Genuine fake Rolex. Includes box & papers!

Genuine fake Rolex. Includes box & papers!

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Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Monday 26th November
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There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe

Camelot1971 said:
Pommy said:
Rolex who carry tax dodge status in Switzerland probably help fund more dodgy people through helping prop up a corrupt Swiss banking system than a few fake watches.

Edited by Pommy on Monday 26th November 11:22
So you don't mind funding the corrupt Swiss banking system either then?
Well mine was bought unused Pre-owned from Dom H so am thinking Dom got my money not Rolex but if I’m feeding a desirable product request then indirectly I am and frankly I couldn’t give a crap. There is literally no large company on earth that doesn’t dodge some system in some way but it was a rather flippant way to rebut a sense I was funding ISIS at $20 a time hehe


Mark83 said:
Pommy said:
I don't get worried about getting mugged as much as I do falling over drunk and breaking it for example.
But you're aware you might be the victim of a violent mugging for a £10 watch?

Most of the time my Rolex is covered by a long sleeve, especially in more at risk places. I bought it because it was the watch I'd wanted since I was a kid, not for show. If I was going somewhere with an increased risk or reputation of muggings, I'd swap it for my G Shock. It's just not worth the risk, Shirley?
I could be the victim of a violent mugging for my wedding ring, at least with a cheap knock off I’m not losing £5k as well


Lorne said:
Pommy said:
I like the look of it. It's quite simple.

A good fake Rolex still looks better than a 'homage

I don't get worried about getting mugged as much as I do falling over drunk and breaking it for example.

I've had fake versions of a lot of my real watches like Breitlings, Omegas etc - I don't really overthink it. I've been to Asia a lot and the choice is huge.

One of my favourites was a Bell & Ross without the massive depreciationhehe
Just as a note of caution, some fake (or replica or whatever you call them) watches are made, coated or plated with things you really wouldn't want sitting on you skin for too long. Lead and mercury amalgams are quite popular with the more expensive fakes as they give the watch a nice heavy weight and a good finish.
Never had an issue in 20 yrs of various pieces but everydays a school day.

bonerp said:
Pommy said:
bonerp said:
Those buying into fakes....why? Do you know what your money is supporting? ISIS for example. Or slavery, or prostitution and child abuse?? Or do you just prefer to lie to people about how your life has turned out?

To me, being able to walk into a Rolex dealer on the day I am finally able to, to order a Daytona and having to wait for it, kind of increases the anticipation and when it arrives I will as proud as punch that hard honest work has earned me it.

I've never bought so much as a fake Nike t-shirt and thats how I'm raising my daughter. The only time you buy into brands is when you can afford to. Otherwise stick to primark or Sports Direct. I did once inadvertently buy a fake football shirt (from GroupOn funnily enough) and it immediately got returned.

Edited by bonerp on Monday 26th November 10:19
I have a real Rolex GMT2 and when in Thailand bought a fake one so I could wear the design out whilst not worrying about it getting stolen/damaged

Talking about ISIS and slave child labour may be true but also might be a load of bks- you think your Bangladesh or China made clothing is made by well paid innocents? Did you post on an iPhone made by battery farming Chinese?

When I bought my fake Rolex I was supporting a very poor street trader who relies on tourism to live so I have no guilt

Rolex who carry tax dodge status in Switzerland probably help fund more dodgy people through helping prop up a corrupt Swiss banking system than a few fake watches.

Edited by Pommy on Monday 26th November 11:22
Do you think someone who wants your watch will check out whether its a fake or just cut you up to get it?
Do you read The Daily Mail? You do don’t you. I bet your favourite bit is where they let you know how much the house is worth.

Firstly I’ve been mugged - guess what, they took £20 and a fake Breitling. It wasn’t some massive scooter-stabby episode, it was a subtle ask. Easy, there you go mate, all good...

Secondly, some people shouldn’t get their insights of the worlds terrorist funding methods from the intro to the copyright clip at the front of Dvd’s C.1995.

Thirdly, homages and fakes are no different but that’s a different discussion.







Voldemort

3,638 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Pommy said:
Thirdly, homages and fakes are no different but that’s a different discussion.
Yes they are.

A 'homage' is a copy of somebody else's hard work in design but it will not be branded as the genuine item. See, for example, the Steinhart Ocean One. It might look A LOT like somebody else's work but nowhere on the watch, box or papers does it say 'Rolex'.

A fake is made to deceive people that the watch is something it is not. [If priced at £20 it might not fool the FIRST buyer, but is designed to fool other people into thinking it's an original, and gives the first buyer the opportunity to pass the watch off as genuine in the second hand market. Why would a fake watch need a fake box and fake papers otherwise?

devnull

1,887 posts

93 months

Tuesday 27th November
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bonerp said:
To me, being able to walk into a Rolex dealer on the day I am finally able to, to order a Daytona and having to wait for it, kind of increases the anticipation and when it arrives I will as proud as punch that hard honest work has earned me it.
Good luck with that. Are you aware of Daytona (and popular Rolex models in general) waiting lists?

You best walk into an AD today in anticipation of being able to proudly walk in and get one in maybe 6 years, if you’re even able to get on a waiting list?



Lorne

442 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Pommy said:
There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe
There are two types of post that are guaranteed to elicit a whole heap of polar opposite opinions, arguments and justifications; the 'I bought a fake' post and the 'rolex are only worn by chavs' type post. You've done the first so why not go the whole hog and post something saying you don't wear your Rolex anymore as you've noticed the only other people wearing them appear somewhat brash with a liking for Burberry and flashing wads of cash.

bonerp

139 posts

175 months

Tuesday 27th November
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devnull said:
bonerp said:
To me, being able to walk into a Rolex dealer on the day I am finally able to, to order a Daytona and having to wait for it, kind of increases the anticipation and when it arrives I will as proud as punch that hard honest work has earned me it.
Good luck with that. Are you aware of Daytona (and popular Rolex models in general) waiting lists?

You best walk into an AD today in anticipation of being able to proudly walk in and get one in maybe 6 years, if you’re even able to get on a waiting list?
guess you missed this piece "I am finally able to, to order a Daytona and having to wait for it"

I am waiting....12 months in now! And I certainly won't buy some stty fake in the meantime. ;-p
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Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Voldemort said:
Pommy said:
Thirdly, homages and fakes are no different but that’s a different discussion.
Yes they are.

A 'homage' is a copy of somebody else's hard work in design but it will not be branded as the genuine item. See, for example, the Steinhart Ocean One. It might look A LOT like somebody else's work but nowhere on the watch, box or papers does it say 'Rolex'.

A fake is made to deceive people that the watch is something it is not. [If priced at £20 it might not fool the FIRST buyer, but is designed to fool other people into thinking it's an original, and gives the first buyer the opportunity to pass the watch off as genuine in the second hand market. Why would a fake watch need a fake box and fake papers otherwise?
No they’re no different and they basically rip off another design with almost no changes beyond the name in the face - they are no different to the rip off Chinese cars that don’t say Land Rover but look the same as an evoque.

They just give the sense of legitimacy.

You buy a homage you’re no different from a buyer of a fake - the makers haven’t licensed it or sought permission and they are designed to look like the original design they are based on.


Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Lorne said:
Pommy said:
There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe
There are two types of post that are guaranteed to elicit a whole heap of polar opposite opinions, arguments and justifications; the 'I bought a fake' post and the 'rolex are only worn by chavs' type post. You've done the first so why not go the whole hog and post something saying you don't wear your Rolex anymore as you've noticed the only other people wearing them appear somewhat brash with a liking for Burberry and flashing wads of cash.
Well I’m not here to troll, just my opinion/experience.

I’m not the snob so why would I stop wearing it.

You seem to be the one with the issue not me.

BrabusMog

12,677 posts

122 months

Tuesday 27th November
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We went to Side in Turkey earlier in the year and the amount of counterfeit stuff was sheerly jaw dropping. There were entire shopping malls all just selling fake tat!

Out of morbid curiosity I went in to one of the fake watch shops and was shocked at how good the fakes were. I was wearing my Explorer and the only difference was the bracelet felt a bit more flimsy than mine, but not noticeably so if I hadn't been wearing it on and off for a few years. Not cheap, mind you, they were anything between 85-150 quid and you can get a decent Seiko for that, I know where my money would be going...

Lorne

442 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th November
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[quote=Pommy][quote=Lorne][quote=Pommy]There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe

"You seem to be the one with the issue not me."


Not really. I have to admit to not being keen on fakes as no matter how you phrase or try to justify it, you're actually stealing from the company that makes the original. Would you buy fake brake pads or fake medicines? Would you say 'smart move, doesn't affect anyone' to an airline that bought fake engine parts?

I like Rolex's as well as IWC, Speedmasters and many of the other nice watches. Not keen on fakes though.

Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Lorne said:
Pommy said:
Lorne said:
Pommy said:
There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe

"You seem to be the one with the issue not me."


Not really. I have to admit to not being keen on fakes as no matter how you phrase or try to justify it, you're actually stealing from the company that makes the original. Would you buy fake brake pads or fake medicines? Would you say 'smart move, doesn't affect anyone' to an airline that bought fake engine parts?

I like Rolex's as well as IWC, Speedmasters and many of the other nice watches. Not keen on fakes though.
First fake Rolex are supporting ISIS and now trying toclarify acceptance between a clothing accessory and life saving/affecting brake pads, medicine and airline parts.

Jesus wept.

Oh and stealing from the company that makes the original? Because Steinhart aren't doing that are they...

Last time I checked I wasn't choosing between spending $50 on a fake or sending that instead to Rolex.

I would think more people have bought real luxury brand watches off the back of having had a fake and want the original than have chosen a fake over buying an original when they could have done. Some brands love having fakes as it drives their visibility and sales - if they're not being copied they're nothing. And I say some, not all.



Edited by Pommy on Tuesday 27th November 10:14

ruprechtmonkeyboy

270 posts

23 months

Tuesday 27th November
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It's always a certain type of person that wears a fake watch. Why not work a bit harder so you can afford the real thing?

GT03ROB

6,716 posts

157 months

Tuesday 27th November
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ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
It's always a certain type of person that wears a fake watch. Why not work a bit harder so you can afford the real thing?
What sort of person is that then?

Hoofy

67,889 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th November
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GT03ROB said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
It's always a certain type of person that wears a fake watch. Why not work a bit harder so you can afford the real thing?
What sort of person is that then?
Those with at least one hand.

Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Hoofy said:
GT03ROB said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
It's always a certain type of person that wears a fake watch. Why not work a bit harder so you can afford the real thing?
What sort of person is that then?
Those with at least one hand.
What happens if they only have a fake hand?


Lorne

442 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Pommy said:
Lorne said:
Pommy said:
Lorne said:
Pommy said:
There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe

"You seem to be the one with the issue not me."


Not really. I have to admit to not being keen on fakes as no matter how you phrase or try to justify it, you're actually stealing from the company that makes the original. Would you buy fake brake pads or fake medicines? Would you say 'smart move, doesn't affect anyone' to an airline that bought fake engine parts?

I like Rolex's as well as IWC, Speedmasters and many of the other nice watches. Not keen on fakes though.
First fake Rolex are supporting ISIS and now trying toclarify acceptance between a clothing accessory and life saving/affecting brake pads, medicine and airline parts.

Jesus wept.

Oh and stealing from the company that makes the original? Because Steinhart aren't doing that are they...

Last time I checked I wasn't choosing between spending $50 on a fake or sending that instead to Rolex.

I would think more people have bought real luxury brand watches off the back of having had a fake and want the original than have chosen a fake over buying an original when they could have done. Some brands love having fakes as it drives their visibility and sales - if they're not being copied they're nothing. And I say some, not all.



Edited by Pommy on Tuesday 27th November 10:14
Still trying to come up with a way of justifying stealing then

liner33

7,275 posts

138 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Voldemort said:
Pommy said:
Thirdly, homages and fakes are no different but that’s a different discussion.
Yes they are.

A 'homage' is a copy of somebody else's hard work in design but it will not be branded as the genuine item. See, for example, the Steinhart Ocean One. It might look A LOT like somebody else's work but nowhere on the watch, box or papers does it say 'Rolex'.

A fake is made to deceive people that the watch is something it is not. [If priced at £20 it might not fool the FIRST buyer, but is designed to fool other people into thinking it's an original, and gives the first buyer the opportunity to pass the watch off as genuine in the second hand market. Why would a fake watch need a fake box and fake papers otherwise?
I think the key you said there is to deceive people , I have no issues with fakes or homages, most fakes I have seen are pretty poor and might fool someone when on the wrist not when when they take a close look at it, kinda like fake designer handbags look ok on outside open them up and its obvious. Fake watches sold as the real thing that can easily pass as the real thing and go for proper money does alarm me. So fakes not so much of an issue but GOOD fakes are

I'm in the market for a Panerai but buying used due to some really decent fakes worries me a lot so much that I may not risk it.

I don't understand why people get so upset though if someone wants to buy a fake and are aware that it is so be it.

Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Lorne said:
Pommy said:
Lorne said:
Pommy said:
Lorne said:
Pommy said:
There’s some hilarious responses on here hehe

"You seem to be the one with the issue not me."


Not really. I have to admit to not being keen on fakes as no matter how you phrase or try to justify it, you're actually stealing from the company that makes the original. Would you buy fake brake pads or fake medicines? Would you say 'smart move, doesn't affect anyone' to an airline that bought fake engine parts?

I like Rolex's as well as IWC, Speedmasters and many of the other nice watches. Not keen on fakes though.
First fake Rolex are supporting ISIS and now trying toclarify acceptance between a clothing accessory and life saving/affecting brake pads, medicine and airline parts.

Jesus wept.

Oh and stealing from the company that makes the original? Because Steinhart aren't doing that are they...

Last time I checked I wasn't choosing between spending $50 on a fake or sending that instead to Rolex.

I would think more people have bought real luxury brand watches off the back of having had a fake and want the original than have chosen a fake over buying an original when they could have done. Some brands love having fakes as it drives their visibility and sales - if they're not being copied they're nothing. And I say some, not all.



Edited by Pommy on Tuesday 27th November 10:14
Still trying to come up with a way of justifying stealing then
I don't have to justify anything. I haven't stolen anything.

Definition 'stealing': take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

You are literally stating it incorrectly.



Foliage

3,521 posts

58 months

Tuesday 27th November
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liner33 said:
I don't understand why people get so upset though if someone wants to buy a fake and are aware that it is so be it.
Because those people misrepresent themselves, they wear a fake rolex, drive a 15yo audi with a private plate, everything about them is fake, they want to be something but fail to grasp how to do it.

Also paying £80 for a fake rolex is hilarious, im wearing a sub homage, you paid £70 extra for the fake name... That's £70 you could have put towards buying a real rolex.



Edited by Foliage on Tuesday 27th November 11:15

Lorne

442 posts

38 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Pommy said:
I don't have to justify anything. I haven't stolen anything.

Definition 'stealing': take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

You are literally stating it incorrectly.
You've knowingly stolen Rolex's intellectual property and their copyrighted design.

Pommy

9,277 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th November
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Lorne said:
Pommy said:
I don't have to justify anything. I haven't stolen anything.

Definition 'stealing': take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

You are literally stating it incorrectly.
You've knowingly stolen Rolex's intellectual property and their copyrighted design.
Ah I should have bought a homage and then I would be merely being reverential.

Paid £5k for a GMT2 - reckon Rolex are the ones who are stealing...