Fally-over houseboat ship project

Fally-over houseboat ship project

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Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Huntsman said:
A rebuild does not have to meet current regs, do can result in a prettier hull form.
That makes sense (of my query)

Realistically how close could you get to the original hull design of the ship being discussed here, what about it is non conforming?

Shame as if I had the inclination/money for a big old yacht something looking like that but with all modern safety/conveniences tucked underneath appeals far more than your typical oligarchs plastic palace.

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Teddy Lop said:
I'm guessing it's about provenance, do boats have this the same way as cars, where someone will pull a lump of pig iron out of a lake and go "behold, a Bugatti", then a few years and a few bob later they're driving around in an actual car and claiming it's related to aforementioned lump o pig iron as that's the difference between a bug and a rep.
I think there is something about provenance, but also if what you want is something which looks like a 1920 yacht, a yacht from the 1920s is a good start, even if you remake the whole thing it's free design and pattern, and I expect a lot will actually be ok to use again.

Plus as said, you might well not be allowed to make it that shape by modern regs.

Arnold Cunningham

3,767 posts

253 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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She was never economically viable. She will only be restored as a labour of love and very very deep pockets. It will cost more to restore her than it would to build new from scratch, imvho.

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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LLYS HELIG UPDATES

So, finally, things are coming together for the Llys Helig to depart from Burnham-on-Crouch after about 30 years. The BISON dry dock, which looks like a giant floating box 100ft long, is now moored in position just a little out in the river.

We are going to make the first try to get Llys Helig into the dry dock tomorrow morning (Friday) at 09.00. The dock gets sunk, Llys Helig should float in easily on the high tide, and then settle onto the cradle built inside. Once she is secure, we pump out the dry dock, and then on a high tide we are off to Rochford. Watch this space and Llys Helig on twitter for updates.

From the FB page, which also has images.

Arnold Cunningham

3,767 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Huntsman

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8,054 posts

250 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Extraciting!

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Arnold Cunningham

3,767 posts

253 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Freeboard at the bow is negligible. How are they doing to stop any waves coming over and flooding the dock?

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Almost looks like it doesn't fit...

... But I guess you have that end as the back, maybe stick some boards or heavy duty tarps around it, and it's it's enough. They will have big pumps onboard, the dock presumably had floatation of its own, pick a nice day, happy days. Likely why she went in stern first too.

Arnold Cunningham

3,767 posts

253 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Yes, agree that will be the stern. And lots of grids & partitions in the dock too so any water that goes in goes straight down to the keel in a constrained partition. Free Surface Effect is otherwise a massive problem - Herald of Free Enterprise.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Update on FB UPDATE - we aren’t leaving today! Team has taken decision to do the tow in one go from Burnham to Rochford, so we’ll check the dry dock is ready over next couple of days and depart probably Monday.

hidetheelephants

24,311 posts

193 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Arnold Cunningham said:
Freeboard at the bow is negligible. How are they doing to stop any waves coming over and flooding the dock?
It's open; any water that makes its way in will drain out, although if it were caught in a seaway it's possible if the reserve of buoyancy was low enough that free water could build up enough to swamp it. amongst other reasons this will be why they are waiting to do the move.

ETA; the dock bottom has a good 12" freeboard forward and appears trimmed by the bow so it will drain readily.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Saturday 21st January 20:15

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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tr7v8 said:
Update on FB UPDATE - we aren’t leaving today! Team has taken decision to do the tow in one go from Burnham to Rochford, so we’ll check the dry dock is ready over next couple of days and depart probably Monday.
It would be nice to follow it on Marinetraffic, but I guess it doesn't have the relevant transponder.

Well done - let's hope it stays cock-up free!

Arnold Cunningham

3,767 posts

253 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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The tug(s) probably will

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st January 2023
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Yeah I was going to say, it'll be the tugs your tracking I expect.

-Cappo-

19,582 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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There are some great drone shots of it moving into the bison here: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=54394047110229...

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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Arnold Cunningham

3,767 posts

253 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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That will have been the last time she floats on her own keel. Absolutely convinced she’ll be cut up for scrap

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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Why did they have the dry dock at right angles to the boat, not in line with it...?