Your thoughts on fake watches
Discussion
I am perfectly aware that in many countries counterfeit watches are illegal, as I am that in many countries they aren't. I don't own one, and have no interest in owning one, albeit I am a big fan of well made homage watches. There are arguments that fake watches damage the business of luxury brands, although it could be argued that fake watches are actually a free form of advertising for the real thing. Some may say that if luxury brand watches were not so unnecessarily expensive, then fake brands wouldn't exist, or possibly not so many of them. The arguments go on and on, and I am fully aware that most owners of expensive watches hate fakes.
From a personal point of view, the concept of a fake watch doesn't bother me if the buyer is aware it is fake. What annoys me is somebody being lead into buying an imitation in the belief it is real. It sure is a controversial subject, but life is boring with controversy !!
Your views gentleman
From a personal point of view, the concept of a fake watch doesn't bother me if the buyer is aware it is fake. What annoys me is somebody being lead into buying an imitation in the belief it is real. It sure is a controversial subject, but life is boring with controversy !!
Your views gentleman
Personally I think there are so many great watches around that are much the same price as a decent replica that I'd rather have one of those. Discovering those small brands is part of the fun for me.
Doesn't bother me if other people buy them and I find the whole scene quite interesting, especially how fussy some of the replica fans are. Looking at some of the recent ones with replica movements, you definitely need to be careful buying used stuff these days!
Doesn't bother me if other people buy them and I find the whole scene quite interesting, especially how fussy some of the replica fans are. Looking at some of the recent ones with replica movements, you definitely need to be careful buying used stuff these days!
TiggerBits said:
dc2rr07 said:
Whatever floats your boat springs to mind, out of curiosity why are you so interested in watches.
Because I know quite a lot about them, own 36 of them, and bore all my friends to death about them. What about you ?I'm not keen on fakes, but I've owned 3:
A cheap Chinese "Frank Muller" bought on eBay to try it out for size, as I fancied a tonneau-cased watch. Way too big for my small wrists, fell apart after a few days anyway.
A slightly less cheap Chinese "Rolex Sub", again to try for size. I bought a real one secondhand shortly afterwards, and sold the fake to a friend for £40. He had a thing for Chinese stuff. Without trying the fake, I would never have bought a real Rolex.
I bought another Rolex a couple of years later, this time a new one.
A very good "Rolex Sub LV" that had been passed off as the real thing to a trade contact. Very convincing, inside and out. I bought this one because I was curious about how good fakes had become. Waste of money really, as the timekeeping is worse than the cheap Chinese fakes. It's designed to deceive, and it does.
One day I'll take it apart, possibly fit a decent ETA movement rather than the fake "Rolex".
A cheap Chinese "Frank Muller" bought on eBay to try it out for size, as I fancied a tonneau-cased watch. Way too big for my small wrists, fell apart after a few days anyway.
A slightly less cheap Chinese "Rolex Sub", again to try for size. I bought a real one secondhand shortly afterwards, and sold the fake to a friend for £40. He had a thing for Chinese stuff. Without trying the fake, I would never have bought a real Rolex.
I bought another Rolex a couple of years later, this time a new one.
A very good "Rolex Sub LV" that had been passed off as the real thing to a trade contact. Very convincing, inside and out. I bought this one because I was curious about how good fakes had become. Waste of money really, as the timekeeping is worse than the cheap Chinese fakes. It's designed to deceive, and it does.
One day I'll take it apart, possibly fit a decent ETA movement rather than the fake "Rolex".
Blown2CV said:
fake watches are for fake people who only want attention, and don't care what the genuine article is really about.
Complete bow-lox, only if they think that everyone thinks the fake is real.I bought a snide Cartier in Times Square, NYC around 1979, for $10, I wore it for work, driving a truck, and later a Black Cab for years, it never went wrong, just needed a new battery every 3 to 4 years.
If anyone admired it, I’d tell them it was a snide, I bought it because it was simple and uncluttered, with a white face, and Roman numerals.
When I went out in the evening, I wore either a razor slim Titan, or a skinny Skagen.
Frank7 said:
Blown2CV said:
fake watches are for fake people who only want attention, and don't care what the genuine article is really about.
Complete bow-lox, only if they think that everyone thinks the fake is real.I bought a snide Cartier in Times Square, NYC around 1979, for $10, I wore it for work, driving a truck, and later a Black Cab for years, it never went wrong, just needed a new battery every 3 to 4 years.
If anyone admired it, I’d tell them it was a snide, I bought it because it was simple and uncluttered, with a white face, and Roman numerals.
When I went out in the evening, I wore either a razor slim Titan, or a skinny Skagen.
Blown2CV said:
Frank7 said:
Blown2CV said:
fake watches are for fake people who only want attention, and don't care what the genuine article is really about.
Complete bow-lox, only if they think that everyone thinks the fake is real.I bought a snide Cartier in Times Square, NYC around 1979, for $10, I wore it for work, driving a truck, and later a Black Cab for years, it never went wrong, just needed a new battery every 3 to 4 years.
If anyone admired it, I’d tell them it was a snide, I bought it because it was simple and uncluttered, with a white face, and Roman numerals.
When I went out in the evening, I wore either a razor slim Titan, or a skinny Skagen.
I maybe touched a nerve there!
I do own a fake, it’s a B&R 01/03 (I put both models, as it is mid way between the 2 lol) that I bought in Bangkok as I had always loved the style of them but previously had found a Monaco to be extremely uncomfortable. So wanted to check I could wear one long term.
I now own the real version of the fake, the difference in quality between them is night and day.
On another thread someone said about their fake Rolex fooling people from 1m away, that completely misses the point to me I get pleasure from the small details that are apparent from a few cm away (not literally.) The fakes might get the case size and shape rightish, they don’t usually get the little things correct.
All of my watches are either bought used, vintage or discounted new, going out and giving someone cash for a watch, be it £10 for a fake or £10k for something I really want, does not really interest me, there is no chase, no thrill in “finding” it. I have to WANT it and see it at a price I like from a decent seller before I buy it. A fake removes that game. It can only ever tick a small box of the ownership experience.
I now own the real version of the fake, the difference in quality between them is night and day.
On another thread someone said about their fake Rolex fooling people from 1m away, that completely misses the point to me I get pleasure from the small details that are apparent from a few cm away (not literally.) The fakes might get the case size and shape rightish, they don’t usually get the little things correct.
All of my watches are either bought used, vintage or discounted new, going out and giving someone cash for a watch, be it £10 for a fake or £10k for something I really want, does not really interest me, there is no chase, no thrill in “finding” it. I have to WANT it and see it at a price I like from a decent seller before I buy it. A fake removes that game. It can only ever tick a small box of the ownership experience.
Frank7 said:
Blown2CV said:
Frank7 said:
Blown2CV said:
fake watches are for fake people who only want attention, and don't care what the genuine article is really about.
Complete bow-lox, only if they think that everyone thinks the fake is real.I bought a snide Cartier in Times Square, NYC around 1979, for $10, I wore it for work, driving a truck, and later a Black Cab for years, it never went wrong, just needed a new battery every 3 to 4 years.
If anyone admired it, I’d tell them it was a snide, I bought it because it was simple and uncluttered, with a white face, and Roman numerals.
When I went out in the evening, I wore either a razor slim Titan, or a skinny Skagen.
I maybe touched a nerve there!
AmosMoses said:
I really want a Newman Daytona, but they are way out of my price range and probably always will. I can get a really good fake Daytona for £500, would I? No it just feels wrong.
honestly i think it would be a better idea to spend £50 on a fake than £500. You can get a lot of nice other watches for £500, it doesn't need to be a fake rolex with a £10 movement.A friend bought me a fake Bentley Breitling back from Dubai once, although I hadn't asked for one. I told him I thought it was bust already as it wasn't working but it turned out to be self-winding, which I was surpised about. Wore it for a bit but felt a bit of a fraud, and would always say it was fake if anyone took an interest. Didn't stand up to close scrutiny anyway - the Bentley logo was slightly wonky. I've not seen an authentic one, but other than that it looled pretty good.
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