BMW M135i Insuranace

BMW M135i Insuranace

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joshwest008

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3 posts

95 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Right, something that gets covered on a daily here but I'm geniuenly shocked with insurance costs and how seriously badly the whole system is managed. I'm nearly 22 years old, 3 years no claims, had a 350z for a year, a couple of RX8's including an R3 and i was lucky enough to bag myself a BMW M135i!! so a 3.5l 350z when i was 19-20 was £1500 for the year insurance with a no fault accident a year before which bumped my insurance by £500 for someone running into the back of me stationary!!! Not bitter - promise... then last year i was in a pile up where the car in front hit the car in front of him and i sadly didn't see him slam on brakes in time for me to stop on the m25 leading me to go into back of him, minimal damage. NO ONE CLAIMED. Insurance quotes before i bought it were around £1700, but for some reason they are now asking £4000 WITHOUT A BLACK BOX FOR NO REASON THAT I CAN CLEARLY SEE. ITS INFURIATING. Does anyone have any tips rather than get rid of the car... that can help, insurance now is just a joke. Im in a well paid job but i cannot see how people afford to drive cars. the premiums are so poorly maintained and are quite frankly a con. ANGRY POST DONE.

lord trumpton

7,380 posts

126 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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You must be angry - it's taken you 13 months to post up smile

Other than trying various companies for quotes and using the online comparison stuff then not a lot else you can do.

Unfortunately you are a typical high risk statistic - young lad, fast car with previous

joshwest008

Original Poster:

3 posts

95 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Signed up to sell a few vehicles, 13months of built up rage I guess... hahaha. I understand the stats, but where do you get a number that's 1/3 of the value of the car, and NCB seems to make no difference!

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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You are 21 and have a quick car. In the insurers eyes you could do a lot of damage to your car and to other peoples property. As has been said, you also have previous. Thats why the cost is what it is.

joshwest008

Original Poster:

3 posts

95 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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I get that, but a 3.5l 350z which has become popular with all the local Rudeboys was only £1500 at 19-20 years old. But before I bought the car I got a quote for £1700 with everything mentioned but now I own it, they want twice as much?!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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joshwest008 said:
Right, something that gets covered on a daily here but I'm geniuenly shocked with insurance costs and how seriously badly the whole system is managed. I'm nearly 22 years old, 3 years no claims, had a 350z for a year, a couple of RX8's including an R3 and i was lucky enough to bag myself a BMW M135i!! so a 3.5l 350z when i was 19-20 was £1500 for the year insurance with a no fault accident a year before which bumped my insurance by £500 for someone running into the back of me stationary!!! Not bitter - promise... then last year i was in a pile up where the car in front hit the car in front of him and i sadly didn't see him slam on brakes in time for me to stop on the m25 leading me to go into back of him, minimal damage. NO ONE CLAIMED. Insurance quotes before i bought it were around £1700, but for some reason they are now asking £4000 WITHOUT A BLACK BOX FOR NO REASON THAT I CAN CLEARLY SEE. ITS INFURIATING. Does anyone have any tips rather than get rid of the car... that can help, insurance now is just a joke. Im in a well paid job but i cannot see how people afford to drive cars. the premiums are so poorly maintained and are quite frankly a con. ANGRY POST DONE.
You're young and don't have much driving experience.
You've been in two collisions in a fairly short amount of time.
You've got an expensive, fast car that people your age have a habit of binning.
You've got an expensive car that people like to nick.

Your premium is £4k for one simple reason... Because insurers think there's a very good chance their hand is going to be in their pocket before the year's out.

joshwest008 said:
but where do you get a number that's 1/3 of the value of the car
Because if you do something silly, their hand won't be in their pocket JUST for the value of your car, will it?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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md4776 said:
How much is it with the black box?
Why on earth would a 22yo with an M135i accept a black box policy...? Are you mad...?

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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It looks like its that or pay £4k!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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DoubleD said:
It looks like its that or pay £4k!
Wah! So unfair!

CarAbuser

695 posts

124 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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I didn't realise you could pick up a M135i for £12,000. Is it a CAT D or something?

CivBrum

125 posts

83 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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I'd suggest your price on the 350z was relatively cheap. At 24, I was getting quoted 1200 on a 1.0 2001 VW Polo, 50bhp.

Though insurance premiums are getting ridiculous.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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CarAbuser said:
I didn't realise you could pick up a M135i for £12,000. Is it a CAT D or something?
There's 9 on Autotrader under £16k - and two of them are CatD, one CatC...

Spidersleg

679 posts

83 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Beginning to wonder is there is some scam going on. Tin foil hats at the ready....

Ive seen a few posts now and have experienced it myself where people get quotes online for a car they are looking to buy and the quote is good/reasonable, then comes the time to purchase/lease the car then low and behold the premium has gone up massively! I had this with a golf R, luckily I did another quote just before pulling the trigger on a lease deal and my quote had doubled to £550 odd.

justnow

436 posts

93 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Try some independent specialists for quotes, even Direct Line. Having my car parked on the road was cheaper than on the drive and my excess being cheaper was actually cheaper over all. Even tweaking your job title to something that is the same in effect also can bring the cost down.

bmw320ci

595 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Renewal for my M4, 8 Years NCD 1.5year old car... 43years of age.

£1500!!!!

take it on the chin, its the price you have to pay for the uninsured loss you may cause

STe_rsv4

654 posts

98 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Just to put this into some sort of context...
You are driving a rear wheel drive hot hatch with circa 320bhp at 22 years old and are complaining that your insurance is a tad expensive?

when I was 22 I was driving a 10 year old 105bhp ford Orion with 4 years no claims and was paying almost £1000 back then!!!!
Im now paying almost £500 on my M235I now and that with 17 years NCB.

How much do you think you should be paying?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Spidersleg said:
Ive seen a few posts now and have experienced it myself where people get quotes online for a car they are looking to buy and the quote is good/reasonable, then comes the time to purchase/lease the car then low and behold the premium has gone up massively! I had this with a golf R, luckily I did another quote just before pulling the trigger on a lease deal and my quote had doubled to £550 odd.
Insurance is a LOT more expensive if you get a quote on the day you want the policy to start. It just is. If you've had the quote from before, it should still be honoured as long as it's within a month or so. If you find you need it on the day, then start the policy, go home, get a quote for a week's time, tell them you want that, then once it starts cancel the expensive one within the 14 days you have by law after the paperwork arrives. They can only charge you pro-rata for the actual cover within that 14 days, but can charge you for any other services, such as finance.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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STe_rsv4 said:
Just to put this into some sort of context...
You are driving a rear wheel drive hot hatch with circa 320bhp at 22 years old and are complaining that your insurance is a tad expensive?

when I was 22 I was driving a 10 year old 105bhp ford Orion with 4 years no claims and was paying almost £1000 back then!!!!
Im now paying almost £500 on my M235I now and that with 17 years NCB.

How much do you think you should be paying?
Likewise, at 21 I was driving a BMW E30 318i with a mere 113bhp, with 3 years NCB and a fully clean licence, and was was paying £1,300 after much haggling and also having completed my 'Pass-plus'.

I badly wanted a Sierra Cosworth at the time, but I didn't get one because the cheapest insurance quote I could get was the wrong side of £3,500!

This was almost 12 years ago. £4,000 now for an M135i at 21 years old (with that insurance history) sounds pretty much spot on, and suggests that premiums haven't changed an awful lot over the last 10 years.

ETA: in fact I'd say the insurance cost for a Sierra Cosworth in 2005 is a pretty decent comparison to the M135i in 2017 in terms of RWD/performance/desirability to thieves etc!

Edited by Squirrelofwoe on Wednesday 28th June 11:42

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Squirrelofwoe said:
I badly wanted a Sierra Cosworth at the time, but I didn't get one because the cheapest insurance quote I could get was the wrong side of £3,500!

This was almost 12 years ago. £4,000 now for an M135i at 21 years old (with that insurance history) sounds pretty much spot on, and suggests that premiums haven't changed an awful lot over the last 10 years.
Inflation alone would put that 2005 £3,500 to £5k.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
I badly wanted a Sierra Cosworth at the time, but I didn't get one because the cheapest insurance quote I could get was the wrong side of £3,500!

This was almost 12 years ago. £4,000 now for an M135i at 21 years old (with that insurance history) sounds pretty much spot on, and suggests that premiums haven't changed an awful lot over the last 10 years.
Inflation alone would put that 2005 £3,500 to £5k.
Ah yes I hadn't considered that getmecoat

The £4k looks even better value!