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Countdown said:
If somebody is wearing a £100 piece of jewellery pretending it’s worth £100,000 that’s going to upset some people who’ve paid out £100,000 for what looks like (and may even be, to all intents and purposes) the same.
Will it? That’s the sort of people I hope not to meet at such events (those wearing expensive watches and paranoid or worried about others wearing less expensive watches). Edited by seastorm on Saturday 15th February 20:13
hotchy said:
You paid £30? I'm sure I used to bring the guy down to 10/15 after a good 10 mins of pretending to walk away lol
haha. TBH, I never knew what they went for.... As I have never been to spain. Just used to see them on my mates when they come back from Spain.
Tell you a funny story...
Was in a shopping centre and I was looking at the Rolex window display, this was around 3yrs ago, so they still had a decent range to show.
A couple in their late 30's join me, looking at the display and they start chatting to each other about which one they like. Then they start commenting on how much they were, £7k, £9 etc etc. Then they started taking pics. Fine, a lot of us do.
Man to Woman: "let me whatsapp this to John, he's in Spain at the moment"
Woman to Man: " I want the £9k one, tell him to get me that one but only if its less than 40Euro......"
NDA said:
El stovey said:
Interesting that it doesn't feature the Rolex logo.
To me looks like a DJ41 case with printed dial to mimick a Sky-D. But so bad it is, that they didn't realise that the Sky-D doesn't have a 12 o'clock marker
Edited by Ninjin on Saturday 15th February 21:13
Edited by Ninjin on Saturday 15th February 21:13
Thesprucegoose said:
Doofus said:
You know this how?
Bootleg items have always been controllerd by organised crime. Who fronts the money for tooling illegal fakes, the banks lol. The Italy Mafia have been doing it for decades now it is the Chinese.They are going to look after your details lol...
Doofus said:
Presenting it as fact, however...
Anyway this is one way they harvest data, if I spent some time I could find more examples.
It is like those people that post stuff over semantics, instead of the actual issues, i.e fake watches fund things pretty unsavoury,buying them you are part of the problem.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/201...
Thesprucegoose said:
Doofus said:
Presenting it as fact, however...
Anyway this is one way they harvest data, if I spent some time I could find more examples.
It is like those people that post stuff over semantics, instead of the actual issues, i.e fake watches fund things pretty unsavoury,buying them you are part of the problem.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/201...
That's a method used for skimming card details from any legitimate merchant site by hacking the site and changing the linked payment processor to be their own - nothing to do with fake watch sites.
If a fake watch site were wanting to skim card details they wouldn't need to use the attack shown in the linked article.
If what you say is true there would be reports of it on the replica watch sites - are there?
lostkiwi said:
Thesprucegoose said:
Doofus said:
Presenting it as fact, however...
Anyway this is one way they harvest data, if I spent some time I could find more examples.
It is like those people that post stuff over semantics, instead of the actual issues, i.e fake watches fund things pretty unsavoury,buying them you are part of the problem.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/201...
That's a method used for skimming card details from any legitimate merchant site by hacking the site and changing the linked payment processor to be their own - nothing to do with fake watch sites.
If a fake watch site were wanting to skim card details they wouldn't need to use the attack shown in the linked article.
If what you say is true there would be reports of it on the replica watch sites - are there?
Imagine pulling the trigger on one of these only to later find out it was a fake 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGuJAJ0I1Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGuJAJ0I1Cg
Leylandeye said:
An easy way to spot a fake trying to pretend to be the real thing is that the wearer seems to make a point of wearing the watch very low down their wrist, almost on their hand.
That assumes the people who buy the real thing are not buying the watch to brag. That is almost certainly true for many high end brands, but far less so for other brands.
I'll not name any brands as examples......because I don't need to. The clue might be is in which brands are most faked.
I think whether someone is comfortable wearing a fake is a matter of personal opinion.
What concerns me is the effect high quality £400 fakes are having on the second hand market for genuine watches. I buy nice watches to enjoy not as investments, but I justify the cost to myself because I believe I will be able to get a reasonable proportion of my money back if I need/want to sell them.
I would be very nervous about buying a used watch now even from a reputable dealer and I think others feel the same - consequently I'm worried that the value of my existing genuine watches will suffer, which also makes me think twice about buying any more.
What concerns me is the effect high quality £400 fakes are having on the second hand market for genuine watches. I buy nice watches to enjoy not as investments, but I justify the cost to myself because I believe I will be able to get a reasonable proportion of my money back if I need/want to sell them.
I would be very nervous about buying a used watch now even from a reputable dealer and I think others feel the same - consequently I'm worried that the value of my existing genuine watches will suffer, which also makes me think twice about buying any more.
Seight_Returns said:
I would be very nervous about buying a used watch now even from a reputable dealer and I think others feel the same - consequently I'm worried that the value of my existing genuine watches will suffer, which also makes me think twice about buying any more.
You’re absolutely right to be cautious. However going to a reputable dealer is surely OK.
Whilst the fakes have got ever more sophisticated, the analysis into their ‘tells’ (ie the bits the faker got wrong) has also improved.
As long as the dealer isn’t Horology House you’re probably ok....
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