The Under £200ish Watch and occasional Opera Thread! Vol2
Discussion
Hedgedhog said:
blue_haddock said:
Love that Timex. Fortunately for my bank account I am very similar these days. I have maybe one more big watch in me but otherwise I satisfy my watch addiction with classic affordable these days. Still enjoying swapping straps round and think this one looks pretty good.
I also have an incoming.....
Thread drift alert.
Bobbers: I ll take this post down if it is too OT but we like mechanical stuff on here so it may be of interest. It is picture heavy.
As I mentioned my last two contracts have been in the UK, and I am based in Frankfurt. I drove over for both gigs and had the bike carrier on the back.
Buying and selling, I only know three markets. Kid s bikes, racing bikes and cheap automatic watches. The market for all three is much much stronger in Germany so I tend to fill the car with stuff and sell it over here.
Here are my wheeler dealer sales for the two contracts:
Orbea bike, 2x8 drivetrain, hardly used. Bought £40, sold 175 euro
Cube Peloton, bought £100, sold 340 euro. This was a really really nice aluminium frame with 2x10 drivetrain.
Specialized Secteur 3x8 full Claris drivetrain. Basically unused, bought £150, sold 250 euro. It rode superbly though.
Carrera Vanquish 2x8 disc brake road bike. The phone rang off the hook for this, everyone wants disc brakes and tyre clearance. Bought £100 sold 280 euro. It was also pretty much unused.
San Martin GMT. A lovely watch, white hands on a white face isn t for me. It was incredibly accurate. I think I made 60 euro when I sold it on here? Something like that. Maybe a bit more.
Cube Aerial 3x9 Tiagra. Bought £100, sold 280 euro
Trek 1.2 bought £75, sold 280 euro, hardly used. Smaller framed bikes generally take a while to sell but this went in a day.
I bought this Trek Madone full carbon that required quite a bit of work, and am going to keep it for the summer at least. I have £300 into it, including the replacement parts, and it s worth about euro 500 on a good day. New price in 2009 on these was £2000. It rides incredibly well.
Road bikes these days come with a slightly flared handlebar, I got a cheap set to try and they re a definite ergonomic improvement, for me anyway.
I have one more watch up for sale, a nice Spinnaker. Bought for £45, it ll maybe make euro 80 with a sight tailwind.
The s/h market wants dive watches and GMTs. Anything else at my end of the market takes ages to sell.
Anyway, apologies for the OT post. Cheers all.
Bobbers: I ll take this post down if it is too OT but we like mechanical stuff on here so it may be of interest. It is picture heavy.
As I mentioned my last two contracts have been in the UK, and I am based in Frankfurt. I drove over for both gigs and had the bike carrier on the back.
Buying and selling, I only know three markets. Kid s bikes, racing bikes and cheap automatic watches. The market for all three is much much stronger in Germany so I tend to fill the car with stuff and sell it over here.
Here are my wheeler dealer sales for the two contracts:
Orbea bike, 2x8 drivetrain, hardly used. Bought £40, sold 175 euro
Cube Peloton, bought £100, sold 340 euro. This was a really really nice aluminium frame with 2x10 drivetrain.
Specialized Secteur 3x8 full Claris drivetrain. Basically unused, bought £150, sold 250 euro. It rode superbly though.
Carrera Vanquish 2x8 disc brake road bike. The phone rang off the hook for this, everyone wants disc brakes and tyre clearance. Bought £100 sold 280 euro. It was also pretty much unused.
San Martin GMT. A lovely watch, white hands on a white face isn t for me. It was incredibly accurate. I think I made 60 euro when I sold it on here? Something like that. Maybe a bit more.
Cube Aerial 3x9 Tiagra. Bought £100, sold 280 euro
Trek 1.2 bought £75, sold 280 euro, hardly used. Smaller framed bikes generally take a while to sell but this went in a day.
I bought this Trek Madone full carbon that required quite a bit of work, and am going to keep it for the summer at least. I have £300 into it, including the replacement parts, and it s worth about euro 500 on a good day. New price in 2009 on these was £2000. It rides incredibly well.
Road bikes these days come with a slightly flared handlebar, I got a cheap set to try and they re a definite ergonomic improvement, for me anyway.
I have one more watch up for sale, a nice Spinnaker. Bought for £45, it ll maybe make euro 80 with a sight tailwind.
The s/h market wants dive watches and GMTs. Anything else at my end of the market takes ages to sell.
Anyway, apologies for the OT post. Cheers all.
Edited by Barchettaman on Wednesday 29th April 07:51
Edited by Barchettaman on Wednesday 29th April 07:51
Edited by Barchettaman on Wednesday 29th April 07:54
Barchettaman said:
Road bikes these days come with a slightly flared handlebar, I got a cheap set to try and they re a definite ergonomic improvement, for me anyway.
Yes, my wide shoulders mean a modern wider gravel-style bar with some flare works far better for me than the older narrow format.Still prefer flat and riser bars and mountain bikes overall, but in general gravel bikes are great road bikes for me.
The differential in market for used bikes between here and Germany is interesting, are new prices as different?
InitialDave said:
The differential in market for used bikes between here and Germany is interesting, are new prices as different?
Not as far as I am aware. It’s just that the s/h market in the UK is ridiculously cheap: I spotted it a few years ago when I was looking for used bikes for the kids. They were riding Specialized Hot Rock mtbs, expensive over here but they practically give them away in the UK. I imported loads and sold them here. Now I’m not going to get rich, but my attitude is that it subsidises the costs of my transport to and from the UK, and in most cases pays for it completely.
Obviously the arse has fallen out of the rim-braked road bike market pretty much everywhere but they’re still selling (eventually).
BrokenSkunk said:
Some seriously nice looking racers there.
Makes my ol' 1980's Puegot Aravis 531 framed racer look every bit as old as it is.
Cold spread the rear triangle, put on a modern wheelset and drivetrain and it’d be a retro rocket. Makes my ol' 1980's Puegot Aravis 531 framed racer look every bit as old as it is.
531 is lovely tubing, as good as it gets really unless you go for really exotic stuff. I much prefer it to Columbus SL, which I have on my Merckx Corsa Extra.
Bobbers: congratulations on the impending house move. What a relief that must be.
In the same way that the TV producer Aaron Spelling famously had a ‘present-wrapping’ room in his mansion, will there be an ‘eclectic watch collection’ area? A cupboard? Maybe even a wood panelled mahogany drawing room with comfortable leather chairs, cigars and a watch winder in the middle?
I've always had Cube bikes. Love them, very good value and underrated.
I also had a few Italian 2nd bikes too, not expensive classics, just a bit "nice"
Like cars and watches there's something about Italian......
Unfortunately poor illness meant I had to donate all of them recently to a lovely charity in Manchester who take bikes and sell them or convert them for recovering cancer patients, close to my heart given my history.
I also had a few Italian 2nd bikes too, not expensive classics, just a bit "nice"
Like cars and watches there's something about Italian......
Unfortunately poor illness meant I had to donate all of them recently to a lovely charity in Manchester who take bikes and sell them or convert them for recovering cancer patients, close to my heart given my history.
Loving the bike content.
Back in the mid 80's i had a couple of Raleigh Road Ace with 531C tubing and a full set of Shimano 600 aero brakes, close ratio gear sets, chain sets etc.
They were a really nice quality bike for the day. As i got far too much into cars, the clip-on Sidi shoes spent their life in the cupboard along with my old bike w
ker race gear, so i gave my bike, which was mint, to my little brother as a birthday present.
I'd long thought the bike would be gone, but when i popped down to his new house recently, in the shed hanging on the wall was my old bike, still with all the original kit on it, made my day to see it was still alive and kicking, if in need of new tyres and a dust down. Next to it was his original mongoose BMX. Super cool.
Biggest nostalgia thing i miss is my old skateboard, dad threw it out, which i still can't believe. One of the very first proper boards in the UK in the first wave that cost me a years savings, with ACS651 slalom trucks and various wheels from a set of rock hard white bones to Krypronic Reds and Greens. Those were the days.
Back in the mid 80's i had a couple of Raleigh Road Ace with 531C tubing and a full set of Shimano 600 aero brakes, close ratio gear sets, chain sets etc.
They were a really nice quality bike for the day. As i got far too much into cars, the clip-on Sidi shoes spent their life in the cupboard along with my old bike w
ker race gear, so i gave my bike, which was mint, to my little brother as a birthday present.I'd long thought the bike would be gone, but when i popped down to his new house recently, in the shed hanging on the wall was my old bike, still with all the original kit on it, made my day to see it was still alive and kicking, if in need of new tyres and a dust down. Next to it was his original mongoose BMX. Super cool.
Biggest nostalgia thing i miss is my old skateboard, dad threw it out, which i still can't believe. One of the very first proper boards in the UK in the first wave that cost me a years savings, with ACS651 slalom trucks and various wheels from a set of rock hard white bones to Krypronic Reds and Greens. Those were the days.
Edited by 732NM on Wednesday 29th April 20:18
On the backend of my discussion of my DIY watch the other week i finally have photos,
Just spent a couple hours going though all the steps to build this
The only downside is i couldn’t manage to get it to be perfect 12pm date change it’s a few minutes off and the case back won’t screw down all the way, believe it’s a spacer problem which will be addressed another time, i need some dinner first i was meant to have it 3 hours ago
Just spent a couple hours going though all the steps to build this
The only downside is i couldn’t manage to get it to be perfect 12pm date change it’s a few minutes off and the case back won’t screw down all the way, believe it’s a spacer problem which will be addressed another time, i need some dinner first i was meant to have it 3 hours ago
Barchettaman said:
BrokenSkunk said:
Some seriously nice looking racers there.
Makes my ol' 1980's Puegot Aravis 531 framed racer look every bit as old as it is.
Cold spread the rear triangle, put on a modern wheelset and drivetrain and it d be a retro rocket. Makes my ol' 1980's Puegot Aravis 531 framed racer look every bit as old as it is.
531 is lovely tubing, as good as it gets really unless you go for really exotic stuff. I much prefer it to Columbus SL, which I have on my Merckx Corsa Extra.
Bobbers: congratulations on the impending house move. What a relief that must be.
In the same way that the TV producer Aaron Spelling famously had a present-wrapping room in his mansion, will there be an eclectic watch collection area? A cupboard? Maybe even a wood panelled mahogany drawing room with comfortable leather chairs, cigars and a watch winder in the middle?
As for Bobber's retirement pad, I suspect that the mahogany panelled room will have chesterfields and a billiards table. Not sure about the cigars, but I'm imagining a glass cabinet with an extensive collection of single malts. I see the watches displayed in individual lit cubbyholes set into the panel work at chest height and protected from visiting trades by ballistic glass.
What deeply concerns me is that I'm fairly sure of two things:
1/ Bobbers said "retirement home".
2/ Bobbers is the same age that I am.
BrokenSkunk said:
Barchettaman said:
BrokenSkunk said:
Some seriously nice looking racers there.
Makes my ol' 1980's Puegot Aravis 531 framed racer look every bit as old as it is.
Cold spread the rear triangle, put on a modern wheelset and drivetrain and it d be a retro rocket. Makes my ol' 1980's Puegot Aravis 531 framed racer look every bit as old as it is.
531 is lovely tubing, as good as it gets really unless you go for really exotic stuff. I much prefer it to Columbus SL, which I have on my Merckx Corsa Extra.
Bobbers: congratulations on the impending house move. What a relief that must be.
In the same way that the TV producer Aaron Spelling famously had a present-wrapping room in his mansion, will there be an eclectic watch collection area? A cupboard? Maybe even a wood panelled mahogany drawing room with comfortable leather chairs, cigars and a watch winder in the middle?
As for Bobber's retirement pad, I suspect that the mahogany panelled room will have chesterfields and a billiards table. Not sure about the cigars, but I'm imagining a glass cabinet with an extensive collection of single malts. I see the watches displayed in individual lit cubbyholes set into the panel work at chest height and protected from visiting trades by ballistic glass.
What deeply concerns me is that I'm fairly sure of two things:
1/ Bobbers said "retirement home".
2/ Bobbers is the same age that I am.
You lot really do make me laugh!!!
Of course it's mahogany panelled, yes there are wingback Chesterfields, no there's no cigars, yes there's a large malt selection and yes the watches are all displayed....
And yes BrokenSkunk it is a retirement flat, not a retirement home, and I am indeed 55 years old.
Congrats on getting the flat over the line Bobberoo, it's been a long time coming! However you young whippersnappers in the prime of your life in your mid fifties talking like some old goats, you are barely halfway through yet!
Love the bikes Barchettaman.
Only watch news from me is absolutely no new watches on the horizon but I have come close to putting up my least liked (to me) watch up for sale. It was the subject of it's own thread on PH, a small green watch, bought in thread budget after many months searching but probably should go. I have never sold a watch before so is a bit of a rubicon to cross.
Love the bikes Barchettaman.
Only watch news from me is absolutely no new watches on the horizon but I have come close to putting up my least liked (to me) watch up for sale. It was the subject of it's own thread on PH, a small green watch, bought in thread budget after many months searching but probably should go. I have never sold a watch before so is a bit of a rubicon to cross.
Barchettaman said:
Not as far as I am aware. It s just that the s/h market in the UK is ridiculously cheap: I spotted it a few years ago when I was looking for used bikes for the kids. They were riding Specialized Hot Rock mtbs, expensive over here but they practically give them away in the UK. I imported loads and sold them here.
Now I m not going to get rich, but my attitude is that it subsidises the costs of my transport to and from the UK, and in most cases pays for it completely.
Obviously the arse has fallen out of the rim-braked road bike market pretty much everywhere but they re still selling (eventually).
It's the same here in Italy. Sadly the same with S/H cars too. sheds in the UK sell for thousands here used, and they really have had a hard life to boot!Now I m not going to get rich, but my attitude is that it subsidises the costs of my transport to and from the UK, and in most cases pays for it completely.
Obviously the arse has fallen out of the rim-braked road bike market pretty much everywhere but they re still selling (eventually).
Do you think there's much of a market going the other way? steel is real seems to be all but dead now, overtaken by the gravel trend. The occasional 80's/90's Colnago can be had here for under 500 euro, but not sure It would make much in the UK?
I still enjoy the occasional visit to retrobikes to see whats on the market....
craigthecoupe said:
Do you think there's much of a market going the other way? steel is real seems to be all but dead now, overtaken by the gravel trend. The occasional 80's/90's Colnago can be had here for under 500 euro, but not sure It would make much in the UK?
I still enjoy the occasional visit to retrobikes to see whats on the market....
Unlikely. S/H stuff appears to be really cheap in the UK. There are plenty of really nice ‘exotic’ Italian road bikes and frames for sale on uk site, overpriced and unwanted. I still enjoy the occasional visit to retrobikes to see whats on the market....
Maybe there would be a market in the uk for antique rustic Italian farmhouse furniture? Marble tiles, reclaimed building materials? The problem would be, how do you get it back to the UK cost effectively?
Edited by Barchettaman on Friday 1st May 10:27
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