Airlander 10 "breaks in two"

Airlander 10 "breaks in two"

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mcdjl

5,438 posts

194 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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otherman said:
As usual with BBC headlines and inverted commas,

Airlander 'breaks in two'

really means

Airlander doesn't break in two.
I was reading it and thinking the same. The eye witless saw it break in two, the company says it autodeflated and they will get it flying soon, saying nothing about it breaking.

V41LEY

2,889 posts

237 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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If Airlander describe that heap of trash on the ground as a safety precaution triggered by the 'auto-deflate' mode I'd hate to see an unplanned deflation.

eltawater

3,107 posts

178 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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There were multiple stages to the deflation. The first stage happened when the Airlander broke away from the mast, triggering an automated tearing mechanism to prevent the Airlander from bouncing away and flattening some local houses. The "breaking in two" was probably just a way to describe how it split.





The completely collapsed stage was after the emergency services and the HAV team were finished onsite extracting the remaining Helium and Aviation fuel.

Cyder

7,045 posts

219 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Have stood in the field in the exact spot it's now parked in having a nosey a few times.
It's an impressive piece of engineering but I really struggle to see the point now, quite elegant to see in flight though.

saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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I still like this cartoon from the previous 'crash'



yes

ETA Just found the real photo



Edited by saaby93 on Monday 20th November 14:09

Wiccan of Darkness

1,838 posts

82 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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This thing?



I reckon it just farted.

perdu

4,884 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Looks as if they borrowed a couple of Mary Poppin's spare umbrellas

carreauchompeur

17,830 posts

203 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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It all looks a bit guichey. There's even a little man in the boat

LotusOmega375D

7,580 posts

152 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Apparently all the residents of Cardington village now talk like Joe Pasquale.

tonyvid

9,869 posts

242 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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rofl
LotusOmega375D said:
Apparently all the residents of Cardington village now talk like Joe Pasquale.
rofl

Bonefish Blues

26,448 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Have another rofl

Skii

1,625 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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needs another

rofl

Red Devil

13,055 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Better still. Have a couple.
They match the double gas bags. smile

roflrofl

grumpy52

5,565 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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LotusOmega375D said:
Apparently all the residents of Cardington village now talk like Joe Pasquale.
When I used to drink in the Exeter Arms or the Kings Head a few of the locals sounded like Joe Pasquale on skittles night .
Airships seem to be fated at Cardington.

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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grumpy52 said:
When I used to drink in the Exeter Arms or the Kings Head a few of the locals sounded like Joe Pasquale on skittles night .
Airships seem to be fated at Cardington.
Not really anything to do with Cardington. It just so happens that's where most UK airship operations have been based. You could say the same for Lakehurst or Friedrichshafen.

tmk2

708 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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LotusOmega375D said:
Apparently all the residents of Cardington village now talk like Joe Pasquale.
Easy! My neighbour who lives further down that end of the village went to have a look but was warned away by the police as there was "dangerous gases" around.

dukeboy749r

2,539 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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For all the talk of this being somewhat an irrelevance, they have managed to raise over £20m

Yet, if this happens in England, what would happen in a disaster area where this was supposed to be transporting key supplies?

Odd to see this as the future perhaps?

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

278 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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back of an envelope maths:

Airlander 10 is 92m long and 26m high, so a side area of 2,392 square meters. (wiki)

Wind power at 50 metres altitude is 400 watts per square meter if the wind speed is 15 knots (google).

So wind energy hitting Airlander 10 (if stationery, and perpendicular to the wind direction) is 956,800 watts.

She has 4 × 4 litre V8 turbocharged diesel engines, 242 kW (325 hp) each, so a total of 968,000 watts.

So in a side wind like that she would need all her engines to be facing exactly sideways, at almost full power, just to avoid being blown away, and no spare power for forward flight.

What could possibly go wrong?

(awaits correction by more knowledgeable folk, possibly invoking basic errors in arithmetic or the behavior of lighter than air craft in wind, who might also mention that her profile is rounded, not flat, so some wind energy would be diverted around her, but still..)



saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
back of an envelope maths:

Airlander 10 is 92m long and 26m high, so a side area of 2,392 square meters. (wiki)

Wind power at 50 metres altitude is 400 watts per square meter if the wind speed is 15 knots (google).

So wind energy hitting Airlander 10 (if stationery, and perpendicular to the wind direction) is 956,800 watts.

She has 4 × 4 litre V8 turbocharged diesel engines, 242 kW (325 hp) each, so a total of 968,000 watts.

So in a side wind like that she would need all her engines to be facing exactly sideways, at almost full power, just to avoid being blown away, and no spare power for forward flight.

What could possibly go wrong?

(awaits correction by more knowledgeable folk, possibly invoking basic errors in arithmetic or the behavior of lighter than air craft in wind, who might also mention that her profile is rounded, not flat, so some wind energy would be diverted around her, but still..)
Isnt the idea like with a hot air balloon you either generally go with the flow or change height to suit alternative wind directions.
And check the weather forecast

eltawater

3,107 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Maybe we should bolt an extra engine to the end of it and make it even more hybrid?

getmecoat