Trying to to buy a "mega-watch". Budget £40,000. Help!
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Long time “lurker” and have finally signed up, so hello to all.
I have decided to take a massive, wristwatch sized plunge.
I have a budget of a maximum of £40,000.
I am hoping to spend less but would go to £40,000 for an exceptional piece.
My criteria are:
1. Annual or perpetual calendar.
2. Moon phase would be a bonus.
3. Preferably Patek (my first choice), Audemars, Vacheron or A Lange & Sohn.
4. The piece is expected to hold its value.
Of course, happy to be educated on any other watches or features that I have excluded through ignorance.
Please do include links and pictures. Advice on who to buy from, prices and things to look out for would be very welcome.
I can completely appreciate that my point (4) involves crystal-balling, but my understanding is that generally speaking, an annual or perpetual calendar from one of the above, is more likely that most watches to hold its value.
I hope that my first thread is one that becomes very active and I will be happy to post what I buy, or update as I go through the process of finding the watch.
I have decided to take a massive, wristwatch sized plunge.
I have a budget of a maximum of £40,000.
I am hoping to spend less but would go to £40,000 for an exceptional piece.
My criteria are:
1. Annual or perpetual calendar.
2. Moon phase would be a bonus.
3. Preferably Patek (my first choice), Audemars, Vacheron or A Lange & Sohn.
4. The piece is expected to hold its value.
Of course, happy to be educated on any other watches or features that I have excluded through ignorance.
Please do include links and pictures. Advice on who to buy from, prices and things to look out for would be very welcome.
I can completely appreciate that my point (4) involves crystal-balling, but my understanding is that generally speaking, an annual or perpetual calendar from one of the above, is more likely that most watches to hold its value.
I hope that my first thread is one that becomes very active and I will be happy to post what I buy, or update as I go through the process of finding the watch.
Once you've had a few suggestions you are happy with speak to Dom at Hackett watches:
www.hackettwatches.com
He has helped out many a PH'er over the years and is a Gent to deal with.
www.hackettwatches.com
He has helped out many a PH'er over the years and is a Gent to deal with.
Not keen on gold/white but: http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/A.%20Lange%20and%20So...
Slightly above budget.
Slightly above budget.
schmunk said:
Is it the school holidays?
This is the watches subforum so you will be busy commenting on every single thread asking for advice to mention your phone as a replacement for a watch.- look at phone, as I haven't worn a watch it about 10 years**
Edited by Hoofy on Monday 31st July 14:58
Hoofy said:
Not keen on gold/white but: http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/A.%20Lange%20and%20So...
Thank you Hoofy. That is a bit of a strong watch! However, thank you for the thought.schmunk said:
Is it the school holidays?
- look at phone, as I haven't worn a watch it about 10 years**
Hoofy said:
This is the watches subforum so you will be busy commenting on every single thread asking for advice to mention your phone as a replacement for a watch.
Hoovy, I think schmunk was trying to suggest that this is a hoax thread. Anyway, hope the rest of the forum is more helpful than this chap. Perhaps his forum name should have been schmuck? I have been focusing my attention on Patek more than any other watchmaker at this point, and I have been very drawn to the 5905, but that would appear to be somewhat above budget. Picture below.
As a result, I have looked at the 5205 which is a similar concentric circles design and more within the range I would like to spend.
I have also considered a Nautilus 5726, but I have a 90s bi-metal Royal Oak with day-date, so while the Nautilus would blow it out of the water, I already have something comparable by Genta.
Thank you Yex for suggesting DH. I will speak to him once I have narrowed things down to one or two choices.
Edited by CKQC on Monday 31st July 15:15
I'm certainly not averse to JLC in any way, it's just that when it comes to the criteria of holding value, the other 4 seems to be another level up? The Duometre is lovely, but a little too busy in the face for me. For me JLC comes into it's own in the sub-£20,000 category for an understated dress watch.
Please do make mention of anything that comes to mind, even if not on my list!
Please do make mention of anything that comes to mind, even if not on my list!
Always willing to help spend someone else's money
Browsing through Chrono24, spotted this L.Leroy:
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/lleroy/18k-rg-retrograde...
It has similar concentric circle design to the Patek you mentioned earlier in the thread. Here it contains the rather elegant retrograde date function, and a moonphase. Quite an unusual, and stylish, piece.
Browsing through Chrono24, spotted this L.Leroy:
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/lleroy/18k-rg-retrograde...
It has similar concentric circle design to the Patek you mentioned earlier in the thread. Here it contains the rather elegant retrograde date function, and a moonphase. Quite an unusual, and stylish, piece.
That is lovely and retrograde to boot. I haven't come across the manufacturer myself. My knowledge is mostly restricted to the more "famous" watch houses.
Suggestions so far have been right at the £40,000 limit! Let's see a few a little lower is possible!
Any views on a 5140 with a brown dial? Do you think I'd get bored with the colour and wish I'd gone for something more vanilla in time? I've never owned a "fancy" dial. It's about £30,000 - £35,000.
As an aside, are watches actually selling for these prices or are seller taking offers?
Suggestions so far have been right at the £40,000 limit! Let's see a few a little lower is possible!
Any views on a 5140 with a brown dial? Do you think I'd get bored with the colour and wish I'd gone for something more vanilla in time? I've never owned a "fancy" dial. It's about £30,000 - £35,000.
As an aside, are watches actually selling for these prices or are seller taking offers?
Edited by CKQC on Monday 31st July 17:08
CKQC said:
That is lovely and retrograde to boot. I haven't come across the manufacturer myself. My knowledge is mostly restricted to the more "famous" watch houses.
Suggestions so far have been right at the £40,000 limit! Let's see a few a little lower is possible!
Any views on a 5140 with a brown dial? Do you think I'd get bored with the colour and wish I'd gone for something more vanilla in time? I've never owned a "fancy" dial. It's about £30,000 - £35,000.
As an aside, are watches actually selling for these prices or are seller taking offers?
That's nice but not sure about the colour. Can you get that as a chrome/silver/white gold case with black face?Suggestions so far have been right at the £40,000 limit! Let's see a few a little lower is possible!
Any views on a 5140 with a brown dial? Do you think I'd get bored with the colour and wish I'd gone for something more vanilla in time? I've never owned a "fancy" dial. It's about £30,000 - £35,000.
As an aside, are watches actually selling for these prices or are seller taking offers?
Edited by CKQC on Monday 31st July 17:08
Hoofy said:
Not keen on gold/white but: http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/A.%20Lange%20and%20So...
Slightly above budget.
Vey nice, how much are kidneys going for these days Slightly above budget.
Edited by Hoofy on Monday 31st July 14:58
CKQC said:
Long time “lurker” and have finally signed up, so hello to all.
I have decided to take a massive, wristwatch sized plunge.
I have a budget of a maximum of £40,000.
I am hoping to spend less but would go to £40,000 for an exceptional piece.
My criteria are:
1. Annual or perpetual calendar.
2. Moon phase would be a bonus.
3. Preferably Patek (my first choice), Audemars, Vacheron or A Lange & Sohn.
4. The piece is expected to hold its value.
Of course, happy to be educated on any other watches or features that I have excluded through ignorance.
Please do include links and pictures. Advice on who to buy from, prices and things to look out for would be very welcome.
I can completely appreciate that my point (4) involves crystal-balling, but my understanding is that generally speaking, an annual or perpetual calendar from one of the above, is more likely that most watches to hold its value.
I hope that my first thread is one that becomes very active and I will be happy to post what I buy, or update as I go through the process of finding the watch.
Criteria number 4 is incongruent for those last three in criteria number 3 – but don’t take that to mean all Pateks are depreciation-proof, they’re not!I have decided to take a massive, wristwatch sized plunge.
I have a budget of a maximum of £40,000.
I am hoping to spend less but would go to £40,000 for an exceptional piece.
My criteria are:
1. Annual or perpetual calendar.
2. Moon phase would be a bonus.
3. Preferably Patek (my first choice), Audemars, Vacheron or A Lange & Sohn.
4. The piece is expected to hold its value.
Of course, happy to be educated on any other watches or features that I have excluded through ignorance.
Please do include links and pictures. Advice on who to buy from, prices and things to look out for would be very welcome.
I can completely appreciate that my point (4) involves crystal-balling, but my understanding is that generally speaking, an annual or perpetual calendar from one of the above, is more likely that most watches to hold its value.
I hope that my first thread is one that becomes very active and I will be happy to post what I buy, or update as I go through the process of finding the watch.
sad61t said:
Always willing to help spend someone else's money
Browsing through Chrono24, spotted this L.Leroy:
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/lleroy/18k-rg-retrograde...
It has similar concentric circle design to the Patek you mentioned earlier in the thread. Here it contains the rather elegant retrograde date function, and a moonphase. Quite an unusual, and stylish, piece.
Love Leroy (they dropped the L a bit over a year ago), but that Osmior is using the Vaucher Manufacture Fleurier movement, rather than an in-house one.Browsing through Chrono24, spotted this L.Leroy:
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/lleroy/18k-rg-retrograde...
It has similar concentric circle design to the Patek you mentioned earlier in the thread. Here it contains the rather elegant retrograde date function, and a moonphase. Quite an unusual, and stylish, piece.
It’s also an older and discontinued model.
Even with only 300 pieces made, Leroy is not going to be one which holds its money – but then brands like that are not bought by watch aficionados who worry about residual values.
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