Rolex service (quote received) + bracelet refurb

Rolex service (quote received) + bracelet refurb

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AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Hi all,

Finally took the Rolex Datejust 16203 that I inherited from my late father to the Rolex UK HQ the other day for a service estimate.



We knew that a spring bar was broken and that the bracelet was "worn" but nothing stupidly excessive. When they did an initial inspection they also said the crystal was chipped etc but the girl on reception said she sees crystal chips everyday and they are very rarely replaced.

I was expecting them to come back and say it needs service as a must have and recommend new crystal etc but they have come back with a quote for £2512.70 and the way I'm reading it is they are telling me all of this is "needed" work rather than optional.

Do you think Rolex will let me proceed with just a "service" ignoring the crystal, crown and bracelet? If I do that will they polish the bracelet as well or just the watch itself?

or is it wise to get service + crown and ignore the crystal + bracelet.

I have also been contemplating using prestige time services (cheshire) and perpetual time (liverpool), perpetual time say they can "refurbish" the bracelet so its a lot tighter, prestige time services say they can't.

Is there anybody else I can use in UK for bracelet repair? I really hate the idea of sending it away by post so would rather drop it off. I was hoping to get a one stop shop for it all to be completed.

Here is the estimate


Here is a photo that shows the gap between links

AJB88

Original Poster:

12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Finally got RSC to answer the phone,

Crown + Crystal are needed for the service or else they won't guarantee waterproofing. They will replace the broken spring bar as part of the "service"

They will ultrasonic clean the bracelet but won't polish it so will end up with a polished watch and not bracelet.

UnclePat

508 posts

87 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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No matter how pristine the watch, pessimistic Rolex inspection reports always make it seem like the watch is a veritable wreck, so I wouldn’t pay too much concern.

I don’t really blame them. Their concern is not saving you money, or preserving originality - it’s mechanically making the watch the soundest it can be. And that’s also fair enough if they’re standing over their work for a two-year Warranty - no point them getting the movement in tip-top condition only for an aged crown to ruin all their work by flooding the interior the first time you get in the pool (and then angrily beat down their door claiming their work to be sub-standard).

Spring bar replacement is essential, so is the crown in all likelihood (being the weakest point in terms of water resistance), and the crystal debatable, but for all the minimal cost you may as well replace it too.

The service cost is fine.

So that just leaves the bracelet - take that replacement cost out of the equation, and the service bill will actually be quite reasonable. You can certainly ask them to leave it, as you’ve ascertained.

You can also instruct nothing - not the case, nor the bracelet - be polished, if you wish.

Bracelet refurb is a specialist task. There is a well known guy in Honk Kong, but you don’t want to post it off. If it’s not that bad you’ll likely be fine to wear it.

If you go somewhere non-Rolex, you’ll get a more sympathetic, optional service offering, but then the Rolex service comes with two-year guarantee, a set of service papers (handy if the original papers have been lost), and they also replace quite a few other movement parts with OEM parts as standard, included in the service price and not necessarily itemised on the bill.

Nice watch, and your choice.

aeropilot

34,580 posts

227 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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If you take off the price for the new bracelet then it's worth having all the other work done.

You could always just put the serviced/refurbished watch on a leather strap or other strap if not wanting to spend a not inconsiderable amount on new bracelet.

Or when you get it back you could remove the bracelet and ship it to Michael Young for one of his excellent bracelet refurb jobs which will cost a LOT less than a replacement bracelet from Rolex.


Private Pile

754 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Michael Young refurbed my Datejust bracelet and done a fantastic job. It does mean sending it way though.

Joe, at Anglesey watch repair, done the service. I can't remember the price, but it was peanuts.

Barchettaman

6,308 posts

132 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Did, or has done.

Standards, people!

Tony1963

4,760 posts

162 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Barchettaman said:
Did, or has done.

Standards, people!
I'm glad you beat me to it.

Done my nut in!

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Contact details for Michael Young?

aeropilot

34,580 posts

227 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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AJB88 said:
Contact details for Michael Young?
http://www.classicwatchrepair.com/english/band-res...


AJB88

Original Poster:

12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Excellent, just been looking on their Instagram and hes actually done the exact bracelet I have before, apart from the one before was in a lot worse condition.

Tempted for now just to get it serviced and cleaned up a little bit. Rolex will replace the springbars as well. The bracelet isn't that worn yet.

Dominic H

3,275 posts

232 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Do you have any more images of the bracelet? As it doesn't look to be excessively worn, it's the Jubilee version that suffers more with wear/stretch.


wong

1,288 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Rolex forgot to charge you for exchange hands (like "new brake pads scam").

bobbybee

872 posts

154 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Dominic H said:
Do you have any more images of the bracelet? As it doesn't look to be excessively worn, it's the Jubilee version that suffers more with wear/stretch.
Except you can drive a bus through the link gaps

MrJuice

3,359 posts

156 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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I haven't ever used the chap in HK but have heard good reports about him for ten years so wouldn't hesitate myself if the need ever arose

I'd get the service done with glass and crown replacement. The watch will be good for ages. Probably north of ten years, even if worn daily, from my experience of wearing rolex. The bracelet will come back in decent condition from what I have seen and will obviously also be polished. Or you could use the watch on a leather strap or just use the bracelet as is. I think you'd be very unlucky for the watch to fall off your wrist and you not notice. Oh, and get it insured, in case that ever happens.

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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MrJuice said:
I haven't ever used the chap in HK but have heard good reports about him for ten years so wouldn't hesitate myself if the need ever arose

I'd get the service done with glass and crown replacement. The watch will be good for ages. Probably north of ten years, even if worn daily, from my experience of wearing rolex. The bracelet will come back in decent condition from what I have seen and will obviously also be polished. Or you could use the watch on a leather strap or just use the bracelet as is. I think you'd be very unlucky for the watch to fall off your wrist and you not notice. Oh, and get it insured, in case that ever happens.
Watch is insured a long with my Tudor BB GMT and Omega Seamaster, the Rolex doesn't get a lot of wrist time, its reserved more for events as Gold isn't really my colour.

Its going to get serviced, its last service was 2002 and its running fine at the moment but a lot better safe than sorry with it.

Been in contact with MY, might send the bracelet to him in the new year.

smithyithy

7,243 posts

118 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Pretty much what others have already said - I'd opt for full service, glass and crown from Rolex.

Then throw on a nice leather strap until such time you decide to get the bracelet refurbished. Would make a really nice dress / smart watch paired with some brown crocodile IMO

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Watch is now in for service with Christian Dannemann (watchguy.co.uk) instructed him to carry out full service and replace crown + crystal if they are needed. He is also going to ultrasonic clean the watch and bracelet.

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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some sneaky pictures from Christian





Vectron

25 posts

92 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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Have your Rolex bracelet rebuild by the Watch Dealer in Southend he done a super job on my Submariner Bracelet cost? £195

Vectron

25 posts

92 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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KLOKKELAND in Norway are experts at Rolex Bracelet repairs