the glaringly bad low rent trim items on certain years - like silver painted bumpers, XJ6 steel wheels, Vauxhall Senator rear lights, braided leather pull straps on the glove box that wouldn't have looked out of place on a hippy birds shoulder bag and so on........

[aeropilot]

roscobbc said:

Always had a fancy for a Bristol - and much like the same fancy for a new Harley always found something that just put me off even considering laying out the money or finance......Harleys it was the fact that you needed to spend a similar amount of money to the purchase price to get them as you wanted ..

Been there, done that........twice

The annoying thing was I talked myself out of getting the one I wanted the first time, and when I finally part-ex'd for what I should have bought the first time around, within 2 years, it was up for sale, as I was forced to quit riding bikes on medical grounds......lost my shirt twice over, especially the second time. Hey ho.

[rev-erend]

newsatten said:

Dave B has a 472 Street Hemi, fully built for sale on the MMA site........................................................

Do you have a link to the site or the ad?

[aeropilot]

rev-erend said:

newsatten said:

Dave B has a 472 Street Hemi, fully built for sale on the MMA site........................................................

Do you have a link to the site or the ad?

https://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&...

[newsatten]

Cheers! ive absolutely no idea how to do that trick! ............................

Just had a thought, depending on what motor your mate has in the Dart now, Dave will probably take it in PX, Even late smog Motor home motors are very sort after,

Edited by newsatten on Thursday 13th May 09:47

[newsatten]

and yes RR Bristol's and acquired taste, personally ive not over impressed, funny looking things when compared to the Flair of the Italians

Back to yanks

[rev-erend]

aeropilot said:

https://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&...

Thanks

[rat rod]

newsatten said:

and yes RR Bristol's and acquired taste, personally ive not over impressed, funny looking things when compared to the Flair of the Italians

Back to yanks

Quite like the late 40's/ mid 50's Bristols , a little art deco but after that a box with a Mopar lump came to mind,

Sorry rosco

[aeropilot]

The problem with big Bristols is you really need a pair of them to be any fun.........

[roscobbc]

And you need plenty of structured support...........

[roscobbc]

Fella's the conclusion I've come to is that that beautiful Italinate and other European bodywork is wonderful to look at - the mechanics and structure are also superb - but the implications of 'keeping' them, the risk of being damaged out on the street and the overall cost of owning them makes the Yank stuff so sensible. We almost have the style, certainly have the performance (if in a straight line) with our USA stuff and its certainly an alternative to the limited UK selection of classic vehicles (limited in terms of cars with relatively small and perhaps comparitively 'puny' motive power plants).........however the 'other' attraction of Claudia, Gina, Sophia and a fair few other Italian beauties still remains - although perhaps best remaining historical what with all the modern silicon enhanced, dead-pan expression, collagen filled lips and Marx Bros' eyebrow modern 'equivalents' (and thats just the 'geezers'!)