Your thoughts on fake watches
Discussion
clockworks said:
This is my fake LV, the one I mentioned a few days ago that had taken in someone who has handled quite a few Rolexes over the years. Looks quite convincing to me
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you could tell by looking at that bracelet from a number paces away. Open lug holes where they shouldn't be. Clasp section is paper thin. In the view of the caseback look at the top right gap where the lug is and how it isn't machined as cleanly as the others. [url]|https://thumbsnap.com/3ag5tT3k[/url][url]|https://thumbsnap.com/eMLAVKQv[/url][url]|https://thumbsnap.com/eUTIEhon[/url]Stone me, I haven't been in here for a while but still the same old s
t being posted about fakes. They are st!
Don't care if it is a $50 or $1000 one they are still st.
Plenty good watches out there to suit anyone's budget instead of having to buy a fake watch.
t being posted about fakes. They are st!Don't care if it is a $50 or $1000 one they are still s
t.Plenty good watches out there to suit anyone's budget instead of having to buy a fake watch.
Edited by The GMan on Wednesday 25th April 16:50
TiggerBits said:
sidicks said:
Another thread where Tiggerbits talks nonsense about stuff he doesn’t really understand to try and justify his purchase of ‘homage’ watches instead of the real thing that he actually can’t afford to buy in the first place?
How dull.
How dull.
I never saw an answer.
You seem to object to being called a troll, and yet you've joined a car forum where you only ever post on the watch section, and even then only subjects that would obviously cause debate.
Why are you here? Think you said you're retired - is it really that boring? You remind me of the recently banned Yipper who's only contributions were to cause arguments - although he posted in more areas than you, but fortunately got banned in the end.
glazbagun said:
It's crazy that they're going to the trouble of faking the movement though. Regulator is a bit of a giveaway! 
How did I manage to miss that one! It is a bit of a giveaway, isn't it.Thanks for pointing it out, as it means I'm in with a chance of getting it to keep time. I wasn't looking forward to fiddling with microstella screws, so I'm glad this watch has a standard balance and regulator.
I wonder if anyone has faked the real balance? Probably beyond what's possible with the kind of tooling that a generic Chinese workshop has available - for now.
davek_964 said:
I think it was on another thread, but somebody asked why you're even on the forum. It's primarily a car forum but you only ever seem to post here - and even then, you seem intent on posting contentious issues, and even repeat similar threads.
I never saw an answer.
You seem to object to being called a troll, and yet you've joined a car forum where you only ever post on the watch section, and even then only subjects that would obviously cause debate.
Why are you here? Think you said you're retired - is it really that boring? You remind me of the recently banned Yipper who's only contributions were to cause arguments - although he posted in more areas than you, but fortunately got banned in the end.
To be fair I did see him on the massive Trump thread about how pro Trump he is and how he wished trump could be PM here.I never saw an answer.
You seem to object to being called a troll, and yet you've joined a car forum where you only ever post on the watch section, and even then only subjects that would obviously cause debate.
Why are you here? Think you said you're retired - is it really that boring? You remind me of the recently banned Yipper who's only contributions were to cause arguments - although he posted in more areas than you, but fortunately got banned in the end.
clockworks said:
glazbagun said:
It's crazy that they're going to the trouble of faking the movement though. Regulator is a bit of a giveaway!
How did I manage to miss that one! It is a bit of a giveaway, isn't it.Thanks for pointing it out, as it means I'm in with a chance of getting it to keep time. I wasn't looking forward to fiddling with microstella screws, so I'm glad this watch has a standard balance and regulator.
I wonder if anyone has faked the real balance? Probably beyond what's possible with the kind of tooling that a generic Chinese workshop has available - for now.
glazbagun said:
bigandclever said:
3135 shouldn’t be obscured. That was easy 
It's crazy that they're going to the trouble of faking the movement though. Regulator is a bit of a giveaway! nikaiyo2 said:
glazbagun said:
bigandclever said:
3135 shouldn’t be obscured. That was easy
It's crazy that they're going to the trouble of faking the movement though. Regulator is a bit of a giveaway! 
lostkiwi said:
If they can fake a tourbillon (and the Chinese are doing them now) they can fake a regulator. Don't underestimate the ability of the Chinese to copy anything!
Making a tourbillon isn't much different to making a standard watch. It's making a good tourbillon that's the hard bit and where genuine manufacturers fall down, let alone guys doing them on the cheap.Re: the balance, eventually there is a point of diminishing returns. A freesprung balance with overcoil is just plain harder to get right as you have less adjustability and it takes either better production standards and machines, or more skilled labour to achieve.
Likewise Omega's CoAxial, the tolerance on the coaxial wheel is another level on the escape wheel that was in the 1120. Enough to cause the Swatch group headaches, so it's probably not going to be worth faking for quite some time, if ever.
Edited by glazbagun on Thursday 26th April 07:52
Wearing a fake anything is admitting to yourself that you've failed on many levels in life.
For work I wear Momentum or GShocks to avoid damaging a decent watch. I wouldn't wear a £50 fake.
0% finance is freely available and a decent watch doesn't lose all it's value so why bother with fakes?
What next a Ferrari kit car in fake non UV aviator glasses?
However...over quite a few years my wife used to go to HK for business. She came across a place that sold 'fake' high end leather bags. She bought a few and checked where the QC etc stickers were in the shops. Identical.
We thought these 'made in Italy' bags really weren't. They were just 'finished' in Italy whatever that means.
For work I wear Momentum or GShocks to avoid damaging a decent watch. I wouldn't wear a £50 fake.
0% finance is freely available and a decent watch doesn't lose all it's value so why bother with fakes?
What next a Ferrari kit car in fake non UV aviator glasses?
However...over quite a few years my wife used to go to HK for business. She came across a place that sold 'fake' high end leather bags. She bought a few and checked where the QC etc stickers were in the shops. Identical.
We thought these 'made in Italy' bags really weren't. They were just 'finished' in Italy whatever that means.
Sa Calobra said:
Wearing a fake anything is admitting to yourself that you've failed on many levels in life.
For work I wear Momentum or GShocks to avoid damaging a decent watch. I wouldn't wear a £50 fake.
0% finance is freely available and a decent watch doesn't lose all it's value so why bother with fakes?
What next a Ferrari kit car in fake non UV aviator glasses?
However...over quite a few years my wife used to go to HK for business. She came across a place that sold 'fake' high end leather bags. She bought a few and checked where the QC etc stickers were in the shops. Identical.
We thought these 'made in Italy' bags really weren't. They were just 'finished' in Italy whatever that means.
Bit of a mixed message there.For work I wear Momentum or GShocks to avoid damaging a decent watch. I wouldn't wear a £50 fake.
0% finance is freely available and a decent watch doesn't lose all it's value so why bother with fakes?
What next a Ferrari kit car in fake non UV aviator glasses?
However...over quite a few years my wife used to go to HK for business. She came across a place that sold 'fake' high end leather bags. She bought a few and checked where the QC etc stickers were in the shops. Identical.
We thought these 'made in Italy' bags really weren't. They were just 'finished' in Italy whatever that means.
You state that owning a fake watch is because you have completely failed at life, yet you are happy for your wife to buy and own a collection of fake handbags?
lostkiwi said:
If they can fake a tourbillon (and the Chinese are doing them now) they can fake a regulator. Don't underestimate the ability of the Chinese to copy anything!
Not quite. There are hundreds of thousands of awful $50 fakes with an open balance wheel on the dial. Awful tat. But there are legitimate chinese companies (Seagull etc) that make legitimate, well manufactured, tourbillion movements. These are used in their own, and other, genuine watches under their own branding. The movements are available to purchase so can be slotted into any case that will fit it.
The fakes with genuine tourbillion will be $1200 upwards.
But no one has replicated the microstella regulator of the 3135 rolex movement yet.
Zoon said:
It's an accurate replica, the old Rolex bracelets really were ste compared to the new ones.
In comparison, yes, the new bracelets are better. But, the old ones weren't rubbish either. You get watches 40-50 years old on their original bracelets doing their job keeping the watch on your wrist just finete compared to the new ones.Gassing Station | Watches | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff