Buying my first ever Rolex ..... Please advise ....

Buying my first ever Rolex ..... Please advise ....

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Shrimpvende

858 posts

92 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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raihaan123 said:
Thank you so much. Have an appointment Saturday definitely always loved the two tone subs.

Did you have to drop a 20% deposit for waiting list etc? Or is this dealer specific
No deposit required - my dad just told them that I'd always wanted one and had a small collection of watches but was getting upset that everyone had told me I couldn't have one etc...

When the call came the AD said something along the lines of 'the people in front of you on the list either didn't want it anymore or couldn't get here quick enough so we took a chance on you as we thought you seemed genuine'. This seems to tie up with other people's experiences.

When you say 2 tone sub - you mean black and gold? I know an AD that had one at the end of April and may still have it if so - PM me if interested.

raihaan123

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20 posts

59 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Shrimpvende said:
No deposit required - my dad just told them that I'd always wanted one and had a small collection of watches but was getting upset that everyone had told me I couldn't have one etc...

When the call came the AD said something along the lines of 'the people in front of you on the list either didn't want it anymore or couldn't get here quick enough so we took a chance on you as we thought you seemed genuine'. This seems to tie up with other people's experiences.

When you say 2 tone sub - you mean black and gold? I know an AD that had one at the end of April and may still have it if so - PM me if interested.
Thank you so much

Given me a bit more hope for my visit on Saturday to Fraser Hart.

Let’s see how it goes I’ll definitely explain the situation I’m in.

The standard steel/ gold and blue dial I am after

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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People spend over 20k on a rolex?
I though it was more 5k-10k.

20k i'd be looking at pre-owned Holy Trinity tbh.

Also, no time for the marketing game Rolex plays.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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raihaan123 said:
The standard steel/ gold and blue dial I am after
So not a pepsi, batman or Sky Dweller or discontinued gold and ruby?

Good luck with deciding at the dealer.

andyman_2006

723 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Zoon said:
raihaan123 said:
The standard steel/ gold and blue dial I am after
So not a pepsi, batman or Sky Dweller or discontinued gold and ruby?

Good luck with deciding at the dealer.
OP - if your really wanting to get the AD to take you serious, they'll expect you to have some focus on which specific model that is floating your boat, the manager of my AD made it clear it was not great to be asking for supply of several models or well anything steel sports not having a focus on what you like and asking to be placed on a list for several wasn't looked on well, and as such advised it was better to focus on a specific model - for me i was looking at both the Hulk and Batman - didn't mind which it was i was offered, but they insisted i only complete the expression of interest form for one model, so i made my mind up chose the GMT batman, and thats what i got. Its hard because you cant try on stock, so it could be worth visiting a WF to do your research, then hit the AD when you know what you want?

Just an idea.

Andy

raihaan123

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20 posts

59 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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andyman_2006 said:
OP - if your really wanting to get the AD to take you serious, they'll expect you to have some focus on which specific model that is floating your boat, the manager of my AD made it clear it was not great to be asking for supply of several models or well anything steel sports not having a focus on what you like and asking to be placed on a list for several wasn't looked on well, and as such advised it was better to focus on a specific model - for me i was looking at both the Hulk and Batman - didn't mind which it was i was offered, but they insisted i only complete the expression of interest form for one model, so i made my mind up chose the GMT batman, and thats what i got. Its hard because you cant try on stock, so it could be worth visiting a WF to do your research, then hit the AD when you know what you want?

Just an idea.

Andy
Thanks Andy great idea.

I’ll visit on Friday then visit the AD on a Saturday with hopes of having mind made up for definite.

Will keep you posted smile


gentlemanwatchcollector

30 posts

152 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Hang On said:
Not all white gold is created equally. Rolex make their own alloy, techically a grey gold I suppose, with no plating. It is a uniform colour throughout and will not discolour over time.
Daytona in white gold on leather is a good compromise (I know word compromise seems silly with such a nice piece). The problem with the bracelet model is as noted the softer metal gets scratched up easily. As a sports watch it therefore looks rough quickly. Same for the bracelet which cannot be polished. The alligator strap gives the watch character, doesn't scratch and can be swapped according to the look! They are also much cheaper!

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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I would personally advise taking a first leap at £12k rather than £36k.

Personally the story doesn’t quite ring true to me, but I’m happy to be proven wrong.

Good luck OP - just be sure what you actually want.

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Tony1963 said:
AD games?

You’re blaming the ADs for having zero stock of the popular watches?
Yes.
Rolex are to blame for creating the shortage. They could easily increase production if they desired by reducing production of less popular lines.

The ADs are using this to play games where you need to satisfy some obscure previous purchase/brown nosing/worthy customer criteria to get on their (non-existent?) lists.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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OP, they've just opened a huge Rolex shop in the Dubai Mall, use some of your cash for a weekend shopping trip to somewhere you will have plenty of choice, rather than limiting your choice to what the local dealer can get.

Make buying your Rolex really memorable.

Carl_Manchester

12,196 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Hang On said:
Not all white gold is created equally. Rolex make their own alloy, techically a grey gold I suppose, with no plating. It is a uniform colour throughout and will not discolour over time.
I agree about the alloy, it comes down to how you care and treat a Gold watch of any type.

Modern White Gold rolexes will never discolour if treated properly. I never never actually seen a photo of a real one that has been discoloured.

The owner in question was a sea and swimming pool fan and I would expect mistreated the watch which resulted in the damage on the crown.

The level of WG scratching was the main put off for me as i am a clumsy git. Platinum or bust!

Tony1963

4,758 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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lostkiwi said:
Tony1963 said:
AD games?

You’re blaming the ADs for having zero stock of the popular watches?
Yes.
Rolex are to blame for creating the shortage. They could easily increase production if they desired by reducing production of less popular lines.

The ADs are using this to play games where you need to satisfy some obscure previous purchase/brown nosing/worthy customer criteria to get on their (non-existent?) lists.
Lol. Make your mind up!

And Rolex can’t just up production of popular models to satisfy increased demand. It would require huge investment and potentially lose them money if demand fails off.

Some dealers might be playing games, but what is your solution?

paulguitar

23,412 posts

113 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Tony1963 said:
And Rolex can’t just up production of popular models to satisfy increased demand. It would require huge investment and potentially lose them money if demand fails off.
From what I have read they could very easily increase production of the sports models. They have the infrastructure and colossal cash reserves.

They’re just being dheads.

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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paulguitar said:
Tony1963 said:
And Rolex can’t just up production of popular models to satisfy increased demand. It would require huge investment and potentially lose them money if demand fails off.
From what I have read they could very easily increase production of the sports models. They have the infrastructure and colossal cash reserves.

They’re just being dheads.
Exactly.

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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rofl
Anyone who thinks they can't produce more has some serious blinkers on.

Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Vote with your feet...

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Hoofy said:
Vote with your feet...
It's why I've started supporting the small manufacturers. The sales support is better, there is an inherent level of honesty that's missing from the Rolex AD network and you get some truly interesting well thought out and well made innovative designs instead of the same old design with detail changes.
Sure Rolex are well made and "desirable" but there's a level of arrogance about the brand that really puts me off.
I'm also curious to know (given they're a charity) where the profits from their $5bn annual revenues go....

Tony1963

4,758 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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lostkiwi said:
Sure Rolex are well made and "desirable" but there's a level of arrogance about the brand that really puts me off.
I'm also curious to know (given they're a charity) where the profits from their $5bn annual revenues go....
Says the owner of three Mercs?


Tony1963

4,758 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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ZesPak said:
rofl
Anyone who thinks they can't produce more has some serious blinkers on.
Ok then. Run us through how it happens. Things like recruiting and training the necessary staff, ordering and installing machinery, upping the testing that takes place before release, buying land to house the expanded capability, larger catering facilities, larger car park if needed, etc etc.

And then, once they've successfully cheapened their product by flooding the market with it (many here slag of rolex for the sheer numbers produced, ironically) the demand will begin to drop as Tag Heuer's dropped twenty to thirty years ago.

Naa. Rolex are doing something very right, and they're not in it for the good of anyone here. They're making a shed load of cash, we ain't.

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Tony1963 said:
lostkiwi said:
Sure Rolex are well made and "desirable" but there's a level of arrogance about the brand that really puts me off.
I'm also curious to know (given they're a charity) where the profits from their $5bn annual revenues go....
Says the owner of three Mercs?
And a Smart.
What's your point Mr Porsche owner?