Aircraft technical jobs ?

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J4CKO

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41,543 posts

200 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Cheers chaps, its great, all being well in less than two years he will be qualified.

J4CKO

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Friday 20th September 2019
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Aviation bods, just picking this up again as TC looking a bit dicey and as above, my son works for them as an apprentice, has just started the fourth year.

Just after some advice really, in case the do fail, what his options would be seeing as he is on his way to being qualified, but not quite there yet having done seven I think of the license exams, they have to do the A exams, but he elected to do them at both A and B level. Just hoping he is far enough along to be employable by another carrier.

Obviously sympathetic to all who work there and everyones holiday plans being screwed but need to focus on him, have to say he doesn't seem overly concerned !

Speed 3

4,563 posts

119 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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I suspect anyone that far through a course would be picked up by one of the other airlines like EZY or an MRO. They all need future talent and I know it happened when MAEL went under.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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J4CKO said:
Aviation bods, just picking this up again as TC looking a bit dicey and as above, my son works for them as an apprentice, has just started the fourth year.

Just after some advice really, in case the do fail, what his options would be seeing as he is on his way to being qualified, but not quite there yet having done seven I think of the license exams, they have to do the A exams, but he elected to do them at both A and B level. Just hoping he is far enough along to be employable by another carrier.

Obviously sympathetic to all who work there and everyones holiday plans being screwed but need to focus on him, have to say he doesn't seem overly concerned !
Oh bum. First thing is to ensure he has access to his training records and achievements up to date. That way if the worst does happen, he shouldn't lose anything.

Most MRO's are always on the hunt for more people, as there simply aren't enough engineers, so I would hope he would be picked up nice and quickly in the event of the worst happening. As mentioned, that is what happened when MAEL went under.


-Neil-

147 posts

183 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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J4CKO said:
Just after some advice really, in case the do fail, what his options would be seeing as he is on his way to being qualified, but not quite there yet having done seven I think of the license exams, they have to do the A exams, but he elected to do them at both A and B level. Just hoping he is far enough along to be employable by another carrier.
Get the certs off the training provider asap, he'll find a job no problem if he's prepared to move as there's plenty of work out there smile

Leadfoot

1,901 posts

281 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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I don't want to be too much of a doom merchant, but I think you (& he) are being a touch complacent.

If Thomas Cook go under there are going to be loads (120 ish) of qualified & experienced guys looking for work that'll be ahead of your son in the queue.

They also have the personal industry connections that he won't have, so will find it much easier to just walk across the apron to the red hangar etc.

Start making a plan now.

Good luck (& to all my ex colleagues at TCX).

G600

1,479 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Every single monarch apprentice was taken on by BA, try not to worry too much.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Leadfoot said:
I don't want to be too much of a doom merchant, but I think you (& he) are being a touch complacent.

If Thomas Cook go under there are going to be loads (120 ish) of qualified & experienced guys looking for work that'll be ahead of your son in the queue.

They also have the personal industry connections that he won't have, so will find it much easier to just walk across the apron to the red hangar etc.

Start making a plan now.

Good luck (& to all my ex colleagues at TCX).
He's an apprentice. He'll be at the front of the queue not the back. They usually get sorted out as a group when things like this happen.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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IforB said:
He's an apprentice. He'll be at the front of the queue not the back. They usually get sorted out as a group when things like this happen.
Exactly, qualified techs of various grades and apprentices will be hired separately.

Speed 3

4,563 posts

119 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Sad to see the worst came true, hope the lad got all his records out before the fold. Keep us posted on how he gets on.

J4CKO

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Tuesday 24th September 2019
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He did mention that his old manager is still there (some folk were retained to complete various in project work) and has offered to sign them off as having completed the apprenticeship having all performed as expected and above, subsequent apprenticeships are apparently were going to be 3 years anyway.

But, not sure whether that is a good thing or not, he gets the stamp he needs but would it be seen as still being incomplete, or would leaving it incomplete be worse ?

Speed 3

4,563 posts

119 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Any new employer would review his OJT and perform their own onboarding so it probably wouldn't do any harm.

If you PM me with the exact status of his training pathway and experience I can get the training manager and QA manager at a well known UK airline to give me an opinion and make some recommendations as a "friend" (no promises of any job leads).

J4CKO

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Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Speed 3 said:
Any new employer would review his OJT and perform their own onboarding so it probably wouldn't do any harm.

If you PM me with the exact status of his training pathway and experience I can get the training manager and QA manager at a well known UK airline to give me an opinion and make some recommendations as a "friend" (no promises of any job leads).
Really appreciate that, will get him to detail that and I will PM you.


J4CKO

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Wednesday 25th September 2019
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He is getting it together this afternoon, was out until later climbing last night and him and the other apprentices are off to a FlyBe careers thing this morning.

IforB

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229 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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J4CKO said:
He is getting it together this afternoon, was out until later climbing last night and him and the other apprentices are off to a FlyBe careers thing this morning.
Christ, tell him to be careful there. Flybe is not the most stable of airlines, so if something else comes along, make sure he looks at that.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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I saw an advert crop up somewhere (might have been facebook) where Virgin Atlantic are opening a recruitment drive for cabin crew specifically from TC, they may be doing a similar thing for engineering/techs, could be worth googling, or even just pinging Virgin HR an e-mail.

J4CKO

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Thursday 26th September 2019
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AshVX220 said:
I saw an advert crop up somewhere (might have been facebook) where Virgin Atlantic are opening a recruitment drive for cabin crew specifically from TC, they may be doing a similar thing for engineering/techs, could be worth googling, or even just pinging Virgin HR an e-mail.
Yeah, he is aware of that one, got one tomorrow as well.

J4CKO

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Thursday 26th September 2019
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IforB said:
J4CKO said:
He is getting it together this afternoon, was out until later climbing last night and him and the other apprentices are off to a FlyBe careers thing this morning.
Christ, tell him to be careful there. Flybe is not the most stable of airlines, so if something else comes along, make sure he looks at that.
Yeah, wonder which ones are actually stable ?

He nearly went to Monarch, phew dodge a bullet there, for three years or so anyway biggrin

Surely after two big failures like that it might stabilise a bit more ?

He basically needs something he can fill up his logbook with at this stage, no particular responsibilities as yet so can take gambles say a married bloke with kids cant.

J4CKO

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Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Positive news, he has a role, with three of the five other ex TC apprentices at a company at Prestwick, trainee mech and all being well they start on Monday. The plan is to get trained and then be a fully fledged mech by May and do the rest of the part 66 exams, whilst working on live aircraft and getting his logbook filled.

Its going to be an upheaval and a logistical challenge but they are on it sorting accommodation and all the other stuff, I see a trip in a van up there in my near future.

Really appreciate all the help and advice we have received, hopefully this is their new path and gets them to where they are licensed aviation engineers.


ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Great news although I hope he likes the wind! And Glasgow isn’t too far away.