New forum, club for pre war owners - thoughts please.
Discussion
First off I am a BIG fan of PH.
I am rather unusual in that I am 40 and my chosen classic is a pre-war car. My car club is very good and does a lot on a shoestring but the age profile of 90% of them sadly puts me off social engagements.
I can't believe I am the only person with a pre-war car that knows who One Direction are (knows not likes) and therefore I wondered if there are any takers on here to build a community geared towards some of the more youthful vintage car (pre-war) owners?
I would be keen to hear from you or your thoughts generally.
Cheers
I am rather unusual in that I am 40 and my chosen classic is a pre-war car. My car club is very good and does a lot on a shoestring but the age profile of 90% of them sadly puts me off social engagements.
I can't believe I am the only person with a pre-war car that knows who One Direction are (knows not likes) and therefore I wondered if there are any takers on here to build a community geared towards some of the more youthful vintage car (pre-war) owners?
I would be keen to hear from you or your thoughts generally.
Cheers
You could ask the Mods for a separate area for Pre War cars, but Ted wasn't keen on too many sub-sections and ... 
Anyway, the VSCC is at Prescott "mud plugging" tomorrow (Cotswold Trial) and at Bicester Airfield in a couple of weeks. Typically all ages are represented on a trial; enthusiastic bouncers are desired.
We're going along tomorrow probably in the modern tin car and BiL is entered at Bicester in the wife's A7. I think Prescott is open to non members. Previous Bicester area events (Winter Driving Tests) were on MOD sites and were members only.
http://www.vscc.co.uk/page/news?newsItemID=458
Anyway, the VSCC is at Prescott "mud plugging" tomorrow (Cotswold Trial) and at Bicester Airfield in a couple of weeks. Typically all ages are represented on a trial; enthusiastic bouncers are desired.
We're going along tomorrow probably in the modern tin car and BiL is entered at Bicester in the wife's A7. I think Prescott is open to non members. Previous Bicester area events (Winter Driving Tests) were on MOD sites and were members only.
http://www.vscc.co.uk/page/news?newsItemID=458
davepen said:
...Bicester Airfield in a couple of weeks...
What's happening at Bicester Airfield? Surely there's no hills there? ETA - Found it
http://bicesterheritage.co.uk/events/vscc-driving-...Edited by RichB on Friday 21st November 18:19
There's a lot of pre-war action on Rick's forum: http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/ - he's occrj on here.
droopsnoot said:
There's a lot of pre-war action on Rick's forum: http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/ - he's occrj on here.
I'm on there, I didn't realise Rick was occrj RichB said:
davepen said:
...Bicester Airfield in a couple of weeks...
What's happening at Bicester Airfield? Surely there's no hills there? ETA - Found it
http://bicesterheritage.co.uk/events/vscc-driving-...Roy C said:
RichB said:
davepen said:
...Bicester Airfield in a couple of weeks...
What's happening at Bicester Airfield? Surely there's no hills there? ETA - Found it
http://bicesterheritage.co.uk/events/vscc-driving-...
RichB said:
Ah, that's rif-raf like me out then
Oh well, I think BH are doing some more open days soon.The Brooklands Driving Tests are open.
It wasn't my intention to hijack the original thread, just to say there are some events on which might appeal to the more youthful.
Back to the OP's idea....
The Telegraph yesterday had a spread on the VSCC Lakeland Trail.
Now Online.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/columnists/erin-ba...
Frazer Nash and A7 Ulsteriod on Drumhouse section.
Now Online.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/columnists/erin-ba...
Frazer Nash and A7 Ulsteriod on Drumhouse section.
back on topic - I instigated this for a couple of reasons:
1)so that the vast majority of elderly vintage pre-war owners have a recognised generation of enthusiast to pass the baton onto in terms of knowledge.
2) when there are major events likes Goodwood / Le Mans etc we are able to co-ordinate gatherings
I would like to say I am really active with my club but I am not. Principally because I have a job which occupies most of my time and then family at weekends. I can't be too different to most people in their 30's, 40's or 50's.
The club events that I have been to, bless them, 90% are retired or coffin dodgers (no offence but my father was one until he passed away in 2009). There seems little youthful involvement. We need younger people to become interested in these cars or they all just end up in museums/collections.
There has to be plenty of people with pre-war beauties bequeathed to them and they are looking for some friendly outings.
I have thought about chipping mine in for a modern but everytime I drive it I know why I don't do this. SO COME ON - see you on the front row of GFOS 2015!
1)so that the vast majority of elderly vintage pre-war owners have a recognised generation of enthusiast to pass the baton onto in terms of knowledge.
2) when there are major events likes Goodwood / Le Mans etc we are able to co-ordinate gatherings
I would like to say I am really active with my club but I am not. Principally because I have a job which occupies most of my time and then family at weekends. I can't be too different to most people in their 30's, 40's or 50's.
The club events that I have been to, bless them, 90% are retired or coffin dodgers (no offence but my father was one until he passed away in 2009). There seems little youthful involvement. We need younger people to become interested in these cars or they all just end up in museums/collections.
There has to be plenty of people with pre-war beauties bequeathed to them and they are looking for some friendly outings.
I have thought about chipping mine in for a modern but everytime I drive it I know why I don't do this. SO COME ON - see you on the front row of GFOS 2015!
Six years on, aged 33 and looking at 'post vintage' offerings, I thought I would bump this up.
By other hobby is steamboats, and Westfields, so I feel your pain in being half the age of the rest of the club. I'm currently trying to get them to engage in emails as a form of communicating with members.
Daniel
By other hobby is steamboats, and Westfields, so I feel your pain in being half the age of the rest of the club. I'm currently trying to get them to engage in emails as a form of communicating with members.
Daniel
dhutch said:
Six years on, aged 33 and looking at 'post vintage' offerings, I thought I would bump this up.
By other hobby is steamboats, and Westfields, so I feel your pain in being half the age of the rest of the club. I'm currently trying to get them to engage in emails as a form of communicating with members.
Daniel
I'm 70 and PH is just one on-line motoring forum of several that I belong to. Most of the ones for older cars, especially the Facebook groups, are full of elderly internet savvy enthusiasts and youngsters alike, some still in their teens. The VSCC events I've been to regularly have crews in their 20s and 30s with husband and wife teams quite common. In many cases their cars have been handed down from generation to generation in the same family and I know of one 12 year old girl who can't wait to be able to drive her grandfather's pre-war two-seater sports car and to have a FB account so she can join in the car chat.By other hobby is steamboats, and Westfields, so I feel your pain in being half the age of the rest of the club. I'm currently trying to get them to engage in emails as a form of communicating with members.
Daniel
Riley Blue said:
The VSCC events I've been to regularly have crews in their 20s and 30s ...
Mr Magoo (Alec) started this thread several years ago and a lot of what he says rings true with me. The LAgonda Club is mostly people in the 70s, I attend some of the smaller events because of my interest in the cars but it would be good to see a younger generation coming through. My favourites are smaller pub lunch type meet & chats. As for a dedicated sub forum, I suppose that is what this is "Classics and Yesterday's Heroes". I belong to several specialist Facebook Groups too and some of the forums Riley Blue belongs to RichB said:
Riley Blue said:
The VSCC events I've been to regularly have crews in their 20s and 30s ...
Mr Magoo (Alec) started this thread several years ago and a lot of what he says rings true with me. The LAgonda Club is mostly people in the 70s, I attend some of the smaller events because of my interest in the cars but it would be good to see a younger generation coming through. My favourites are smaller pub lunch type meet & chats. As for a dedicated sub forum, I suppose that is what this is "Classics and Yesterday's Heroes". I belong to several specialist Facebook Groups too and some of the forums Riley Blue belongs to The only club I belong to is in Scotland, I live in Derbyshire but its annual rally is well worth the 600 - 800 mile round trip. Apart from that I'm finished with clubs, almost all my driving is just the two of us, in our '63 Riley with three or four local charity drives to fill up the summer months. Pub based 'noggin & natters' make me shudder - sorry...
One of the more attractive features of playing with old motorcars is that the age of the player is irrelevant. I have never seen the attraction of age-defined organisations - I was never tempted by a Youth Club (or the boy scout movement) and half a century or more later I wouldn't be part of an old people's club.
There is a slight worry that the age profile within the VSCC and one-make clubs is not as even as it was, which is partly because the cars are expensive now. At about the time when I didn't join the Youth Club I bought a 1930 MG because it was cheap enough for me to do so.
I admit to being a member of a club for people who worked where I did and as the place closed in the mid 1990s we are all getting old, but it's not our age that defines our Club.
There is a slight worry that the age profile within the VSCC and one-make clubs is not as even as it was, which is partly because the cars are expensive now. At about the time when I didn't join the Youth Club I bought a 1930 MG because it was cheap enough for me to do so.
I admit to being a member of a club for people who worked where I did and as the place closed in the mid 1990s we are all getting old, but it's not our age that defines our Club.
Oh yeah, I'm mean please don't get me wrong, I don't think we need separate ph sub-forum, nor do I really think an age related owners club is helpful, unless it's an affiliated program within a large club like the NTET 'steam apprentice club'.
A lot is moving to facebook groups, which a great for sharing events and photos, and quick advice, but too transient for complex discussion or building up a portfolio of infomation. That said, and recommendations grateful received.
I've tried to join www.oldclassiccar.co.uk as it looked reasonable however it appears you have to be manually added, so I guess it's down to as and when the email gets processed.
Much of the advice is to 'join the owners club first' but is that the VSCC which appears to mainly be about racing, they all appear to be manufacture or even model special, which when you are still trying to decide if you want a Austin 16/6 , a Bullnose Morris or a Humber.
Daniel
A lot is moving to facebook groups, which a great for sharing events and photos, and quick advice, but too transient for complex discussion or building up a portfolio of infomation. That said, and recommendations grateful received.
I've tried to join www.oldclassiccar.co.uk as it looked reasonable however it appears you have to be manually added, so I guess it's down to as and when the email gets processed.
Much of the advice is to 'join the owners club first' but is that the VSCC which appears to mainly be about racing, they all appear to be manufacture or even model special, which when you are still trying to decide if you want a Austin 16/6 , a Bullnose Morris or a Humber.
Daniel
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