Facebook Marketplace - so many counterfeits
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Blown2CV said:
what's the point in making a really high quality fake using genuine movement? Bit of a high cost/risk enterprise. Presume the aim is to sell it for the same money as a genuine item (as opposed to the "Rolex for £150 honest" s
te that is the subject of this thread) but how much effort, resources, time would it take to get close? Lots... too much?
Different customers. The fakes that are advertised as fakes go straight to the Facebook punters, tourists in Tenerife etc. Superfakes have been bought by jewellers believing them to be real. That's my understanding from the limited info I've found on the superfakes. te that is the subject of this thread) but how much effort, resources, time would it take to get close? Lots... too much?Your average pawnbroker will spot a normal fake a mile off but they might pay out a significant sum on an 18karat gold superfake. That sort of thing.
I have two friends, one who owns a steel Hublot Big Bang that he bought from an AD. The other has a fake he bought in Bangkok for £500.
I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
Taaaaang said:
I have two friends, one who owns a steel Hublot Big Bang that he bought from an AD. The other has a fake he bought in Bangkok for £500.
I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
And did they get their respective watches back or are they now wearing each other's watch? I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
Hoofy said:
Taaaaang said:
I have two friends, one who owns a steel Hublot Big Bang that he bought from an AD. The other has a fake he bought in Bangkok for £500.
I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
And did they get their respective watches back or are they now wearing each other's watch? I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
Taaaaang said:
Oh yeah. The friend with the real one is still rather peeved about the whole thing.
And uncertain whether he got his watch back?
When I compared my Alpha GMT Pepsi with the Rolex equivalent, the guy who owned the Rolex did a careful check that I handed the right one back.
The only real difference was:-the angle of the bezel was steeper on the Rolex
-the second hand moved smoothly
-the name was different on the face.
Everything else was pretty much spot on including the s
t cheap feel bracelet. 
Taaaaang said:
Hoofy said:
Taaaaang said:
I have two friends, one who owns a steel Hublot Big Bang that he bought from an AD. The other has a fake he bought in Bangkok for £500.
I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
And did they get their respective watches back or are they now wearing each other's watch? I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
Blown2CV said:
Taaaaang said:
Hoofy said:
Taaaaang said:
I have two friends, one who owns a steel Hublot Big Bang that he bought from an AD. The other has a fake he bought in Bangkok for £500.
I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
And did they get their respective watches back or are they now wearing each other's watch? I spent ages trying to tell them apart, one in each hand trying to figure out the weight difference etc. It was impossible.
Having said that, those horrid things are well known as being relatively easy to copy.
It even came with a box the same too!
Interesting thread here of a super knowledgeable Rolex dealers recent experience of a super fake
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?416366-Warni...
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?416366-Warni...
Deano84 said:
Blown2CV said:
not sure why. I'd be happy to know mine was the real one.
I agree with you, buying a genuine article is a lot more satisfying that wearing a cheap replica, I wouldn't feel right wearing a replica, it's a bit embarrassing in my opinion.Hoofy said:
Deano84 said:
Blown2CV said:
not sure why. I'd be happy to know mine was the real one.
I agree with you, buying a genuine article is a lot more satisfying that wearing a cheap replica, I wouldn't feel right wearing a replica, it's a bit embarrassing in my opinion.I've recently bought myself a GMT master II Parnis 'homage' from ebay for £80.
So far it's been a pretty decent automatic, quite well finished and fairly accurate (not properly measured it, but I'd estimate +10s a day). It's a sterile dial (i.e. no maker marks), but for all intents and purposes is a visual copy of the Rolex original. I'm sure it would fool most people(*1) if the dial had Rolex printed on it.
The most amazing thing about the watch, is that it's the first metal bracelet I've ever worn which is comfortable and doesn't pull hairs out of my wrist!
(*1) most people having only seen a Rolex in a high street jewellers window.
So far it's been a pretty decent automatic, quite well finished and fairly accurate (not properly measured it, but I'd estimate +10s a day). It's a sterile dial (i.e. no maker marks), but for all intents and purposes is a visual copy of the Rolex original. I'm sure it would fool most people(*1) if the dial had Rolex printed on it.
The most amazing thing about the watch, is that it's the first metal bracelet I've ever worn which is comfortable and doesn't pull hairs out of my wrist!
(*1) most people having only seen a Rolex in a high street jewellers window.
Parnis is a mushroom brand.
The seller buys a kit of parts and assembles the watch. So you'll find that the quality of the end product is very dependent on the seller.
It's also important to choose a seller that has a reputation for taking returns, because, let's face it, they are $100 watches.
I can vouch for Manbushijie. You'll find an online shop. Prices are lower when you log in.
I have one Parnis, not a homage. It is one of my favourites and gets more wear than some of the prestige brand watches I have. It came from Manbushijie, the first one was a duffer, it was duly returned and replaced without any fuss.
The seller buys a kit of parts and assembles the watch. So you'll find that the quality of the end product is very dependent on the seller.
It's also important to choose a seller that has a reputation for taking returns, because, let's face it, they are $100 watches.
I can vouch for Manbushijie. You'll find an online shop. Prices are lower when you log in.
I have one Parnis, not a homage. It is one of my favourites and gets more wear than some of the prestige brand watches I have. It came from Manbushijie, the first one was a duffer, it was duly returned and replaced without any fuss.
mikeveal said:
Parnis is a mushroom brand.
The seller buys a kit of parts and assembles the watch. So you'll find that the quality of the end product is very dependent on the seller.
It's also important to choose a seller that has a reputation for taking returns, because, let's face it, they are $100 watches.
I can vouch for Manbushijie. You'll find an online shop. Prices are lower when you log in.
I have one Parnis, not a homage. It is one of my favourites and gets more wear than some of the prestige brand watches I have. It came from Manbushijie, the first one was a duffer, it was duly returned and replaced without any fuss.
Yes, I bought from a UK reseller with good feedback, working on the principal that if it fails in the first few weeks I'll send back, after that I'll take my chances...The seller buys a kit of parts and assembles the watch. So you'll find that the quality of the end product is very dependent on the seller.
It's also important to choose a seller that has a reputation for taking returns, because, let's face it, they are $100 watches.
I can vouch for Manbushijie. You'll find an online shop. Prices are lower when you log in.
I have one Parnis, not a homage. It is one of my favourites and gets more wear than some of the prestige brand watches I have. It came from Manbushijie, the first one was a duffer, it was duly returned and replaced without any fuss.
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