One of Their Subs is Missing

One of Their Subs is Missing

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Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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They don't need their own rescue sub as long as they're not too proud to ask for one. That's the key if it's sunk, rather than being adrift on the surface.

Gargamel

14,987 posts

261 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Krikkit said:
They don't need their own rescue sub as long as they're not too proud to ask for one. That's the key if it's sunk, rather than being adrift on the surface.
I think the UK and the RN are going to help out.

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Krikkit said:
They don't need their own rescue sub as long as they're not too proud to ask for one. That's the key if it's sunk, rather than being adrift on the surface.
Time is the key factor, in the RN used to have a system whereby a sub would advise of surfacing time before it submerged.

Can't remember the time but x hours past the due surfacing time if nothing was heard they initiated a "Submiss", and after y hours a "Subsmash", something like that, was a long time ago.

Now they have to find it, and get the rescue system to the location. I am guessing in these days an incapacitated sub would release a buoyant beacon which would be picked up on satellite.


768

13,680 posts

96 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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James TiT said:
Rogue86 said:
Maybe the boys in Hereford would like a sub to match their helos! biggrin
More apply for they guys at Poole?
This influx of bots is tedious.

James TiT

234 posts

86 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Rogue86 said:
Maybe the boys in Hereford would like a sub to match their helos! biggrin
They have been embarked on submarines from time to time actually.

768

13,680 posts

96 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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James TiT said:
Rogue86 said:
Maybe the boys in Hereford would like a sub to match their helos! biggrin
They have been embarked on submarines from time to time actually.
Two levels of quoting break your algorithm or something?

bishbosh66

118 posts

122 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Vipers said:
Time is the key factor, in the RN used to have a system whereby a sub would advise of surfacing time before it submerged.

Can't remember the time but x hours past the due surfacing time if nothing was heard they initiated a "Submiss", and after y hours a "Subsmash", something like that, was a long time ago.

Now they have to find it, and get the rescue system to the location. I am guessing in these days an incapacitated sub would release a buoyant beacon which would be picked up on satellite.
SUBLOOK, SUBMISS then SUBSUNK if memory serves. The timings of them from the scheduled surfacing time has been lost to my fading memory (Radio Supervisors course was a long time ago), I thnk SMASHEX was the practice version

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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BBC says sub had surfaced, and reported a breakdown, in its last communication. Also that the signals picked up over the weekend were not from the sub's satellite phone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-4205...

Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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bishbosh66 said:
Vipers said:
Time is the key factor, in the RN used to have a system whereby a sub would advise of surfacing time before it submerged.

Can't remember the time but x hours past the due surfacing time if nothing was heard they initiated a "Submiss", and after y hours a "Subsmash", something like that, was a long time ago.

Now they have to find it, and get the rescue system to the location. I am guessing in these days an incapacitated sub would release a buoyant beacon which would be picked up on satellite.
SUBLOOK, SUBMISS then SUBSUNK if memory serves. The timings of them from the scheduled surfacing time has been lost to my fading memory (Radio Supervisors course was a long time ago), I thnk SMASHEX was the practice version
Roger on that "pots", (that will confuse some of our readers), can't remember SUBLOOK, but do remember SMASHEX now you mention it. Long time ago as you said, Mercury 63.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Argentine navy is reporting hearing sounds that could be from their sub. Fingers crossed.


ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Argentine navy is reporting hearing sounds that could be from their sub. Fingers crossed.
From an organic source. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/20/miss...

Viewing the video that’s some very difficult seas to search in.

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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A heat source has been found by the US and vessels now investigating. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/heat-signatu...

Croutons

9,876 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Heat patch not useful.

Time running out. This would be a truly horrid way to go.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/22/missing...

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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If someone was bashing a hammer on the inside of the hull from what distance would a searching ship be able to detect it?


MartG

20,676 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
If someone was bashing a hammer on the inside of the hull from what distance would a searching ship be able to detect it?
There are a lot of factors affecting sound transmission underwater ( thermoclines, inversion layers, plankton layers ) - a hammer could be heard for a hundred miles in some conditions but be inaudible 100m away under others frown

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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They reported a problem with the batteries; if so, they might have been running the diesel engine on the surface, with people on the conning tower and the hatch open in 30 foot waves, got broadside on and over she rolls, down-flooding through the hatch and good night Buenos Aires.

But I hope she is found with the crew alive.

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Possibly found near where it went missing. Missing Argentinian sub: US navy detects unidentified object

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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ecsrobin said:
Possibly found near where it went missing. Missing Argentinian sub: US navy detects unidentified object
Apparently not it


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-argentina-subma...

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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They’re now saying the noise heard near where the vessel went missing was an explosion.

I’m slightly confused why they didn’t investigate this line of thought at the beginning?