Has anyone intentionally purchased a fake watch?

Has anyone intentionally purchased a fake watch?

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Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Hoofy said:
Miguel Alvarez said:
I just remembered I bought a full "gold" Krug Baumen when I was younger. Now that I am ashamed of
hehe

watches2u keep giving them away as prizes. Can't think why.
Lol.



alfaman

6,416 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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traffman said:
I own a gen Breitling Aero and a Omega smp , however i never wear my watches too much as i am worried about clanging them off a hard object.

I would love to own a fake Rolex , so when i am in Dubai in four weeks i am going looking . Cannot remember the name of the market though.... anyone?
Karama market.

You can also find some shops in the side streets of the old port area [popular at night / good for presents and local ethnic stuff]

emicen

8,558 posts

217 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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whoami said:
You bought watches and don't wear them?
Its a fascinating concept. I got this chat last year when getting a new battery in my watch, apparently its a dress watch and you shouldnt use it every day.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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whoami said:
You bought watches and don't wear them?
I have plenty of those. nuts

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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emicen said:
whoami said:
You bought watches and don't wear them?
Its a fascinating concept. I got this chat last year when getting a new battery in my watch, apparently its a dress watch and you shouldnt use it every day.
A battery? In a watch?

wink

TiffsStuntDouble

46 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Had a fake Tag Carrera a few years back. Cost $200-ish. It worked good for a year, then it started getting stuck every now and then, so I had it serviced ($100) and it ran like a dream thereafter. Eventually sold it (as a fake) for a profit.

I didn't buy it to look richer than I am. I bought it because I liked the style and couldn't afford the real thing. If there were more good-looking classic-style genuine watches in my price range then I would have bought one of them instead, but sadly the options are limited, and I own or have owned all the ones that appeal to me.

I don't feel like I've ripped off Tag Heuer. They wouldn't have got my money in the first place, because they've priced their products well out of my reach. (Unless I'm mistaken, the price of the Carrera has risen much faster than inflation over recent years, too.)

Oh, and I swear people were more impressed by the watch when they discovered it was a fake than when they thought it was genuine...

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Hoofy said:
Actually, if the fake has an ETA movement, it's probably as good as a real one. hehe
Two Rolex Explorer 114270s- well one and a stinking fake. Not the most difficult piece to replicate I'm sure you'll agree.

The fake has an ETA movement in it and is seems to be as accurate as the genuine piece.

The fake is the same weight, has the same build quality, appears to be waterproof and cost about 80 quid.

The genuine was 2300 quid.

I don't support the sale of fake watches in any way but people saying that they are total ste are poorly informed. Sorry in advance for the poor picture- I have no idea how to work this GF1 that's hanging around.








Edited by Motorrad on Tuesday 2nd October 15:33


Edited by Motorrad on Tuesday 2nd October 15:34

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Motorrad said:
I don't support the sale of fake watches in any way but people saying that they are total ste are poorly informed.
Mmm. What is daft is that if the creator of the fake had made their own branded version with a few minor tweaks, they'd probably sell just as many and be able to shift it for maybe £300. I don't understand why they don't do this if they have the capability to make decent watches.

Slyjoe

1,500 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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I found a picture of a moody one, looks very good to me.
Whad'ya think?




Fake



Real.

To be honest, I dont know if its supposed to be the same model or not.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Look at the crown.......I'm sure there are more accurate, higher quality fakes out there. Question is why would you want one?

Slyjoe

1,500 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Actually, I wouldn't, however I've just seen this which sold for £1600 - so not entirely out of reach.




Edited by Slyjoe on Tuesday 2nd October 19:44

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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The Planet Ocean is a nice watch, are you looking at 42 or 45mm?

I've had a few and the 45mm was a massive watch-bigger than my U1 which is plenty big even on my fat wrists.

Slyjoe

1,500 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Motorrad said:
The Planet Ocean is a nice watch, are you looking at 42 or 45mm?

I've had a few and the 45mm was a massive watch-bigger than my U1 which is plenty big even on my fat wrists.
I think the 42mm would be aplenty. My current watch is 40mm and a wrist filler that wont fit under some shirt cuffs comfortably.


HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

181 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Hoofy said:
Mmm. What is daft is that if the creator of the fake had made their own branded version with a few minor tweaks, they'd probably sell just as many and be able to shift it for maybe £300. I don't understand why they don't do this if they have the capability to make decent watches.
I would imagine the market for a £300 decently made automatic is far smaller than the aspirational market of people who want a Rolex but can't afford it.

In fact if you look on your average high street, what have you got? A lot of quartz stuff around £100-150 then you go up to £800-1000 for a TAG or something. There can't be a market for mid-range watches or there would be someone filling that niche.

Slyjoe

1,500 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Ok then, 3 watches, basically look the same from a distance to the casual observer, any watch freak would know the difference, vast price difference... why not just buy a Rolex rep?



I do have the seiko, which I would love to mod in this way, purely as I love the look of the "original", The Steinhart is not a cheap watch either.
Just here for discussion..., and to see what value people put on price, value and longevity





Edited by Slyjoe on Friday 5th October 00:02

tertius

6,838 posts

229 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Slyjoe said:
Ok then, 3 watches, basically look the same from a distance to the casual observer, any watch freak would know the difference, vast price difference... why not just buy a Rolex rep?



I do have the seiko, which I would love to mod in this way, purely as I love the look of the "original", The Steinhart is not a cheap watch either.
Just here for discussion..., and to see what value people put on price, value and longevity
Personally I wouldn't buy any of them as I think they are all 'orrible ... wink

And every one of them has my personal pet hate of a contrasting date wheel, which I think can make any watch look cheap.

Blackpuddin

16,409 posts

204 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Slyjoe said:
Ok then, 3 watches, basically look the same from a distance to the casual observer, any watch freak would know the difference, vast price difference... why not just buy a Rolex rep?



I do have the seiko, which I would love to mod in this way, purely as I love the look of the "original", The Steinhart is not a cheap watch either.
Just here for discussion..., and to see what value people put on price, value and longevity
Edited by Slyjoe on Friday 5th October 00:02
This is the aspect that interests me. How do Messrs Steinhart and Seiko get away with what I would have thought was a clear case of 'passing off'? They've put their own brand names on there, but in every other respect they are pretty much mirror copies of the Rolex.
In the motor industry there was a lot of hopping up and down when Chinese car companies turned out homages/replicas/whatever you want to call them of Rolls-Royces, Jaguars etc. Unlike these Steinhart and Seiko watches, those 'copies' were in no way exact, but there was still a lot of outrage. In the music biz you only have to prove a vague connection, a chord sequence here or there, to win your case against a copycat song producer. Why is the watch business different?

Dempsey1971

383 posts

169 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
This is the aspect that interests me. How do Messrs Steinhart and Seiko get away with what I would have thought was a clear case of 'passing off'? They've put their own brand names on there, but in every other respect they are pretty much mirror copies of the Rolex.
In the motor industry there was a lot of hopping up and down when Chinese car companies turned out homages/replicas/whatever you want to call them of Rolls-Royces, Jaguars etc. Unlike these Steinhart and Seiko watches, those 'copies' were in no way exact, but there was still a lot of outrage. In the music biz you only have to prove a vague connection, a chord sequence here or there, to win your case against a copycat song producer. Why is the watch business different?
Because, and this is all hush hush you understand, the High end manufacturers probably wouldn't sell as many watches if people didn't try out a copy / homage first rather than blow 5k on a watch you may not like 'on your wrist' after 2 months.

I know a few people who have bought reps to try out the look and size and 'eareability' of the brand before commiting what is for them a large chunk of money. Without this oppurtunity, they wouldn't have blown the cash.

whoami

13,151 posts

239 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Dempsey1971 said:
Because, and this is all hush hush you understand, the High end manufacturers probably wouldn't sell as many watches if people didn't try out a copy / homage first rather than blow 5k on a watch you may not like 'on your wrist' after 2 months.
rofl

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

208 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Dempsey1971 said:
Blackpuddin said:
This is the aspect that interests me. How do Messrs Steinhart and Seiko get away with what I would have thought was a clear case of 'passing off'? They've put their own brand names on there, but in every other respect they are pretty much mirror copies of the Rolex.
In the motor industry there was a lot of hopping up and down when Chinese car companies turned out homages/replicas/whatever you want to call them of Rolls-Royces, Jaguars etc. Unlike these Steinhart and Seiko watches, those 'copies' were in no way exact, but there was still a lot of outrage. In the music biz you only have to prove a vague connection, a chord sequence here or there, to win your case against a copycat song producer. Why is the watch business different?
Because, and this is all hush hush you understand, the High end manufacturers probably wouldn't sell as many watches if people didn't try out a copy / homage first rather than blow 5k on a watch you may not like 'on your wrist' after 2 months.

I know a few people who have bought reps to try out the look and size and 'eareability' of the brand before commiting what is for them a large chunk of money. Without this oppurtunity, they wouldn't have blown the cash.
Well, it's an interesting theory... certainly more applicable to the Steinhart-type watches than the chinese 'pure fakes'.