Breitling screw-in crown trouble, advice please!

Breitling screw-in crown trouble, advice please!

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thornettj

Original Poster:

125 posts

221 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Hello watch experts.
I am lucky enough to have a Breitling Chrono avenger, (titanium), which I love.

It is around 4 years old.

Approx two years after I bought it (but crucially just inside the 2 year warranty period) I found that the crown would not screw back in after adjusting the time. To be honest it had deteriorated over a period of a few months where it became more difficult to screw in, the crown just screwed round and round, without getting any 'purchase'. Breitling repaired under warranty.

Fast forward to this year an I notice that the same thing is happening again, i.e. it is getting more difficult to get the crown to get any purchase on the thread, to lock itself down. Over a few months it became impossible. I had thought maybe dirt had got into the thread whch was stopping it threading on, but this was not the case. I dropped the watch into the place I purchased it from and they said they would send into Breitling who would investigate.

I have heard today that Breitling will charge me for repair, as the watch is long out of guarantee, and the original repair only had one year warranty on it, which is passed. Their quote states:

"To put your crown in order requires a routine complete overhaul including: dismantling, cleaning & checking all components, replacement of worn parts, assembly, oiling, Various adjustments. Refurbishing the case & bracelet , replacement of all gaskets & water resistance test. £400.00
  • Exchange of hands included in above £0.00
  • Exchange of crown- existing will not screw down £99.21"
I guess I just want your thoughts on this. Am I asking too much for a quality watch not to need a replacement crown every two years? I treat it VERY gently, and screw it in with great care not to damage the thread, max once every two weeks....

bry1975

1,246 posts

163 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Hi there,


Sounds like the threaded case tube has weak threads you shouldn't be having to pay that much.

I'll email a Breitling contact.



Bry

thornettj

Original Poster:

125 posts

221 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Thank you Bry

bry1975

1,246 posts

163 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Imo crown and stem repair shouldn't be anymore than £100-£150 TOPS and that's expensive.

I've emailed my contact I would think it's the case tube that has stripped these are usually £10-£20 maximum.

Will forward contact reply update asap.

Bry



Edited by bry1975 on Monday 28th March 16:20

bry1975

1,246 posts

163 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Reply from Breitling contact:-

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Hi m8,



sorry, but that's a fair cost estimation for an overhaul of a 4 year old watch.



To my opinion the guy does a mistake with the crown, he should be taught to screw and unscrew it correctly.



Most people give to much power on the last turn and the titanium does not like this.



He has always the possibilty to reject the overhaul and take only the crown for 99 BP.



Nobody can force him to take the overhaul."




GSP

1,965 posts

204 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Apparently it's very common with titanium Breitlings. Something to do with the properties of the metal.

I've seen several posts on just the breitling resource forum myself. Have a google, your pricing seems to pretty much the standard offer.

bry1975

1,246 posts

163 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Commercial pure grade Titanium used in jewellery has very little strength hence threads strip very easily. Sandvik supposedly supply Breitling with their Titanium I know this as I noticed a Breitling case blank in one of their metal brochures. biggrin

Edited by bry1975 on Thursday 31st March 14:02

duvesi

1 posts

89 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Every time you send your watch away for a repair via an authorised dealer, they will basically send it for an overall service with whatever problem you have with the watch. if the retailer is bad, as they are in 99percent of all cases, they will not inform you on this fact and you will pay for an overall service on top of the actual service you require. in most cases they will change the crystal (no matter if necessary) and repolish the case. you always need to specify what job you want to be done on the watch.

if a repair on the case has been done, you should get a full-time warranty on it. if the threading was redone,you must get a new crown as well or the threading on the crown must be done as well.

cutting a new thread is a serious job which in most cases cannot be done (especially on stainless steel) and the whole case needs to be changed. if you try to repair a thread, the quality of the thread will actually get worse, especially with stainless steel where the thread 'likes to catch'. some watchmakers (I know about a few Seikos) makes the thread of the crown a bit thinner/weaker so if the thread gets damaged, it is usually the crown that needs to be replaced.

if the same problem of the case occurs more than once, you should get either a full refund or a new watch, no matter if it happens within you warranty, especially with breitling.

dxbtiger

4,389 posts

173 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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duvesi said:
Every time you send your watch away for a repair via an authorised dealer, they will basically send it for an overall service with whatever problem you have with the watch. if the retailer is bad, as they are in 99percent of all cases, they will not inform you on this fact and you will pay for an overall service on top of the actual service you require. in most cases they will change the crystal (no matter if necessary) and repolish the case. you always need to specify what job you want to be done on the watch.

if a repair on the case has been done, you should get a full-time warranty on it. if the threading was redone,you must get a new crown as well or the threading on the crown must be done as well.

cutting a new thread is a serious job which in most cases cannot be done (especially on stainless steel) and the whole case needs to be changed. if you try to repair a thread, the quality of the thread will actually get worse, especially with stainless steel where the thread 'likes to catch'. some watchmakers (I know about a few Seikos) makes the thread of the crown a bit thinner/weaker so if the thread gets damaged, it is usually the crown that needs to be replaced.

if the same problem of the case occurs more than once, you should get either a full refund or a new watch, no matter if it happens within you warranty, especially with breitling.
There you go OP, only took five and a half years for this gem..

markevo6

67 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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I have the exact same problem with an Avenger . Breitling quoted almost £1200 to repair and service and an independant Breitling specialist quoted £620 .
Can anyone pass on where they went to get their Breitling repaired.
This is my second Breitling with the same problem , its totally put me off the brand now .
Thanks .

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Try Anglesey Watch and Clocks.

My issue was with a stuck bezel and I wanted the watch serviced as well. Breitling quoted over a £1000 of which £500 was the new bezel. And then they wanted to fit a new crown and a crystal.

Joe serviced the watch (a Quartz Colt rather than an automatic, admittedly), cleaned it ultrasonically and freed the bezel for £75!!!

hollydog

1,108 posts

192 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Yet another avenger with crown problems . There is defo a problem with them. You need to write a complaints letter to breitling .

hollydog

1,108 posts

192 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Its a common problem. In my opinion the stem and crown is not fit for purpose if they keep braking . Quote this on your return letter .


hilly10

7,116 posts

228 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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My Superocean Heritage lasted 8 months from new,repaired under warranty. I also know of a fair few others that the thread as stripped on the tube, it's a renowned Breitling problem, made me not buy another.

Philemon

1,623 posts

196 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Ditto. My SuperOcean Heritage had the same problem. Now I'd never trust it submerged.

All show, no dough. Bit like a supermodel, high maintenance, but everyone wants a look at...

thornettj

Original Poster:

125 posts

221 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Weirdly just found my old post from 6 years ago when searching the forum because, you guessed it, Breitlng titanium crown will not thread on again. THis is the 3rd or 4th time in 9 years. Clearly a design fault - I don it over tighten the crown.

Does anyone have any ideas?

James

Reno

39 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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I also had to have the case on my Sup Heritage replaced this year. Was about €450. I also tightened it properly. It went after 7 ish years of use.
I also just replaced the Blue Lunnette- €92 fitted.
I will swap it for a Rolex i think...

gun12b

353 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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had mine done under warranty
i never screw the crown in any more breitling crap,

Reno

39 posts

240 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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I think mine is going again. The crown locks after only a 3rd of a turn after pushing in! I will take it back to the OD and see what they say.
I love this watch- think it is stunning looking! But I could be changing to a Rolex before i thought

hilly10

7,116 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Its a big weekness on Breitlings I know of so many people who have had stripped tube threads, but cannot for the life of me know of anyone who has had a screw down crown problem with a Rolex.