Rolex AD's allocation - is this right?

Rolex AD's allocation - is this right?

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BensZ4MC

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480 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Hi, I have been 1st on the wait list with a London AD for a SS white faced Daytona for just over a year (total wait 4 years....so far). My history with the AD is I have bought 2 rolex's and have 2 more on the wait list. They say in the last year they have received 2 Black face Daytona's and no White faces. Does this sounds right, in terms of allocation for a London Rolex AD?

Ta


NDA

21,550 posts

225 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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From what I know, yes, that sounds about right. 2 a year for the rarer Rolex models for even the largest dealers is generally reported as being accurate.

Ninjin

1,175 posts

75 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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No one knows the answer TBH other than the AD. The white dial SS Daytona is the highest demand out of the whole Rolex range.

Unless the AD really follows his list in order, I doubt you will get one....

Sorry to be bearer of bad news.

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Dear god not again

For a start their is no list, you are being placated to keep you keen. Any watches that have arrived have went to buyers who were already picked before any watch landed.

Buy a Day Date, then collect your Daytona in zip time.

Rolex really are arses for treating people this way, but one look at the second hand flippers market they have created shows how well it is working.

BensZ4MC

Original Poster:

480 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Cheers for the input guys.... I stay in regular contact with my AD and perhaps foolishly have a certain about of trust in them. Time will tell!!

Ninjin

1,175 posts

75 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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offshoreeddy said:
Five years ago I was on the wait for a SS Daytona with a white dial. Went to Dubai on holiday; whilst there walked into Siddiqi's in Atlantis, told them what I wanted - either a black or white dial SS Daytona - and they had both for me to look at two days later, and at less than UK list, still in factory transit packaging.

Just a suggestion - flights to Dubai aren't that expensive.
I doubt that will happen today. Demand was bad enough with the old stianelss bezel, the demand ramped up 10notches with the release of the ceramic bezel.


Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Sorry if that sounded arsey, it was not aimed at you personally , just that this is a daily theme on PH.

Mr Pointy

11,200 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Watchfinder have got 13 of them if you really want one.

BensZ4MC

Original Poster:

480 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Brads67 said:
Sorry if that sounded arsey, it was not aimed at you personally , just that this is a daily theme on PH.
Not at all... I appreciate your feedback. Cheers .

SagMan

622 posts

220 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Without going into too much detail . My knowledge is that AD’a now know what professional watches they will be getting in 2020 and roughly when. Non professional watches can be ordered as usual .

I have one watch to collect this month and one due Q4 if funds permit !

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
Watchfinder have got 13 of them if you really want one.
Seriously, your advise is to pay over double the price for a second hand current model.?

Rolex must love you.

As for watchfinder, jeez don't get me started.

BensZ4MC

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480 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Just fyi - the cheapest I have seen a UK Ceramic Daytona full set is £16k. This is for a Black face.


jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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You’re not first on the list
There is no list
There are bigger fishes than you that will have been given the watches
You are not likely to get a white faced Daytona

They are not likely to effectively hand you £10,000. You have the sales staff wanting them and their families and friends and their best clients that they do regular business with

If you were a salesman you would have to wait your turn as each salesman would have their own clients they want to sell to buy they would go to the ones they know have real money and will be repeat customers


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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SagMan said:
Without going into too much detail . My knowledge is that AD’a now know what professional watches they will be getting in 2020 and roughly when. Non professional watches can be ordered as usual .

I have one watch to collect this month and one due Q4 if funds permit !
Is that a very new thing? Hadn’t heard that before.

The trouble with these threads is that ADs are all doing their own thing so although the OP might be getting honest and accurate advice for his situation, someone else may know a dealer that is doing something completely different with sought after watches.

The only dealer I half know is a colleague’s school friend. He said he just gave them to people he knew but it was actually mates etc not just people who’d bought other watches from him.

Proof of it was that my mate and other workmates have ended up getting hard to get watches from him with no previous buying history at all.

I suppose id imagine what would I do if I was running a dealership. You’ve got long lists of people wanting to buy Rolexes and then your friend wants one, would you sell it to someone you didn’t really know or to your friend etc.

They’ve pretty much got a captive market with buyers phoning them up and popping in all the time and can do what they want tbh.

rosetank

634 posts

50 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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As an aside I popped into Rolex at T5 today. I was just killing some time and got into the usual conversation with the guys. I was told how great Rolex were and if they had a case full of Daytona’s that they wouldn’t sell. The arrogance of them is quite remarkable and again, they seem to trot out the line ‘if you’re not on the list..’. I was also told that it’s because they’re such high quality that there are none about..this poor chap must have come straight from a supermarket? Anyway, hoping to find something I like in one of the places I’ll be venturing out to in the coming months. Should of purchased the Batman GMT when I had the chance a while back. You live and learn!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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rosetank said:
As an aside I popped into Rolex at T5 today. I was just killing some time and got into the usual conversation with the guys. I was told how great Rolex were and if they had a case full of Daytona’s that they wouldn’t sell. The arrogance of them is quite remarkable and again, they seem to trot out the line ‘if you’re not on the list..’. I was also told that it’s because they’re such high quality that there are none about..this poor chap must have come straight from a supermarket? Anyway, hoping to find something I like in one of the places I’ll be venturing out to in the coming months. Should of purchased the Batman GMT when I had the chance a while back. You live and learn!
I went there a while ago and it was empty and nothing on display, I went into a watches of Switzerland nearby which was fantastic and had loads of great watches and fantastic and friendly sales people. I thought it was a great little shop. Obviously not much good if you want a Rolex though.

rosetank

634 posts

50 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Absolutely, lots of really interesting things in Watches of Switzerland for sure. The Rolex place said they get 300+ requests for the usual things, I suggested a sign on the window biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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rosetank said:
Absolutely, lots of really interesting things in Watches of Switzerland for sure. The Rolex place said they get 300+ requests for the usual things, I suggested a sign on the window biggrin
Like the old no Irish signs?

Maybe they’ll all get those displays models with no movements that are appearing in ADs

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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El stovey said:
Like the old no Irish signs?

Maybe they’ll all get those displays models with no movements that are appearing in ADs
Except it would be a "No Chinese" sign on a Rolex dealer over here.

4321go

638 posts

187 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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Rolex in T5 IS Watches of Switzerland. Yes, the Rolex franchise has it’s own, separate site, but they’re both WoS set-ups.

Last time I looked, all of the sales staff in the Rolex franchise were wearing SS tool watches. I was dropping my SS Daytona in for repairs (the THIRD time that it’s “failed to proceed”). Well used, I bought it new from the AD in Windsor about 17 years ago. Of my four half-decent watches, it’s probably the one I’m least precious about, so it takes a bit of a beating.

The late-twenties/early-thirties shop assistant, wearing his ceramic Hulk, was almost sneering as he noted the dings and scratches on the servicing sheet. I wasn’t at all impressed.

I left the jumped-up little twot to spend the rest of his day working behind a shop counter and walked off to skipper my airliner for the rest of mine.