Anyone know about these gold coins?

Anyone know about these gold coins?

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Phooey

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12,600 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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I think my dad was a pirate. Looking through one of his drawers I found some treasure. I know absolutely nothing about coins but biting them they appear to be made out of gold. Before my mum sticks them in her purse with her other shrapnel is it worth finding out anything about them? A quick Google says they are sovereigns. The question is are they just standard sovereigns or should I send her off in an UBER to Antiques Roadshow?

Thanks smile








nikaiyo2

4,728 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Lol

They look like gold sovereigns and half sovs…. Worth about £280 each ish (£140 ish for the half’s!)

Sooo do not let your mum put them in the parking meter biggrin

Phooey

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12,600 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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nikaiyo2 said:
Sooo do not let your mum put them in the parking meter biggrin
hehe

That probably explains now why the grandkids always want to go to nana's house to get some money for sweeties laugh

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Before any individual coins are proven rare and more valuable there’s probably £10k worth there. Probably best kept in a small safe and make sure insurers are aware and sum insured is adequate.

markj113

169 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Atkinsons are currently offering £303 for a full sov and £151 for a half.
https://atkinsonsbullion.com/sell-to-us/gold-coins

May be worth checking with Chards because I had an email a week or two ago saying they were offering full spot price on sovs.

Also note the "Shield" back sovereigns go for more money than standard george and the dragon sov

Edited by markj113 on Saturday 11th September 16:25

nikaiyo2

4,728 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Phooey said:
hehe

That probably explains now why the grandkids always want to go to nana's house to get some money for sweeties laugh
Lol expensive sweets wink at least sovereigns don’t have a face value, Britannias have a face value, a 1oz coin worth £1300 ish has a face value of £100.

It might be worth contacting one of the coin dealers to see if any are worth more than bullion value.

Bullion by post will buy at bullion value and you will likely get better value from them than local auction houses

Phooey

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12,600 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Thanks for replies.

We won't be selling them until my mum needs some more money for gin. In fact I quite like the idea of keeping hold of them so will probably buy them off her. I was more interested in if they were any kind of special sovereign - will check for the shield type, thanks smile


dartissimus

938 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Check the dates, some years have a lot more value.

Also if they have a letter above the date, it denotes they were made somewhere other than London; Australia, Canada or India.
These are also worth more.

The ones with links attached are scrap only unless the links can be removed without damaging the milling.

Keep an eye on gold prices, there can be quite a variation in prices

Phooey

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12,600 posts

169 months

Sunday 12th September 2021
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dartissimus said:
Check the dates, some years have a lot more value.

Also if they have a letter above the date, it denotes they were made somewhere other than London; Australia, Canada or India.
These are also worth more.

The ones with links attached are scrap only unless the links can be removed without damaging the milling.

Keep an eye on gold prices, there can be quite a variation in prices
Thank you. Interesting point re links attached.. is removal of these best left to a jeweller or could anyone with a decent mini-pliers kit be able to gently snip them off? I'll try and (online) research the dates too beer


46and2

761 posts

33 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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I don't know much, but the scratches and lack of holders suggest they are circulation coins, proof coins would likely hold more value for collectors. So Bullion grade and value unless there are rare dates.

Lovely collection though, I would love to hold all of those in my hand! biggrin

ecain63

10,588 posts

175 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Interesting that a pair of halfs in your pics were worn as earrings. I've never seen them used for that before and i've been in the trade 14 years. Different!!

46and2

761 posts

33 months

Tuesday 14th September 2021
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ecain63 said:
Interesting that a pair of halfs in your pics were worn as earrings. I've never seen them used for that before and i've been in the trade 14 years. Different!!
I think that was a Victorian fashion, I've heard of it before. Flaunt your wealth and all that!


MortyC137

2,988 posts

139 months

Tuesday 14th September 2021
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Phooey said:
is removal of these best left to a jeweller or could anyone with a decent mini-pliers kit be able to gently snip them off?
I'd hold a soldering iron onto the links and melt them off, then get some desoldering braid to mop up with. It's very likely any solder used to attach them will be lead or silver based, and have a much lower melting point than gold, and I don't think any soldering iron I've seen would go high enough to do any damage, so should be quite safe.

Actually, I wouldn't, as I quite like the earrings and pendant. Keep them like that smile

Phooey

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12,600 posts

169 months

Friday 17th September 2021
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MortyC137 said:
I'd hold a soldering iron onto the links and melt them off, then get some desoldering braid to mop up with. It's very likely any solder used to attach them will be lead or silver based, and have a much lower melting point than gold, and I don't think any soldering iron I've seen would go high enough to do any damage, so should be quite safe.

Actually, I wouldn't, as I quite like the earrings and pendant. Keep them like that smile
Sorry, missed your reply. Thanks for advice. You never know.. might come back in fashion one day biggrin

TorqueDirty

1,500 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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A few nice early Victoria sovereigns there and worth some money for sure. Previous post saying that the ear ring ones are scrap is possibly true - but scrap gold is still valuable of course.

Don't clean them I'd suggest. Condition is pretty important for coins and badly cleaned coins lose value.

I dug these two up a couple of years ago. Just wiped them with a cloth and that was it.

Bit older than yours and worth a few quid - but I won't sell them. Lovely things.







Edited by TorqueDirty on Tuesday 21st September 09:26

46and2

761 posts

33 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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TorqueDirty said:
A few nice early Victoria sovereigns there and worth some money for sure. Previous post saying that the ear ring ones are scrap is possibly true - but scrap gold is still valuable of course.

Don't clean them I'd suggest. Condition is pretty important for coins and badly cleaned coins lose value.

I dig these two up a couple of years ago. Just wiped them with a cloth and that was it.

Bit older than yours and worth a few quid - bit I won't sell them. Lovely things.



Were these metal detector finds? Amazing!

TorqueDirty

1,500 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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46and2 said:
Were these metal detector finds? Amazing!
Yup.

Made a nice change from the usual ring pulls that's for sure! Probably the most valuable coins I have found, but not the most attractive. I think that award has to go with this lovely 1640 Charles 1st 40 pence piece.






46and2

761 posts

33 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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TorqueDirty said:
Yup.

Made a nice change from the usual ring pulls that's for sure! Probably the most valuable coins I have found, but not the most attractive. I think that award has to go with this lovely 1640 Charles 1st 40 pence piece.





I love the ambition on that coin, King of Scotland, England, France and Ireland. All of them Charles? In totality? Really? biggrin

Phooey

Original Poster:

12,600 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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TorqueDirty said:
A few nice early Victoria sovereigns there and worth some money for sure. Previous post saying that the ear ring ones are scrap is possibly true - but scrap gold is still valuable of course.

Don't clean them I'd suggest. Condition is pretty important for coins and badly cleaned coins lose value.

I dug these two up a couple of years ago. Just wiped them with a cloth and that was it.

Bit older than yours and worth a few quid - but I won't sell them. Lovely things.







Edited by TorqueDirty on Tuesday 21st September 09:26
Wow. What an amazing find! You must of had butterflies in your stomach seeing them!