Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

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CoolHands

20,780 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th June
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Sy1441 said:
Getting weekly offers of watches at the moment.
Haha how embarrassing. Tell them you’ll add their name to your list, and contact them if they’re lucky.

Buster73

5,342 posts

168 months

Thursday 19th June
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CoolHands said:
Sy1441 said:
Getting weekly offers of watches at the moment.
Haha how embarrassing. Tell them you ll add their name to your list, and contact them if they re lucky.
Had an interesting conversation a few years ago with a SA at my local AD , he told me I was very fortunate to get some of the watches I had bought from there.

I stopped him in his tracks and told him quite firmly that both he and his store were very fortunate to have me spend my money with them.

The penny didn’t drop immediately but he got the message.


Jamescrs

5,339 posts

80 months

Friday 20th June
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Buster73 said:
Had an interesting conversation a few years ago with a SA at my local AD , he told me I was very fortunate to get some of the watches I had bought from there.

I stopped him in his tracks and told him quite firmly that both he and his store were very fortunate to have me spend my money with them.

The penny didn t drop immediately but he got the message.
I imagine at this point there are a number of sales assistants in the AD's who have only known what it has been like for the last 3-4 years so probably don't remember a time when they were offering discounts on watches and think it is the norm for people to be gratefull to purchase from them

Shnozz

29,009 posts

286 months

Friday 20th June
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CoolHands said:
Sy1441 said:
Getting weekly offers of watches at the moment.
Haha how embarrassing. Tell them you ll add their name to your list, and contact them if they re lucky.
Quality!

Wills2

26,193 posts

190 months

Friday 20th June
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You're always best advised to be nice to people on the way up as you'll probably see them again on the way down, when they were selling £10 notes for a fiver I can see that they were being good to those that were receiving them and it would show a equal amount of entitlement for the customer not to recognise that. (unless of course they were paying handsomely through the nose on other items to get the watch) which may have been the case.

I remember a customer "telling" me that he'd spent £14 million with me, you have and in return I've given you £14 million worth of goods so I'd say that was a fair exchange.




Bob_Defly

4,772 posts

246 months

Friday 20th June
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Wills2 said:
You're always best advised to be nice to people on the way up as you'll probably see them again on the way down, when they were selling £10 notes for a fiver I can see that they were being good to those that were receiving them and it would show a equal amount of entitlement for the customer not to recognise that. (unless of course they were paying handsomely through the nose on other items to get the watch) which may have been the case.

I remember a customer "telling" me that he'd spent £14 million with me, you have and in return I've given you £14 million worth of goods so I'd say that was a fair exchange.



Which is fine, unless you had preceded it with, "You're lucky I sold you those goods."

Buster73

5,342 posts

168 months

Friday 20th June
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Wills2 said:
You're always best advised to be nice to people on the way up as you'll probably see them again on the way down, when they were selling £10 notes for a fiver I can see that they were being good to those that were receiving them and it would show a equal amount of entitlement for the customer not to recognise that. (unless of course they were paying handsomely through the nose on other items to get the watch) which may have been the case.

I remember a customer "telling" me that he'd spent £14 million with me, you have and in return I've given you £14 million worth of goods so I'd say that was a fair exchange.



I was buying Rolex watches 25 years ago from the same AD , well before the covid lockdown came and demand went through the roof , well before the Shiney suited spivvy salesman turned up and turned his nose up at those who wouldn’t grease his palms , allegedly m’lud you must understand.

Those same sales people who now have to graft and use selling skills they previously didn’t have to try and sell to a diminishing market.

I’d politely suggest it is them that suddenly have to nice to their customers now not the other way round in my case.

yellowtang

1,790 posts

153 months

Saturday 21st June
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Picked this long awaited beauty up today - I didn’t really think it would ever happen with my decent but not crazy spend history. Had a really interesting chat with the salesman regarding the market and he was pretty candid - on many Rolex models he’s having to make a few calls to get the watches sold, but they are still comfortably selling their allocation. I think the market is now in a good place really - most models now selling used under or near list.

Furbo

1,300 posts

47 months

Saturday 21st June
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I ve got a pet Rolex authorised repairer. He was saying during the week that his trade customers are struggling to sell stuff.


Tom1312

1,096 posts

161 months

Saturday 21st June
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My old man's been on a 'list' for 2 years with no purchase history.

Rang last week just on a whim to ask what was happening with his wish list and got a call yesterday for a Sub.

Not sure if that's an indication that reality is returning or not but yeah... Result for him.

Furbo

1,300 posts

47 months

Saturday 21st June
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Tom1312 said:
My old man's been on a 'list' for 2 years with no purchase history.

Rang last week just on a whim to ask what was happening with his wish list and got a call yesterday for a Sub.

Not sure if that's an indication that reality is returning or not but yeah... Result for him.
I suspect that ADs are selling fk all at the moment.


yellowtang

1,790 posts

153 months

Saturday 21st June
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Furbo said:
I suspect that ADs are selling fk all at the moment.
Well there were certainly people buying while I was in the AD today but yes - definitely quieter than I’d have expected of a summer Saturday afternoon. Rolex will be fine, I feel for some of the other brands though…Omega & JLC spring to mind - they raised their prices hugely over the last few years and I imagine they might be struggling a bit with that now…

okgo

40,501 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st June
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Furbo said:
I suspect that ADs are selling fk all at the moment.
I’ve had some grim invite to a Patek evening at a London AD - if they’re sending me that email they’re definitely on their arse. Even if I did want to buy one I cannot imagine the level of helmet that would actually attend an event like that.

Geertsen

1,166 posts

74 months

Saturday 21st June
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Wills2 said:
I remember a customer "telling" me that he'd spent £14 million with me, you have and in return I've given you £14 million worth of goods so I'd say that was a fair exchange.
I’m not sure about that, I’d still say you were the lucky one and agree with your customer. Unless you were selling something where demand was massively outstripping supply. Like Rolex were / are.

don logan

3,733 posts

237 months

Sunday 22nd June
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yellowtang said:


Picked this long awaited beauty up today - I didn t really think it would ever happen with my decent but not crazy spend history. Had a really interesting chat with the salesman regarding the market and he was pretty candid - on many Rolex models he s having to make a few calls to get the watches sold, but they are still comfortably selling their allocation. I think the market is now in a good place really - most models now selling used under or near list.
I had a white dial and I never loved it, it felt like someone else’s watch and looked too dressy for me

But this would be a totally different story, it’s really really nice

Harry Flashman

20,601 posts

257 months

Sunday 22nd June
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Funny - I have a white dial and have asked for a black. If i get the latter, will sell the former - will be the first watch I have ever sold.

Jamescrs

5,339 posts

80 months

Sunday 22nd June
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yellowtang said:
Well there were certainly people buying while I was in the AD today but yes - definitely quieter than I d have expected of a summer Saturday afternoon. Rolex will be fine, I feel for some of the other brands though Omega & JLC spring to mind - they raised their prices hugely over the last few years and I imagine they might be struggling a bit with that now
I think Omega will be fine, they have the whole Swatch group behind them.

Adam.

28,780 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd June
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yellowtang said:


Picked this long awaited beauty up today - I didn t really think it would ever happen with my decent but not crazy spend history. Had a really interesting chat with the salesman regarding the market and he was pretty candid - on many Rolex models he s having to make a few calls to get the watches sold, but they are still comfortably selling their allocation. I think the market is now in a good place really - most models now selling used under or near list.
Lovely congrats, had my white face for 21 years now, cost me $6074 which was about £4500, a daily beater since, with others worn at weekends, even went diving with it

Ber100

154 posts

117 months

Sunday 22nd June
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Planning to pull the trigger on a root beer soon. Any advice on best source? No point in AD as cheaper used anyways in this case.

Thanks in advance


paulguitar

30,254 posts

128 months

Sunday 22nd June
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Ber100 said:
Planning to pull the trigger
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