Spot the fake

[Ninjin]

I think we are losing the plot here. I personally buy a watch because I like it. Having to save up for it is part of the journey. I'm not buying it just to flex it's something my heart desires.

In car terms, it's worse than buying a Land Wind X7 cause you can't afford the Evoke.

[Barchettaman]

Lee540 said:

https://www.solidswiss.cd/rolex-submariner-ss-blac...

Think it could be possible to be fooled by one of these.. includes box and ‘papers’

Yeah, you’ve got to get the caseback off and know what you’re looking for as there are very few ‘tells’ even with the clone Rolex movements.

[Barchettaman]

Ninjin said:

I think we are losing the plot here. I personally buy a watch because I like it. Having to save up for it is part of the journey. I'm not buying it just to flex it's something my heart desires.

In car terms, it's worse than buying a Land Wind X7 cause you can't afford the Evoke.

If the originals weren’t so stupidly overpriced and unobtainable (Rolex I mean) then there wouldn’t be the market for these superfakes.

[Ninjin]

Barchettaman said:

If the originals weren’t so stupidly overpriced and unobtainable (Rolex I mean) then there wouldn’t be the market for these superfakes.

Ever since the human race has become materialistic, there has been fakes.

Super fakes are not just for premium products. There are fakes of £60 retail g-shocks and other Swiss watches that retail (genuine) as low as £600.

If there is a £ to be made, they'll do it.

You could argue why does a girl spend hundreds on a Chanel perfume when she can spend £3 at aldi on a fragrance.... By spending a lot of one product (Chanel in this example) she can buy into the luxurious lifestyle the brand portrays.

Edited by Ninjin on Friday 24th January 01:33

[Ridealong]

I own an Omega and a Rolex, I got them at an AD and would presume they are the real thing, I wouldn't dare open up the case back just incase I scratch it up.

As for the YouTube video I would guess the one on the right was a fake.

[anonymous-user]

I had a look at a couple of the sites out of interest. I find it hard to believe hat fakes are sold from a French company for example. Also when you add the watch to basket, there is a warning that Visa won’t let you buy from them !
Anyone know of a reputable fake seller, not one of these fake fakers ?
A murky world

[AmosMoses]

Trusty Time is a well known fake store, google them as the web address changes almost every day.

[rich12]

Lee540 said:

https://www.solidswiss.cd/rolex-submariner-ss-blac...

Think it could be possible to be fooled by one of these.. includes box and ‘papers’

They're a lot more than I thought they'd be!
Spending a couple of hundred on a decent replica is fine but circa £1k for a fake watch?

[ollyh1988]

I couldn’t tell the difference - look too similar.

Probably wrong here, but I thought buying a fake product wasn’t totally legal?

[Davey S2]

Ninjin said:

Ever since the human race has become materialistic, there has been fakes.

Super fakes are not just for premium products. There are fakes of £60 retail g-shocks and other Swiss watches that retail (genuine) as low as £600.

If there is a £ to be made, they'll do it.

You could argue why does a girl spend hundreds on a Chanel perfume when she can spend £3 at aldi on a fragrance.... By spending a lot of one product (Chanel in this example) she can buy into the luxurious lifestyle the brand portrays.

Edited by Ninjin on Friday 24th January 01:33

Amazingly you can get a fake Casio F91W.

An original is around £8.

[Rob_R]

I'm not sure I get the point.

£400-£500 actually gets you something decent from another, reputable manufacturer. I think you can get a Baltic Aquascaphe for this kind of money?

Who will service this watch for you ten years down the line? Will the parts for these 'fake' movements be readily available? Just the thought that I'm not wearing the real deal is perhaps enough for me to not buy one.

What if they break? Are they covered by a two-year warranty?

I can think of lots of reasons why you shouldn't buy one of these and hardly any why you should.

Are luxury watches overpriced? Absolutely. But they are a luxury item. Nobody is forcing you to buy them.

[Podie]

Thesprucegoose said:

They really have moved on, the watch is a very new design.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8izNCg4-mgc

Which one is it?

[AmosMoses]

The one on the left for these reasons:

Bezel insert - On the omega the lume isn't recessed into the insert.

Lume pip - On the fake it is too high, needs to be recessed in slightly more.

Dial - On the fake the waves arent deep or wide enough.

[Dolf Stoppard]

Rick101 said:

Where would you buy a 'quality' fake like that?

Plenty on DH Gate / Ali Express.

Here's a £40 IWC I purchased. It turned up on the day I bought the original. I won't say which is which, but it should be fairly easy to spot. Not a bad watch for £40 though!

[Foliage]

I could spot it was the left hand one but that's scarily accurate.


I wear decent but extremely cheap homages these days, and they are extremely good too, a metre away and you wouldn't tell the difference. £60 will get you an amazing sub homage with a Seiko movement.


Its what they do in china though, copy other people st, seagull are robbed swiss movements.

[Barchettaman]

Foliage said:

Its what they do in china though, copy other people st, seagull are robbed swiss movements.

Without wishing to defend the shadier side of Chinese business practices, I think the patent protection of ETA movements has long since expired so basically anyone can copy them.

[gregs656]

Foliage said:

Its what they do in china though, copy other people st, seagull are robbed swiss movements.

Apparently it is what you do too.

[Tomo1971]

I have a fake / replica Pelagos - magnificent piece..... has a clone ETA 2824 movement (remembering that they used to make ETA's in China, so pretty sure they took a copy of the design) and does look and feel very close to the original.

Bought it via a 'Trusted Dealer' that was found on one of the Rep watch forums - yes, such things exist and they 'regulate' or give TD status to three or four chinese dealers.

Took about 10 days to get shipped to the UK.

I have a Chris Ward Trident C60 that is +/- 12 secs a day (in spec) - the Pelagos, is +/- 4 sec - so a, its better than a watch with a genuine Selitta movement and is actually within COSC spec.....

[Tomo1971]

Jimboka said:

I had a look at a couple of the sites out of interest. I find it hard to believe hat fakes are sold from a French company for example. Also when you add the watch to basket, there is a warning that Visa won’t let you buy from them !
Anyone know of a reputable fake seller, not one of these fake fakers ?
A murky world

List of dealers here - I used Trusty Time

https://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/60-rwgs-...

Although not widely advertised, Andrew (sure that is not his real name) will accept PayPal if you ask nicely, rather than faffing with BitCoin. They do accept Visa and although they are reputable in so much as they would lose their TD status on the forums if they ripped you off (bad for business), I have read reports that they can use dodgy card processing merchants - so if you pay be Visa, use a pre-paid card - they then can only take what you load onto it if things did go awry.

[romeodelta]

AmosMoses said:

The one on the left for these reasons:

Bezel insert - On the omega the lume isn't recessed into the insert.

Lume pip - On the fake it is too high, needs to be recessed in slightly more.

Dial - On the fake the waves arent deep or wide enough.

There will always be slight differences, even between 2 genuine watches.

I think the point is it’s very unlikely you would be able to spot it in isolation, or at 6ft on the wrist.