HMS Queen Elizabeth
Discussion
Phud said:
98elise said:
When I was serving the squadron's rarely rotated. When they were on board it was the same people, and they had permanent offices, workshops , cabins, and messes etc.
They do disappear as soon as you're heading to your home port though. Carriers stop flight operations when alongside, so they generally shift to a shore base.
The CAGs are aligned to ships, one swaps ships if it goes into refit, personnel will change within the CAG but the squadrons normally remain the same.They do disappear as soon as you're heading to your home port though. Carriers stop flight operations when alongside, so they generally shift to a shore base.
You might embark a flight if you need a different role, such as junglies if not pinging or they want a jolly.
Gandahar said:
Has anyone got the number of other surface Navy warships in 1982 alongside Hermes and Invincible compared to 2019 against these two aircraft carriers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_naval_forces...Gandahar said:
Has anyone got the number of other surface Navy warships in 1982 alongside Hermes and Invincible compared to 2019 against these two aircraft carriers?
Not exhaustive, and obviously not all the hulls were available to deploy to the South Atlantic, but I'll have a go...3 x Harrier decks, Hermes, Invincible, and Illustrious (Illustrious was "commissioned under way" between the Swan Hunter yard and Portsmouth in the rush to get her into service in the South Atlantic)
HMS Bristol (single ship built of 4 planned Type 82 Destroyers, now a training ship permanently alongside in Portsmouth)
3 x County Class Destroyers
9 x Type 42 Destroyers
25 x Leander Class Frigates
8 x Type 21 Frigates
3 x Type 22 Frigates (Brazen commissioned in July '82 to make 4)
8 x Rothesay Class Frigates (including HMS Falmouth reactivated from 'Standby Squadron' for the Falklands)
2 x Whitby Class Frigates (both Training vessels rather than front line ships)
2 x Amphibious Warfare ships, Fearless and Intrepid
9 x Hunt Class mine countermeasures vessels
14 x Ton Class minehunters
16 x Ton Class minesweepers
Ice Patrol Ship HMS Endurance
So roughly 100 commissioned surface vessels, plus the submarine fleet...
4 x Resolution Class Polaris armed nuclear boats
6 x Swiftsure Class fleet boats
2 x Valiant class fleet boats
3 x Churchill Class fleet boats (including Conqueror which sank the Belgrano
13 x Oberon Class conventional diesel/electric fleet boats
There may also have been a couple of boats left knocking about dockyards from the Porpoise Class, but they were being replaced by the Oberon Class and some had already been sunk or broken up before 1982.
Roughly 30 submarines of all types.
There were also a couple of trawlers converted to minesweepers, and three shallow-draft minesweepers for inshore work. Plus 6 x RFA landing ships, logistic included in the fleet of front line amphibious units.
There will have been other assets too, and of course not all vessels would have been in service all of the time, many will have been in various states of repair or refit, and I doubt we could have crewed all of them all at once either. HMS Ark Royal was launched in June 1981, but would not be commissioned until 1985 and there were two Type 22 Frigates under construction, Boxer and Beaver, commissioning in '83 and '84, with two more planned as of 1982.
ETA: My list is longer in terms of commissioned warships, but shorter on the RFA fleet and STUFT vessels than the Falklands War list in that Wiki link in the post above, as not all RN warships steamed south with the task force.
Edited by yellowjack on Friday 29th November 16:33
Europa1 said:
I have been re-watching Britain's Biggest Warship. Can anyone explain the significance/meaning of the cummerbunds that some f the officers are seen wearing on duty?
Different cummerbunds relate to different roles, ship, squadron, so engineers might have a spanner, each squadron has a different one, 814 was tiger stripes, 820 a dolphin 849 a lighting flash.wrencho said:
Just caught up on the documentary. Very interesting!
Probably a stupid question but if she is powered by gas turbines how much gas storage would be required? Wouldn't that limit the scope of her operations because not all ports can readily refuel her?
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!Probably a stupid question but if she is powered by gas turbines how much gas storage would be required? Wouldn't that limit the scope of her operations because not all ports can readily refuel her?
mikal83 said:
wrencho said:
Just caught up on the documentary. Very interesting!
Probably a stupid question but if she is powered by gas turbines how much gas storage would be required? Wouldn't that limit the scope of her operations because not all ports can readily refuel her?
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!Probably a stupid question but if she is powered by gas turbines how much gas storage would be required? Wouldn't that limit the scope of her operations because not all ports can readily refuel her?
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
mikal83 said:
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
mikal83 said:
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
IforB said:
mikal83 said:
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
te, as you have, be expected to have the piss taken. So as you have written, dont be a dick.mikal83 said:
IforB said:
mikal83 said:
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
te, as you have, be expected to have the piss taken. So as you have written, dont be a dick.te"? I am genuinely interested.Europa1 said:
mikal83 said:
IforB said:
mikal83 said:
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
te, as you have, be expected to have the piss taken. So as you have written, dont be a dick.te"? I am genuinely interested.mikal83 said:
Europa1 said:
mikal83 said:
IforB said:
mikal83 said:
Seight_Returns said:
mikal83 said:
Anyone else have a laugh at the above!
Or we could just answer what appeared to be well meant question.Gas Turbines are used in a wide variety of aviation, power generation, industrial and marine applications. One of their advantages is their flexibility with regard to their sources of fuel - they can be adapted to run on almost any flammable gas or light distillate petroleum products - or even heavy oils with appropriate pre heating.
I believe that in a the case of QNLZ and most (all?) RN ships they use MGO (essentially diesel) which is compatible with the gas turbine and diesel propulsion and power generation requirements across the rest of the Fleet. MGO is freely commercially available anywhere QNLZ is likely to come alongside and she can be refueled at sea by RFAs.
One of the reasons nuclear power was not considered (apart from cost) is that many foreign ports will not allow a nuclear powered ship.
If you really havent a clue WTF your on about, might be best to not type.
te, as you have, be expected to have the piss taken. So as you have written, dont be a dick.te"? I am genuinely interested.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff