Colour change

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Mark Stevens

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164 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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What would be the effect on value when changing the original colour of a car?

I have a friend who is struggling to find a dark coloured 964 turbo & is considering buying a red one & having a full bare metal respray. He’s thinking long term effect.

Regards

Edited by Mark Stevens on Wednesday 29th March 15:27

Koln-RS

3,864 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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IMO unless it was done by Porsche Reading it would devalue the car quite significantly - and even then it would be stigmatised by some people.
The cost would be considerable, and not even sure if they are still doing this kind of work as their resources are stretched.
May be possible at the Factory.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Bought it like:



took to LogicVPC




peelable paint. Its paint you can polish and has no orange peel effect.
Take it off to reveal unmarked original colour for resale

best of both worlds?...I think so.

Schuey_911

817 posts

72 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Is what I was going to suggest too. A good quality wrap or peelable paint. However, I'm aware the latter option can be very expensive!

That looks like Oak Green? Looks stunning smile

jh001

615 posts

177 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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A full wrap would be a far more cost effective option.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Schuey_911 said:
Is what I was going to suggest too. A good quality wrap or peelable paint. However, I'm aware the latter option can be very expensive!

That looks like Oak Green? Looks stunning smile
it is, thanks
just the body was circa 7 +vat
I had wheels, graphics and few other bits and bobs done too.
Not cheap, I'm hoping I've got what I paid for though...WITH the bonus that original paint stays tip top underneath when the day comes to move it on (I'm not moving it on)
It's essentially a PPF aswell, so man-maths/justification was easy biggrin

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

52 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Quickmoose said:
peelable paint. Its paint you can polish and has no orange peel effect.
Take it off to reveal unmarked original colour for resale

best of both worlds?...I think so.
Who did this for you and was it much more expensive than a traditional paint job?

I’m looking at a car atm but the colour is a major drawback for me. I looked into having it wrapped but decided against it.

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

52 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Going back to the OP, if the car is a keeper then it wouldn’t matter. People can be funny about originality even if the car wasn’t a desirable colour. Personally it wouldn’t bother me if it was done perfectly.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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P. ONeill said:
Going back to the OP, if the car is a keeper then it wouldn’t matter. People can be funny about originality even if the car wasn’t a desirable colour. Personally it wouldn’t bother me if it was done perfectly.
this is also true.... buy the car for you, do what YOU want to it.

Schuey_911

817 posts

72 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Quickmoose said:
Schuey_911 said:
Is what I was going to suggest too. A good quality wrap or peelable paint. However, I'm aware the latter option can be very expensive!

That looks like Oak Green? Looks stunning smile
it is, thanks
just the body was circa 7 +vat
I had wheels, graphics and few other bits and bobs done too.
Not cheap, I'm hoping I've got what I paid for though...WITH the bonus that original paint stays tip top underneath when the day comes to move it on (I'm not moving it on)
It's essentially a PPF aswell, so man-maths/justification was easy biggrin
Excellent. Was it done by the same people that do Mr JWW's cars? I think he has invested in the business now if I recall...

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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yep. thumbup


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Schuey_911

817 posts

72 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Very good and clearly they do it properly. smile

I have a soft spot for Oak Green Metallic, was the colour of my first car back in the day, a Mk2 Golf GTI 16v Big Bumper! Damn, wish I still had it. cry

Edited by Schuey_911 on Wednesday 29th March 13:17

Snowy999

266 posts

65 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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How long does this peelable paint last - longer than a wrap? My wrap is 3 years in and is OK (dark metallic blue over white) but I plan to redo this winter. If your friend goes for a wrap then i suggest that you get it ppf's over the top or, if you get a big stone ship the old colour can be seen.....

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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It's guaranteed for 5yrs, but if you believe the hype...it's stronger than that... with a liquid ppf underneath and elastatizer in the paint, small scuffs 'heal' with added heat... whilst chips are few and can be treated like paint...with chip repair pen/paint

Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Mark Stevens said:
What would be the effect on value when changing the original colour of a car?

I have a friend who is struggling to find a dark coloured 964 turbo & is considering buying a red one & having a full bare metal respray. He’s thinking long term effect.

Regards

Edited by Mark Stevens on Wednesday 29th March 15:27
Values of a car like a 964 Turbo vary massively depending on condition/history etc If he’s buying a car which is say higher mileage and the paintwork needs attention it will have much less impact than if its an original car in great condition/history. if it’s the latter it would be financial suicide.

Personally I wouldn’t have a problem with buying a car and changing the colour if that was my dream car/keeper.

Mark Stevens

Original Poster:

164 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I appreciate you all taking the time to reply, cheers.

Applause

225 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Porsche Reading - Their special operations department would paint the car, if you want a poc let me know.

They have previous done this on a new 991 GT3 & GT2 RS, and while the 64 is a different proposition, it didn't hurt the values of the aforementioned.

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Really depends on the state of your 964 turbo as to whether it's financially worthwhile.

If it's a keeper why not. But make sure you 'document everything' and a thread on the process would add to the viability of the change.

Personally I'd do a paint change vs a wrap on a keeper.

The big question is which colour would add the most value to the change?

964 turbo famous for Bad Boys black, look fabulous in cobalt blue or speed yellow.











I'd keep it a period 964 colour and the 964 paint codes list is below:



Edited by g7jhp on Thursday 30th March 14:00

Orangecurry

7,426 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Will your friend please buy this, and then take off all the tat. Please.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202005209...

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

52 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Orangecurry said:
Will your friend please buy this, and then take off all the tat. Please.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202005209...
That’s a hell of a lot of tat.