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Huntsman said:
Searider said:
I do fear that the mahogany planking on aluminium frames won't have survived well if the interior maintainance is a good as the exterior appears..
Indeed.Is she double and triple diag?
The military versions had timber internal framing, rather than the aluminium.
Searider said:
Huntsman said:
Searider said:
I do fear that the mahogany planking on aluminium frames won't have survived well if the interior maintainance is a good as the exterior appears..
Indeed.Is she double and triple diag?
The military versions had timber internal framing, rather than the aluminium.
I think one would has to accept that any rebuild is going to be massively invasive to the structure and work out the way to do it. Then take a deep breath.
Legmaster said:
Searider said:
AVV EM said:
12 spare??
Yes, lots - seems the Owner bought up everything he could.Haydon-Baillie might have lost the boat again (it was sold under his feet once before) as the company, Ronastone, in which he vested ownership is the subject of a compulsory winding up order. That little excursion might have been for pre-sale valuation purposes.
Many technical details regarding the vessel are contained in a high court judgement of one of Haydon Baillie legal cases. Bedtime reading.
Many technical details regarding the vessel are contained in a high court judgement of one of Haydon Baillie legal cases. Bedtime reading.
EddietheEagle said:
Haydon-Baillie might have lost the boat again (it was sold under his feet once before) as the company, Ronastone, in which he vested ownership is the subject of a compulsory winding up order. That little excursion might have been for pre-sale valuation purposes.
Many technical details regarding the vessel are contained in a high court judgement of one of Haydon Baillie legal cases. Bedtime reading.
Interesting first post.Many technical details regarding the vessel are contained in a high court judgement of one of Haydon Baillie legal cases. Bedtime reading.
Valuation....asset or liability?
The vessel was once given a valuation of £750,000 by a high court judge after Hayden Baillie took action against some punter who had earlier bought it (through his wife) in a fire sale for £500,000 when he was down and out. They later sold it back to him for £2 million having falsely claimed all manner of valuable refitting work had been carried out. Through both its origins and ownership, the boat has intrinsic interest as a historic craft. What it's actually worth now is anybody's guess but I doubt you'd be talking large sums. Beside, Hayden Baillie owns all the available engines and spares, or did!
Hayden Baillie's obsession with this craft is a book in itself. The man is a fantasist, a self-regarded industrialist but in reality an English Gatsby of sorts. Successful and well connected in his day when he built up a city following through Watshams/Optical & Medical Plc along with his sidekick henchman, Tony Gover, but seemingly naive in other aspects of his life. He came apart after one too many dud deals caused his institutional support to desert. Their daft and worthless 'investments' in his subsequent ventures, notably Porton International, served largely to float an expensive, out-to-impress, aristocratic lifestyle including the acquisition of Britain's largest stately home. He was certainly no Niarchos, not even remotely so despite the claim bandied around at the time that he was one of "Britain's richest". He's skint now, hence the forlorn condition of this vessel, although I guess that's better than ending up drifting lifeless across a swimming pool.
Hayden Baillie's obsession with this craft is a book in itself. The man is a fantasist, a self-regarded industrialist but in reality an English Gatsby of sorts. Successful and well connected in his day when he built up a city following through Watshams/Optical & Medical Plc along with his sidekick henchman, Tony Gover, but seemingly naive in other aspects of his life. He came apart after one too many dud deals caused his institutional support to desert. Their daft and worthless 'investments' in his subsequent ventures, notably Porton International, served largely to float an expensive, out-to-impress, aristocratic lifestyle including the acquisition of Britain's largest stately home. He was certainly no Niarchos, not even remotely so despite the claim bandied around at the time that he was one of "Britain's richest". He's skint now, hence the forlorn condition of this vessel, although I guess that's better than ending up drifting lifeless across a swimming pool.
Some Guy said:
The white one on the other side of the river?
Wasn't it used in an episode of Ultimate Force?
Do you mean Luymes? The ship that old man Wilment wanted to turn into a yacht?Wasn't it used in an episode of Ultimate Force?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/fatdeeman/2885136183
RoverP6B said:
Any further updates regarding this beautiful, iconic vessel? I do hope she is restored - to see her whoosh past at 60 knots would be something really special.
Funnily enough I'm looking at P6B's at the moment.No change with Brave Challenger, she's back on her mooring. She's very complex and very poorly.
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