Cheap boating - options

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ColinM50

2,631 posts

175 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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20 HP outboard and a RIB. have a look on boats and outboards

AndrewCrown

2,286 posts

114 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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You can have great fun in a RIB or SIB or an aluminium boat
Consult https://www.ribs.co.uk/

For peace of mind, buy new.
But sometimes one finds on ebay terrific Honwaves, Zodiacs or Bombards complete with the right motor and trailer...


Edited by AndrewCrown on Monday 20th November 18:29

Equus

16,883 posts

101 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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If genuinely all you want to do is potter down canals, then it can certainly be done for a few £hundred and you don't even need a 20hp outboard. There's a 4mph speed limit on canals, so even a 2.3hp Honda on a dinghy would be adequate. Personally, I'd think about an electric motor, as they're much quieter.

Do think about launch and recovery: there aren't many slipways on canals. If you get a small enough, light enough dinghy (aluminium can be good), you can manhandle it in and out of the water - I used to do this on the Gloucester and Sharpness Canal - but don't underestimate the weight even of a decent sized inflatable.

All of the above only applies on very sheltered, inland waterways, of course. If you're planning to go deep sea fishing, it's a whole different bag of spaniels.

Huntsman

8,054 posts

250 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Look at a Dell Quay Dory with 10hp.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Not sure if you can just lunch a boat on Canals they have lots of regulations and require Insurance and surveys etc.
Hire a Canal boat for a weekend.

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Suggest you have a read through this before buying a boat.
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways...

spitfire-ian

3,839 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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This is probably the relevant page if you're planning on buying a boat on a trailer, etc

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways...

CubanPete

3,630 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Depending on the frequency you want to do this, don't rule out hiring.

Plenty of 10-14 ft boats out there. 2-6hp outboard will be plenty for inland. As someone has mentioned, electric would be a good option too.


Simpo Two

85,420 posts

265 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Pottering is good!

Do you want a 'day boat' (open or with cabin?) or have the option to sleep on it (ie berths, cooking facillities, WC)?

Trailering will save mooring fees - I'm no expert but think you can trail up to about 23' before you hit too many laws. You will need a licence from the relevant authority though, either the CRT, EA or Broads Authority depending on where you'll be, and insurance, but that's surprisingly cheap.

Condi

17,188 posts

171 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I bought a little boat last year. 16ft, 5hp outboard, on a trailer, cost me £500 delivered. Insurance was £50 for the year, slipway fees are about £6-8 each way, it will use £4-8 of fuel a day depending on how far and fast you go. Great for pub-hopping, and there is no cheaper way to get afloat.

There are canal fees, which differ depending on where you are. I think for small vessels they're only a few quid, although sometimes the local office is shut in which case its impossible to pay.

Edited by Condi on Friday 24th November 19:47

Simpo Two

85,420 posts

265 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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We appear to be talking to thin air, gentlemen...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Apologies, I've had a very busy week at work and this went on the back burner.


Condi said:
I bought a little boat last year. 16ft, 5hp outboard, on a trailer, cost me £500 delivered. Insurance was £50 for the year, slipway fees are about £6-8 each way, it will use £4-8 of fuel a day depending on how far and fast you go. Great for pub-hopping, and there is no cheaper way to get afloat.

There are canal fees, which differ depending on where you are. I think for small vessels they're only a few quid, although sometimes the local office is shut in which case its impossible to pay.

Edited by Condi on Friday 24th November 19:47
I suppose this is the kind of thing that's floating in my head. We'd certainly just want a day boat - it'd only be out in good weather for a nice little cruise somewhere. I would like it on a trailer, simply to avoid having to store it elsewhere.

I keep looking on ebay and whilst there's plenty of cheap options I can't help but think I'm navigating a minefield!

In regards to ribs and so on, whilst I've had a look it seems that they're not markedly 'civilised,' which I realise is the entire point, but at the very least I'd like a couple of seats to sit in!

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
at the very least I'd like a couple of seats to sit in!
Try including 'jockey console' in your search terms - that'll give you two seats, wheel, throttle etc.

ghost83

5,477 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Pity you didn't want a speedboat I have a fletcher 17ft arrowstreak with seating for 4
Quite happily cruising at 4mph or at 30-40mph


I paid 5k for it 4yr ago but accepting sensible offers

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Incidentally OP, there's another alternative to RIBs and they're SIBs - Soft Inflatable Boat instead of rigid. They have the usual tubes, but don't have the rigid hull - they have a series of tough inflatable chambers making up the floor/hull, on top of which aluminium or ply panels fit tightly into position.

You can still get the seats/jockey console etc if you want some refinement. Not that I've owned one though, but I understand you can carry these around in the back of an estate, inflate them once you get to the water, fit the outboard and you're away.

AndrewCrown

2,286 posts

114 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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ReverendCounter said:
Incidentally OP, there's another alternative to RIBs and they're SIBs - Soft Inflatable Boat instead of rigid. They have the usual tubes, but don't have the rigid hull - they have a series of tough inflatable chambers making up the floor/hull, on top of which aluminium or ply panels fit tightly into position.

You can still get the seats/jockey console etc if you want some refinement. Not that I've owned one though, but I understand you can carry these around in the back of an estate, inflate them once you get to the water, fit the outboard and you're away.
(3rd post old chap)

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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AndrewCrown said:
(3rd post old chap)
And posted by someone who knows what he's talking about to boot! getmecoat

mrpoody

14 posts

152 months

Saturday 2nd December 2017
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Ive had several sibs from yam, zed and zodiac futura until this summer.
Can't recommend anything better for good pottering and zipping around .

Easy to use, transport and great fun on the river or sea (to a point) but as soon as you go over 3.5m the engines get heavier, the boat and floors take up more room in the car.
My last two were 4m and with 20 and 30 Hp respectively.

Both flew along and offered lots of room for the family, dog and pic nic but both just too heavy to pack up so stayed inflated all year on a trailer - hence now sold and looking for a rib,!

StanleyT

1,994 posts

79 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Round here where I'm working near the Leeds and Liverpool (guess which end) the latest "portable" canal accessory for "boating" seems to be Jetskis deployed at lock landings......not sure about the 4 mph limit.....

Equus

16,883 posts

101 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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StanleyT said:
Round here where I'm working near the Leeds and Liverpool (guess which end) the latest "portable" canal accessory for "boating" seems to be Jetskis deployed at lock landings......not sure about the 4 mph limit.....
To be fair, if the section just to the east of Canal Road Armley is as shallow as it was when I was a kid, a jetski or a kayak would be the only things with shallow enough draught to get through...