Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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donna180

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627 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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The BBC are soooo politically biased towards Labour - so blatantly that it's not even worth quoting examples but the way Newsnight covered Camerson's using the veto and general coverage on Europe/spending/economy......

And there's always labour red in the background in the studios....

And least the mail picked up on it but for a public sector organisation surely an independent body needs to monitor the situation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2072307/Ho...

Eric Mc

121,773 posts

264 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Do you ever watch "This Week"?

Apache

39,731 posts

283 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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I must admit that I'm surprised it is still as bad a year after Labours demise. I can only hope Dave starts wading in once, more important, affairs have been dealt with

king arthur

6,538 posts

260 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
The problem is Eric, not many people do...

donna180

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627 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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I'd be happy to opt completely out of the BBC and just use Sky but that's just me.

I think the Govt, need to act now and act hard - after all, I'm sure Labour would do something if the situation were reversed. The BBC's bias is just comical now....

bennyboydurham

1,617 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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donna180 said:
And there's always labour red in the background in the studios....
Tin foil hat for one please

if you think that the studio colour is decided on to make you vote labour might suggest the problem isn't the BBC but in your head

Eric Mc

121,773 posts

264 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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king arthur said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
The problem is Eric, not many people do...
So, the biasdness is based on viewing habits rather than actual output?

Eric Mc

121,773 posts

264 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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bennyboydurham said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.

Apache

39,731 posts

283 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
king arthur said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
The problem is Eric, not many people do...
So, the biasdness is based on viewing habits rather than actual output?
I have to admire your constant support of the Beeb Eric but the endless threads about it and the numerous websites and bloggs cannot be ignored. It is far from being caused by peoples 'viewing habits' and to quote one journo that bucks the trend hardly sways that opinion, I give you Andrew Marr as a counter

donna180

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627 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
donna180 said:
And there's always labour red in the background in the studios....
Tin foil hat for one please

if you think that the studio colour is decided on to make you vote labour might suggest the problem isn't the BBC but in your head
It wouldn't affect me as I've never voted Labour.

So why not a neutral colour.... Always red. rolleyes

There's bound to be a subliminal effect around election time for some people....

Edit: easy answer: let them change red to blue whereever they have red, put blue. wink


Edited by donna180 on Saturday 10th December 11:34

donna180

Original Poster:

627 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
bennyboydurham said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.
Eric, I always enjoy your views - radio 4 might be a good example (I never listen) but it's the mainstream news and current event programs that affect the mass vote and they always seem biased.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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donna180 said:
thinfourth2 said:
donna180 said:
And there's always labour red in the background in the studios....
Tin foil hat for one please

if you think that the studio colour is decided on to make you vote labour might suggest the problem isn't the BBC but in your head
It wouldn't affect me as I've never voted Labour.

So why not a neutral colour.... Always red. rolleyes

There's bound to be a subliminal effect around election time for some people....


Diderot

7,263 posts

191 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.
Erm, er, no. It is a matter of fact, not opinion, that the BBC is institutionally biased in favour of the CAGW scam.


chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Diderot said:
Eric Mc said:
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.
Erm, er, no. It is a matter of fact, not opinion, that the BBC is institutionally biased in favour of the CAGW scam.
Certainly true. Also, I was listening to HIGNFY last night (whilst still working..), and all the jokes were at the expense of the Tory's and the US Republicans - Herman Cain getting a right thrashing (fair enough, I suppose, he may deserve it - I don't know..)
Then, after this, a comedy show was on, where the first 'jokes' were also political, this time Sara Palin and the Tea Party. Oh yes, and then the BBC 'news' - and we all know what side the BBC was on regarding the EU and UK - not ours! The constant drip-drip-drip of snearing at the 'Right' grated.

I do not watch/listen to a lot of BBC prime time TV any longer, but if that was a sample of the overall picture, I'm glad I don't - it was like flicking through the pages of a left wing rag!

Eric Mc

121,773 posts

264 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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donna180 said:
Eric Mc said:
bennyboydurham said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.
Eric, I always enjoy your views - radio 4 might be a good example (I never listen) but it's the mainstream news and current event programs that affect the mass vote and they always seem biased.
Don't critise the messenger if you chose not to listen to all the messages they are carrying. I agree that mainstream news does carry bias and is far too simplistic in its approach on far too many topics. Indeed, simplistic news coverage is endemic across a lot of the broadcast media. not just the BBC.

However, of all the broadcasters, it is the BBC that carries the widest, deepest and most varied views. Granted, you might have to listen and look a bit harder to find these alternative view points, but those views are there.

And if you don't listen to Radio 4, start now. It will change your life.

Eric Mc

121,773 posts

264 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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chris watton said:
Certainly true. Also, I was listening to HIGNFY last night (whilst still working..), and all the jokes were at the expense of the Tory's and the US Republicans - Herman Cain getting a right thrashing (fair enough, I suppose, he may deserve it - I don't know..)
Then, after this, a comedy show was on, where the first 'jokes' were also political, this time Sara Palin and the Tea Party. Oh yes, and then the BBC 'news' - and we all know what side the BBC was on regarding the EU and UK - not ours! The constant drip-drip-drip of snearing at the 'Right' grated.

I do not watch/listen to a lot of BBC prime time TV any longer, but if that was a sample of the overall picture, I'm glad I don't - it was like flicking through the pages of a left wing rag!
Political jokes tend to be aimed at those in power. I don't remember Labour getting an easy ride from HIGNY between 1997 and 2010.

7mike

3,005 posts

192 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
chris watton said:
Certainly true. Also, I was listening to HIGNFY last night (whilst still working..), and all the jokes were at the expense of the Tory's and the US Republicans - Herman Cain getting a right thrashing (fair enough, I suppose, he may deserve it - I don't know..)
Then, after this, a comedy show was on, where the first 'jokes' were also political, this time Sara Palin and the Tea Party. Oh yes, and then the BBC 'news' - and we all know what side the BBC was on regarding the EU and UK - not ours! The constant drip-drip-drip of snearing at the 'Right' grated.

I do not watch/listen to a lot of BBC prime time TV any longer, but if that was a sample of the overall picture, I'm glad I don't - it was like flicking through the pages of a left wing rag!
Political jokes tend to be aimed at those in power. I don't remember Labour getting an easy ride from HIGNY between 1997 and 2010.
OMFG, Sara Palin is presidentyikes Glad i don't keep up to date with the news.

donna180

Original Poster:

627 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
donna180 said:
Eric Mc said:
bennyboydurham said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.
Eric, I always enjoy your views - radio 4 might be a good example (I never listen) but it's the mainstream news and current event programs that affect the mass vote and they always seem biased.
Don't critise the messenger if you chose not to listen to all the messages they are carrying. I agree that mainstream news does carry bias and is far too simplistic in its approach on far too many topics. Indeed, simplistic news coverage is endemic across a lot of the broadcast media. not just the BBC.

However, of all the broadcasters, it is the BBC that carries the widest, deepest and most varied views. Granted, you might have to listen and look a bit harder to find these alternative view points, but those views are there.

And if you don't listen to Radio 4, start now. It will change your life.
Well, think a supposedly high brow organisation should strive for political objectivity in its mainstream programs and I don't want to be stuck watching TV all the time and unrealistic for others to do so....

There needs to be a review of BBC news reporting impartiality in this country because it is so blatantly biased.

(I'll check out R4.smile )

Smiler.

11,752 posts

229 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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Eric Mc said:
bennyboydurham said:
Eric Mc said:
Do you ever watch "This Week"?
I do and Andrew Neil is one of the BBC's finest in that his outlook is not intrisically 'of the left' as seems to be the default setting from the Beeb but unless you watch This Week or The Daily Politics then sadly all you'll ever get is the constant evil Tories meme...
So, it's not "constant" really. They do show and allow other views. It's just that people chose not to listen to or watch the programmes where they might hear or see these viewpoints.

[b[Radio 4 is another location where alternative views and very lively and educated debate and discussion of ALL sides of the various political divides are aired all the time.[/b]
I have noticed in the last 12 months that quality of the interview technique by the Today presenters has deteriorated quite considerably.

The presenters have a point to make & they will damn well make it. It is very irritating when the interviewee is trying to get their words out.

I don't have any stats as to the political persuasion of the interviewees who suffer the worst of it though.

As I listen to R4 all day most days, I rarely watch news on TV (although the mrs often has C4 evening news on when I get home).


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