A fool and his money....

A fool and his money....

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Genuine question. Why would anybody pay above rrp for watches that are widely available from the windows of AD’s? For example these:



or the many other examples from the likes of watchfinder.

I almost get the ‘must have it now’ mentality as regards watches that genuinely are in short supply but, honestly, is anybody stupid enough to pay more than list from from the resellers for watches that are readily available?

castex

4,936 posts

273 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Gold taps in the bathroom.

ColdoRS

1,802 posts

127 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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I’ve not seen a new Daytona in an ADs window for a long time.

Of course there will be the odd one that ends up there but surely they are few and far between?

But yeah, I agree, a fool and his money! Many more exciting, interesting and well made watches available for less.

rog007

5,759 posts

224 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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I look far and wide during my travels and don’t recall seeing a Daytona in a window in the last 12/18months. Saw one in my own AD just before Christmas last year but it wasn’t in the window and it was £100k (diamond encrusted and waiting for it’s Far East buyer to arrive to collect it). I was allowed to try it on though hurl

T6 vanman

3,065 posts

99 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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And there I was thinking this would be a thread about my last purchase getmecoat

Assuming the two question have been asked
1: is the asking price the actual sales price paid
2: can you walk ito a dealer and pick up the same without a wait

Jumpingjackflash

589 posts

179 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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I was at a jewellers in Glasgow Argyle Arcade last week. They had a pre owned Black Dial Ceramic Daytona at £18k. I told them I was not buying but could I look at it. They were very nice and let me try on a few watches like the Breguet Type 20 and Blancpain 50 Fathoms. I am so glad I looked at the Daytona again because it was the third time I have seen it in the the flesh and all three occasions it has done nothing for me. I keep thinking with ceramic bezel it looks like a TAG. I much preferred the TYPE 20.




rog007

5,759 posts

224 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Jumpingjackflash said:
I am so glad I looked at the Daytona again because it was the third time I have seen it in the the flesh and all three occasions it has done nothing for me. I keep thinking with ceramic bezel it looks like a TAG. I much preferred the TYPE 20.
And I thought it was just me! The Daytona continues to do nothing for me, nothing at all. I find it the most uninspiring Rolex and so is last in the queue for my own money.


Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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T6 vanman said:
And there I was thinking this would be a thread about my last purchase getmecoat
No. We've all had a chat and decided that you're beyond help, so any buying advice we might have would be lost on you.

wink

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Hmmm. Fwiw, right now Goldsmiths in Trafford Centre Salford have three new gold Daytona in yellow gold, everose and white gold on display in the main window. All on oysterflex straps. Maybe more inside; I didn’t go in. List price, available now. (Plus, of course, you don’t have to pay on top to change the strap size as you would if buying from a re-seller).

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 11th November 14:08

UnclePat

508 posts

87 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Precious metal Daytonas aren’t that hard to come by.

As most know, it’s the stainless steel versions that are like unicorn poo, and attracting premium second-hand prices as such (to the point where they are pretty much at a parity with some precious metal versions, which - but for the scarcity aspect - is a hard one to get my head around).

Those white gold Daytonas in the OP are sold at higher than RRP prices because most people are lazy, and if they can sucker one idiot into paying more, at the cost of one online ad, then they win. And Watchfinder is notorious for over-pricing everything. If anything, I’d be pushing for a discount on a new precious metal Rolex from a bricks & mortar store.

The Daytona is a great watch: very accurate, well-made, tough, reliable & all the other ancillary stuff that comes with a Rolex. And the Chronograph movement is near best-in-class (leaving aside those that strive for other virtues of being hand-built, highly-finished etc.).

But the intrinsic value (as opposed to actual re-sale market value) in the watch just isn’t there for me, and personally (even as someone who likes & respects Rolex) I’d much rather spend my money elsewhere.

aeropilot

34,526 posts

227 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Hang On said:
Genuine question. Why would anybody pay above rrp for watches that are widely available from the windows of AD’s? For example these:


Go and try and find an AD with a steel Daytona in the window.....and you'll have your answer.

4321go

638 posts

187 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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aeropilot said:
Go and try and find an AD with a steel Daytona in the window.....and you'll have your answer.
I think the point is that those watches AREN’T steel. They’re white gold, steel face, oysterflex strap. Readily available in AD windows and RRP £22,150

malks222

1,853 posts

139 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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in the window of chisholm hunter in edinburgh

amare32

2,417 posts

223 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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malks222 said:
in the window of chisholm hunter in edinburgh
Yeah saw that sitting behind their window 2 weeks ago - LOL @ £18k.

I'd rather get the PM for £3k more. I guess that's what Rolex want people to do.

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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I tried that very watch on in Edinburgh on Saturday.

Didn`t like it at all, much to Mrs B`s relief.

Ceramic Daytona is stupid. Folk should just tell Rolex to shove it up there arse for engineering the whole fiasco.

Even better was the next shop I went to where I was informed they weren`t allowed to sell Rolex to the Chinese !! lol. Brilliant, couldn`t make it up.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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I heard from an AD there is a 12 year waiting list for the Daytona, so I guess its the usual supply/demand

smithyithy

7,223 posts

118 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Brads67 said:
in Edinburgh

Even better was the next shop I went to where I was informed they weren`t allowed to sell Rolex to the Chinese !! lol. Brilliant, couldn`t make it up.
What?! You're gonna have to drop a name now lol

davek_964

8,809 posts

175 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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UnclePat said:
...The Daytona is a great watch: very accurate...
Mine is OK, but I wouldn't describe it as very accurate - my Breguet keeps much more accurate time. The Daytona tends to gain a little and has done since I bought it new.

UnclePat

508 posts

87 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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davek_964 said:
Mine is OK, but I wouldn't describe it as very accurate - my Breguet keeps much more accurate time. The Daytona tends to gain a little and has done since I bought it new.
The most accurate watch I own is not my Rolex either, it's a quality micro-brand using a Top Grade ETA 2824-2 - but then I know that brand sells only a small number of watches a year and hand-regulates each of them beforehand, so it's not a huge surprise (and the 2824-2 is a good movement in it's own right).

However, that personal service is a different kettle of fish to a mass-producer like Rolex stating every one of circa 800,000 (I'm speculating here) watches they make in a year will be guaranteed to be +/- 2 seconds daily, which any way you cut it is extremely accurate in my book. The difference between a Rolex movement and the majority of average-standard Swiss movements is that due to the way it's constructed, the Rolex has a greater chance of remaining stable and being less susceptible to going awry from shocks etc., and unlike an ETA, for example, is less prone to positional variation.

Cipo

320 posts

182 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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What about people paying above rrp (UK) for hard to get watches that are bought abroad due to crappy exchange rates?