Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

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moneymakestheworldgoaround

4,079 posts

175 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Trafford Centre yesterday...


Anonymous-poster

12,241 posts

206 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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moneymakestheworldgoaround said:
Trafford Centre yesterday...

Who in their right mind would pay the thick end of £18k for a stainless sub!

Dezbo

188 posts

83 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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moneymakestheworldgoaround said:
Trafford Centre yesterday...

Was this at an AD?

Fckitdriveon

1,038 posts

90 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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moneymakestheworldgoaround said:
Trafford Centre yesterday...

2 people paid me a similar price last month for the same watch(s)

Completely agree it’s barmy but if people want something bad enough they will pay. Value is personal and ‘good sense’ and the Rolex market don’t seem to go hand in hand.

Fckitdriveon

1,038 posts

90 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
Not so sure about the Tudor branding
The Beckham connection will have put off a lot of people! Incl me..
I disagree , whilst not to my taste , the beckham connection has been very profitable for the brand.

r159

2,256 posts

74 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
Not so sure about the Tudor branding
The Beckham connection will have put off a lot of people! Incl me..
For me brand ambassadors would only ever put me off rather than encourage me to buy...at the end of the day they are just a paid mannequin... and some do make a very good job of replicating one.

With Tudor I realised why should I care someone thinks I aspire to be(nd) like Beckham...

Not that I have one but they are nice things.

moneymakestheworldgoaround

4,079 posts

175 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Dezbo said:
Was this at an AD?
Of course not, but literally the shop almost facing it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Anonymous-poster said:
Who in their right mind would pay the thick end of £18k for a stainless sub!
I wouldn't pay £18 for a Hulk never mind £18k. I think they are absolutely vile.

My accountant wears one, and every time we meet to discuss my accounts, I have to sit there looking at it on his wrist across the desk, and it just makes me think vomit

It's just so incredibly green.

Louis Balfour

26,271 posts

222 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Anonymous-poster said:
Who in their right mind would pay the thick end of £18k for a stainless sub!
I wouldn't pay £18 for a Hulk never mind £18k. I think they are absolutely vile.

My accountant wears one, and every time we meet to discuss my accounts, I have to sit there looking at it on his wrist across the desk, and it just makes me think vomit

It's just so incredibly green.
When they first came out they weren't very popular. Ditto the Deep Sea.

Presumably people later thought "hmmmm I considered that watch overdone and tacky when it was launched, but now it has ceased production I am noticing formerly hidden subtle attributes and I find it curiously attractive".



moneymakestheworldgoaround

4,079 posts

175 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
I wouldn't pay £18 for a Hulk never mind £18k. I think they are absolutely vile.

My accountant wears one, and every time we meet to discuss my accounts, I have to sit there looking at it on his wrist across the desk, and it just makes me think vomit

It's just so incredibly green.
I'd buy one at the list price.... hehe

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
When they first came out they weren't very popular. Ditto the Deep Sea.

Presumably people later thought "hmmmm I considered that watch overdone and tacky when it was launched, but now it has ceased production I am noticing formerly hidden subtle attributes and I find it curiously attractive".
Funny how that happens with Rolex models isn’t it?

It’s almost like many people are buying them to make money on, or to flip, rather than actually buying them as a watch to simply wear, enjoy, and own for years...

Flying machine

1,132 posts

176 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Funny how that happens with Rolex models isn’t it?

It’s almost like many people are buying them to make money on, or to flip, rather than actually buying them as a watch to simply wear, enjoy, and own for years...
Many, but not all. I have one Rolex - a Hulk that I bought at list in 2013 having seen it in the window of Hamilton and Inches in Edinburgh. I love it! So much so that I decided to keep it even though I've been offered what many would consider a decent amount of cash to sell. I'm with your accountant - embrace the green!

TarquinMX5

1,937 posts

80 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Gawd, is this thread STILL running, isn't it all a little tedious?

It's about time somebody started a Timex thread.

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

60 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Ninjin said:
Tudor has always been a 'Diffusion' range of the main Brand Rolex. This is how it is now and how it was from the beginning.

I'm have no problem having Tudor as well as Rolex (and others) in my collection, variety is the spice of life.

Don't see why we need all the hate shown towards Tudor... It's well made watch, sold at a price that is reasonable for what you get.

I don't expect to make money if I sell my Tudors but then again, I have never bought any of my collection as a point of investment. I buy them (the watches in my collection) cause I like them and I really mean 'I' like them, not just what social media tells me what I should be liking.
I was only vaguely aware of Tudor before this thread and had no idea that they were part of Rolex.

What’s different about them that distinguishes the two brands, other than the branding.

I agree with the comment by Algarve, those particular two in the matching colours do look virtually identical, which seems a bit strange.

Algarve

2,102 posts

81 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Kent Border Kenny said:
I agree with the comment by Algarve, those particular two in the matching colours do look virtually identical, which seems a bit strange.
You'd get laughed at if you posted in a motoring forum that an Audi TT looks like a v10 R8. Or a Boxster looks like a 911 Turbo S.

But for people not into cars / watches, it is right on the money. Even if people spending a fortune on them can't admit it

To someone not into watches, it would be completely believable to them if you told them you bought that Tudor off a bloke on the beach in Tenerife.

bigandclever

13,775 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Algarve said:
To someone not into watches, it would be completely believable to them if you told them you bought that Tudor off a bloke on the beach in Tenerife.
But definitely, definitely not the rolex(es), right?

Algarve said:
I'm not sneering at anyone at all.
laugh

Gazzab

21,090 posts

282 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Kent Border Kenny said:
I was only vaguely aware of Tudor before this thread and had no idea that they were part of Rolex.

What’s different about them that distinguishes the two brands, other than the branding.

I agree with the comment by Algarve, those particular two in the matching colours do look virtually identical, which seems a bit strange.
It’s a terrible picture and it makes them look more similar than they really are.
Here is a Rolex gmt and the blue 41 tudor.
Similar blue colour but ones a gmt and ones a dive watch. One has snowflake hands, the other doesn’t. One has a date the other doesn’t. One has a crown guard the other doesn’t. One has 4 hands the other has 3. Etc etc. They only look similar in that they are both steel sports watches with some blue.

Algarve

2,102 posts

81 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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edit - someone replied as I did, response is to bignclever a post above.

The Tudor looks like its been made entirely to look like the Rolex, apart from the brand name stuck to it. Thats my point.

I think anyones clutching at straws arguing that they're massively different watches visually. They're near carbon copies to someone who doesn't hang about on watch forums all day or consider 'watches' as their hobby.

ddom

6,657 posts

48 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Algarve said:
edit - someone replied as I did, response is to bignclever a post above.

The Tudor looks like its been made entirely to look like the Rolex, apart from the brand name stuck to it. Thats my point.

I think anyones clutching at straws arguing that they're massively different watches visually. They're near carbon copies to someone who doesn't hang about on watch forums all day or consider 'watches' as their hobby.
It just doesn't. And as the sister company to Rolex it's hardly a surprise to see them use elements which make the watch legible. What's your issue with either brand?

You're just a snob.

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

60 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Algarve said:
You'd get laughed at if you posted in a motoring forum that an Audi TT looks like a v10 R8. Or a Boxster looks like a 911 Turbo S.

But for people not into cars / watches, it is right on the money. Even if people spending a fortune on them can't admit it.
I’d find it very hard to believe it if anyone claimed that one of the two was not designed with the other one sitting on the designer’s desk.

It’d be like Chrysler designing a car that many people mistook for a Bentley.

On thé buying to make a profit point, I’ve not once bought intending to sell, but it did make the buying decision a little easier knowing that I’d not lose a fortune if I went off one.
Mas it happens I don’t like the steel Daytona that I bought in an airport shop, as I don’t like the dark face, but will probably get it customized rather than selling it, possibly get the bezel in black and face in yellow.