Wrist Check - 2018

Wrist Check - 2018

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bigandclever

13,787 posts

238 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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So said:
What is the finish one those? Some sort of anodising?
https://www.sinn.de/en/TEGIMENT.htm

So

26,278 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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bigandclever said:
So said:
What is the finish one those? Some sort of anodising?
https://www.sinn.de/en/TEGIMENT.htm
And what's the base material in this instance? The blurb implies, but doesn't explicitly state, stainless.

But it is essentially the same as anodising, isn't it.


andy tims

5,578 posts

246 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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So said:
And what's the base material in this instance? The blurb implies, but doesn't explicitly state, stainless.

But it is essentially the same as anodising, isn't it.
The bases material for my Sinn is stainless steel.

I don't believe anodising hardens the metal.

So

26,278 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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andy tims said:
So said:
And what's the base material in this instance? The blurb implies, but doesn't explicitly state, stainless.

But it is essentially the same as anodising, isn't it.
The bases material for my Sinn is stainless steel.

I don't believe anodising hardens the metal.
It provides a hard coating, which is what Tegiment does right?

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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andy tims said:
So said:
And what's the base material in this instance? The blurb implies, but doesn't explicitly state, stainless.

But it is essentially the same as anodising, isn't it.
The bases material for my Sinn is stainless steel.

I don't believe anodising hardens the metal.
Anodising can harden the outer surface - hard anodising is a process that does exactly that.

So

26,278 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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lostkiwi said:
andy tims said:
So said:
And what's the base material in this instance? The blurb implies, but doesn't explicitly state, stainless.

But it is essentially the same as anodising, isn't it.
The bases material for my Sinn is stainless steel.

I don't believe anodising hardens the metal.
Anodising can harden the outer surface - hard anodising is a process that does exactly that.
Yep.

Sinns MIGHT be made of stainless, but usually coatings like that are applied to less robust materials, aren't they?. It's a sort of case hardening with decorative benefits. I'd be interested to know for sure what they are made of though.


PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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So said:
lostkiwi said:
andy tims said:
The bases material for my Sinn is stainless steel.

I don't believe anodising hardens the metal.
Anodising can harden the outer surface - hard anodising is a process that does exactly that.
Yep.

Sinns MIGHT be made of stainless, but usually coatings like that are applied to less robust materials, aren't they?. It's a sort of case hardening with decorative benefits. I'd be interested to know for sure what they are made of though.
http://dannytam.com/watches/index.php/2010/01/06/s...
https://watchotaku.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/serv...

Edited by PJ S on Thursday 26th April 15:11

So

26,278 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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PJ S said:
So said:
lostkiwi said:
andy tims said:
The bases material for my Sinn is stainless steel.

I don't believe anodising hardens the metal.
Anodising can harden the outer surface - hard anodising is a process that does exactly that.
Yep.

Sinns MIGHT be made of stainless, but usually coatings like that are applied to less robust materials, aren't they?. It's a sort of case hardening with decorative benefits. I'd be interested to know for sure what they are made of though.
http://dannytam.com/watches/index.php/2010/01/06/sinn-s-tegiment-and-damasko-s-ice-hardening/
https://watchotaku.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/serv...
Looking at this on my phone so it’s not easy, does it say something in there about Sinns being made of stainless?

andy tims

5,578 posts

246 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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"Tegimenting (Source):

Sinn uses tegimented 316 SS to increase scratch resistance. It forms a shell that is 4 - 5 times harder than the underlying SS. The process is called SAT12 and was patented by an Ohio company called Swagelok in August of 1998. In typical case hardening, SS is heated to near it's melting point, but with tegimentation the temperature is kept much lower. This keeps carbides (carbon bonded with other elements - particularly chromium in this case) from forming. Then they carburize (infuse carbon onto) the surface layer to increase the strength of the steel. The finished product can be dented under extreme cases, but resists scratches better than even ice-hardened steel"

What I do no from personal experience is that this watch is "well ard"
I once bashed it into the stone plinth of a building in London. Looked down expecting to see a damaged watch & all I saw was that the bezel had moved a few notches & there was some stone fragments on the case. The watch was completely unscathed but the stone plinth was slightly chipped.

Sinn also use U-boat grade stainless steel on some non-tegimented watches including the U1

vixen1700

22,902 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Skagen bought yesterday. smile

So

26,278 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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andy tims said:
"Tegimenting (Source):

Sinn uses tegimented 316 SS to increase scratch resistance. It forms a shell that is 4 - 5 times harder than the underlying SS. The process is called SAT12 and was patented by an Ohio company called Swagelok in August of 1998. In typical case hardening, SS is heated to near it's melting point, but with tegimentation the temperature is kept much lower. This keeps carbides (carbon bonded with other elements - particularly chromium in this case) from forming. Then they carburize (infuse carbon onto) the surface layer to increase the strength of the steel. The finished product can be dented under extreme cases, but resists scratches better than even ice-hardened steel"

What I do no from personal experience is that this watch is "well ard"
I once bashed it into the stone plinth of a building in London. Looked down expecting to see a damaged watch & all I saw was that the bezel had moved a few notches & there was some stone fragments on the case. The watch was completely unscathed but the stone plinth was slightly chipped.

Sinn also use U-boat grade stainless steel on some non-tegimented watches including the U1
We’re u boats made from stainless then? I would have guessed at plain steel painted, but I am no expert on the subject.

Careful with that Sinn Eugene, sounds like a WMD.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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h4rvs87 said:
I'm not sure what RRP was, however they retail for around £40k if you can find one nowadays.
Lottery win? Inheritance? Generous dad?

CardShark

4,194 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Just back from Seiko for a new battery, it's been some time since this made an appearance in WC.


dc2rr07

1,238 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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PJ S said:
Interesting articles, I did have to dig my old Zeus book out to see what 1200 Vickers was in HRC though smile

ceebmoj

1,898 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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andy tims said:
That is lovely. looking at lots of Sinn watches atm. How is Sinn pronounced zinn, sinn?

onesickpuppy

2,648 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Loving this on the NATO today!


Caruso

7,436 posts

256 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Speedie Pro today.

Graemsay

612 posts

212 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Not mine. frown



The local IWC boutique had some of the 150th Jubilee Collection on display, and I got a chance to look at the Tribute to Pallweber.

It's gorgeous, and I want one. I probably can't afford it, unfortunately.

So

26,278 posts

222 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Graemsay said:
Not mine. frown



The local IWC boutique had some of the 150th Jubilee Collection on display, and I got a chance to look at the Tribute to Pallweber.

It's gorgeous, and I want one. I probably can't afford it, unfortunately.
That’s one ugly watch.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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New to me, fresh in from Watchfinders. Ordered yesterday afternoon, delivered before lunch today.
Not a bad price either - happy.