Billionaire to build Titanic replica

[Gwagon111]

Kitchski said:

On the other hand, I'd love to see (in the flesh) this replica, just purely in terms of scale.

If you need an idea of the size of it, compared to the second largest class of cruise ship at the moment, try and see the Fred Olson ship called Balmoral, next to the Independence of the seas. I saw these 2 right next to each other, in Southampton, last year. The Titanic would look like a life boat now .

[Wedg1e]

skyrover said:

Olympic II?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic

The original dining suite is currently installed in a hotel in my hometown.

Not quite: The White Swan has the First Class Lounge fittings...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Swan_Hotel,_Aln...

[tank slapper]

Gwagon111 said:

If you need an idea of the size of it, compared to the second largest class of cruise ship at the moment, try and see the Fred Olson ship called Balmoral, next to the Independence of the seas. I saw these 2 right next to each other, in Southampton, last year. The Titanic would look like a life boat now .

Here is a profile of Titanic overlaid on the Queen Mary 2. The replica Titanic is going to be taller than the original, but not by much.

[Kitchski]

Gwagon111 said:

Kitchski said:

On the other hand, I'd love to see (in the flesh) this replica, just purely in terms of scale.

If you need an idea of the size of it, compared to the second largest class of cruise ship at the moment, try and see the Fred Olson ship called Balmoral, next to the Independence of the seas. I saw these 2 right next to each other, in Southampton, last year. The Titanic would look like a life boat now .

Oh I know big ships. I followed Balmoral down the Solent last summer.


Aboard Ventura

[skyrover]

Wedg1e said:

skyrover said:

Olympic II?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic

The original dining suite is currently installed in a hotel in my hometown.

Not quite: The White Swan has the First Class Lounge fittings...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Swan_Hotel,_Aln...

I see...

Only been in twice myself, once when I was about 3 and once last year for a wedding

Quite snazzy... the whole place has been refurbished recently

[Xaero]

Am I the only one to be pleased we (as in the human race) still have a mega rich person who happily spends his money on a bonkers idea like this?

I'm sure this idea has been the subject of a few pub conversations over the past few decades, it would be nice to see someone actually go ahead with it. It's the sort of thing I'd like to think I would do if I was a billionaire, rather than just play safe investments and park a supercar in Monaco.

[FourWheelDrift]

tank slapper said:

Here is a profile of Titanic overlaid on the Queen Mary 2. The replica Titanic is going to be taller than the original, but not by much.

And the Olympic class had a very large draught compared to it's size of 10.5m. The QM2 despite being bigger and higher has a draught of only 10.1m !

Not sure if modern design requirements will change that on the Titanic 2.

[Silver Smudger]

Xaero said:

Am I the only one to be pleased we (as in the human race) still have a mega rich person who happily spends his money on a bonkers idea like this?

No, me too! Will be great to see it if it is successful, will be interesting if not - Free entertainment either way, it's a win-win

[tank slapper]

FourWheelDrift said:

And the Olympic class had a very large draught compared to it's size of 10.5m. The QM2 despite being bigger and higher has a draught of only 10.1m !

Not sure if modern design requirements will change that on the Titanic 2.

The Titanic 2 is planned to have a reduced draught compared to the original, at 7.5m, but will have 4m more beam. There are some other changes to allow for modern techniques such as using a bulbous bow and thruster pods rather than conventional propeller shafts.

[Condi]

Silver Smudger said:

Xaero said:

Am I the only one to be pleased we (as in the human race) still have a mega rich person who happily spends his money on a bonkers idea like this?

No, me too! Will be great to see it if it is successful, will be interesting if not - Free entertainment either way, it's a win-win

Me three!! He said his children will be rich enough whether he does Titanic 2 or not, so may as well do it and enjoy his money.

[Gwagon111]

Condi said:

Me three!! He said his children will be rich enough whether he does Titanic 2 or not, so may as well do it and enjoy his money.

He's as crazy as a box of frogs on a barbecue. You've got to love it .

[Carsie]

Kitchski said:

My great-grandfather was a fireman on Titanic (Olympic and Brittanic too for that matter), so there's a part of me that has a massive interest purely from a self-centered point of view...how it (very) nearly affected my existence!

That's interesting Kitchski, we too have a family story that I can share.

My father, God rest his soul, was Irish and oft regaled stories of his father and the early days of his Dublin childhood in the 1920/30s

One of the family stories is that Grandfather Carr won a ticket to sail on the maiden voyage of Titanic but he passed on the ticket as he was due to marry Grandmother Carr who hailed from Belfast.

Now, within the family we acknowledged that perhaps there was a bit of Irish blarney going on and we just took it to be one of those stories, until the film, Titanic, starring Leo de Caprio came out and I, not unnaturally, started to question the background.

It transpired that Granddad Carr served his apprenticeship in Harland & Wolf, he was a founder member of the Electro Mechanical Engineers (we have the documents). One of his friends was a certain chap called Marconi and they used to meet when he was across on business which I presume meant Belfast.

It also transpired that it was common practice to offer tickets to the yard workers on the maiden voyage of a newly-built ship.

The Black & Tan years in Dublin saw Granddad's radio receiver and all his radio equipment confiscated as well as his Star motor car that was used to form a barricade where it promptly got shot to pieces! ; the Marconi link seemed to hold weight as well.

There were a myriad of other pieces of the stories that I've put together over the years that would tie up the fact that perhaps the Titanic story was true; it certainly had the basis to be so but knowing how much I like leg pull and my Dad had a twinkle when he told one of his stories, I think perhaps the story might fit there, but as you said Kitchski, if indeed it was true "how it (very) nearly affected my existence!"

Carsie

Edited by Carsie on Sunday 10th March 18:26

[davepoth]

tank slapper said:

FourWheelDrift said:

And the Olympic class had a very large draught compared to it's size of 10.5m. The QM2 despite being bigger and higher has a draught of only 10.1m !

Not sure if modern design requirements will change that on the Titanic 2.

The Titanic 2 is planned to have a reduced draught compared to the original, at 7.5m, but will have 4m more beam. There are some other changes to allow for modern techniques such as using a bulbous bow and thruster pods rather than conventional propeller shafts.

So it's actually going to be a modern cruise liner with some wood glued to it?

[FourWheelDrift]

You wouldn't notice any change in beam or draught and the other bits are under water.

But then being built by the Chinese I'd expect anything to come out of the shipyard. Just look at the tacky pastiche that is Nero.

[tank slapper]

davepoth said:

So it's actually going to be a modern cruise liner with some wood glued to it?

They couldn't easily just rebuild the original as it wouldn't meet modern safety standards. I also don't think they would get away with using coal fired boilers and steam engines. It would simply cost too much to run. From what they are planning, it won't look much like a modern cruise liner internally at all.

[Gwagon111]

The Blue Star people I spoke to on Tuesday, were adamant that it was going to be a high class, faithful recreation. The modern bits will be very well disguised / hidden. They have however, incorporated an extra deck, in order to accommodate the extra lifeboats . We shall see. The plans I saw looked very impressive, the guys I spoke to seemed very passionate about the project.

[Kitchski]

Carsie said:

Kitchski said:

My great-grandfather was a fireman on Titanic (Olympic and Brittanic too for that matter), so there's a part of me that has a massive interest purely from a self-centered point of view...how it (very) nearly affected my existence!

That's interesting Kitchski, we too have a family story that I can share.

My father, God rest his soul, was Irish and oft regaled stories of his father and the early days of his Dublin childhood in the 1920/30s

One of the family stories is that Grandfather Carr won a ticket to sail on the maiden voyage of Titanic but he passed on the ticket as he was due to marry Grandmother Carr who hailed from Belfast.

Now, within the family we acknowledged that perhaps there was a bit of Irish blarney going on and we just took it to be one of those stories, until the film, Titanic, starring Leo de Caprio came out and I, not unnaturally, started to question the background.

It transpired that Granddad Carr served his apprenticeship in Harland & Wolf, he was a founder member of the Electro Mechanical Engineers (we have the documents). One of his friends was a certain chap called Marconi and they used to meet when he was across on business which I presume meant Belfast.

It also transpired that it was common practice to offer tickets to the yard workers on the maiden voyage of a newly-built ship.

The Black & Tan years in Dublin saw Granddad's radio receiver and all his radio equipment confiscated as well as his Star motor car that was used to form a barricade where it promptly got shot to pieces! ; the Marconi link seemed to hold weight as well.

There were a myriad of other pieces of the stories that I've put together over the years that would tie up the fact that perhaps the Titanic story was true; it certainly had the basis to be so but knowing how much I like leg pull and my Dad had a twinkle when he told one of his stories, I think perhaps the story might fit there, but as you said Kitchski, if indeed it was true "how it (very) nearly affected my existence!"

Carsie

Edited by Carsie on Sunday 10th March 18:26

It's amazing how closely run stuff is. But then I guess you could apply the 'what if?' logic to nearly everything that's been in the past and probably affect the present.

For me it's pretty simple. G/Grandfather (Albert Street) was a fireman on Titanic (and the others) and was off duty at the time of the impact.
He never spoke of the ordeal, but just before he died in the 1964 (I think) one of my great-great Aunt basically came out with "well go on then, what happened?"
Apparently he want on at great length and in great detail about the night. He was off-duty at the time on an upper deck with a mate. I didn't catch what happened in the hours between the collision and the sinking, but the upshot is that he jumped in the water and passed out from the cold. He came round in a lifeboat (we've got the number of the boat he was in somewhere in a book, but not to hand.....I want to say 14 but I'd need to check).
What gets me is that someone pulled him up into the boat, and that person is responsible for my existence (aswell as that of my mum, brother, sister, my kids etc)! Possibly a possible split-second decision having as much bearing as it has.....it's mental to try and take it all in!

But then I guess they happen everywhere, it's just no one stops to think about it.

[Simpo Two]

Carsie said:

It transpired that Granddad Carr served his apprenticeship in Harland & Wolf, he was a founder member of the Electro Mechanical Engineers (we have the documents). One of his friends was a certain chap called Marconi and they used to meet when he was across on business which I presume meant Belfast.

The Black & Tan years in Dublin saw Granddad's radio receiver and all his radio equipment confiscated as well as his Star motor car that was used to form a barricade where it promptly got shot to pieces! ; the Marconi link seemed to hold weight as well.

IIRC the Titanic had Marconi radio equipment - I wonder if your grandfather helped to fit it or was responsible for its purchase?