ULEZ coming to Birmingham
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Not sure if this has been posted but an 'Ultra Low Emission Zone' is coming to Birmingham with quite a large catchment area.
Any vehicles below Euro 4 petrol standard (prior to 2006) and Euro 6 diesel (prior 2015) will be charged up to £10 per day, 7 days per week. No exemption for LPG converted vehicles.
I am not against the idea in principle but the catchment area looks very wide to me and that could cause a problem for a lot of people.
Any vehicles below Euro 4 petrol standard (prior to 2006) and Euro 6 diesel (prior 2015) will be charged up to £10 per day, 7 days per week. No exemption for LPG converted vehicles.
I am not against the idea in principle but the catchment area looks very wide to me and that could cause a problem for a lot of people.
thole...No surprise whatsoever - my crystal ball tells me that by 2020 every major city in the UK will have announced and in some cases implemented this (look at european cities - crit air in France for example).
By 2025 I bet it's also been introduced in a lot of big towns too.
This process is accelerating faster than I thought - that 2040 ban on IC engines might look a distant situation, but the reality is that stuff like ULEZs and local restrictions will to all intents kill them off well before then. I give it a decade.
By 2025 I bet it's also been introduced in a lot of big towns too.
This process is accelerating faster than I thought - that 2040 ban on IC engines might look a distant situation, but the reality is that stuff like ULEZs and local restrictions will to all intents kill them off well before then. I give it a decade.
I read that they were planning to exclude the tunnels for drivers passing through, but you'd expect at least some impact for visitor numbers to the Bullring etc. We're based just outside the zone but regularly drive into the centre - fortunately all but one of our vehicles would be excluded from the charge.
morrisk1 said:
I read that they were planning to exclude the tunnels for drivers passing through, but you'd expect at least some impact for visitor numbers to the Bullring etc. We're based just outside the zone but regularly drive into the centre - fortunately all but one of our vehicles would be excluded from the charge.
Possibly impact on those who drive in to concerts in the various venues and park in one of the many multi storey car parks. They will be hit.Of course there is the option of trains from wherever, or the buses out along the Hagley road, but if you think folks are going to use those services of an evening, good luck.
One more place to avoid. London, tick, Birmingham, tick. Now Worcester that would be a pita to me if ever it comes to pass. What am I saying, if, more like when.
I'm from London but I'm gonna speak up for Birmingham.
I often go there, it's a FANTASTIC city.
Great shopping, restaurants, interesting buildings, love the Theatre and the people.
I've always found it pretty easy to get around too.
Often those who run it down have only ever driven past on the M6 and make a judgement based on that.
Spend some time there, great place.
I often go there, it's a FANTASTIC city.
Great shopping, restaurants, interesting buildings, love the Theatre and the people.
I've always found it pretty easy to get around too.
Often those who run it down have only ever driven past on the M6 and make a judgement based on that.
Spend some time there, great place.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-445329...
Clean air zones for Leeds, Birmingham, Nottingham, Derby and Southampton by 2020.
Clean air zones for Leeds, Birmingham, Nottingham, Derby and Southampton by 2020.
Leroy902 said:
To the losers coming on and and asking why you'd go to the area anyway, get a life and move on.
In recent years Birmingham has come on a lot. I was surprised when I moved back to the area as 15 years ago (when I left) it was looking quite run down. Unfortunately I can see this tax reversing much of that success.
Fastdruid said:
Wobbegong said:
That’ll be great for the people living and working there 
It’ll cost workers in the zone £50 extra per week to get to work,
Only those with diesels. It’ll cost workers in the zone £50 extra per week to get to work,
Unlike local government, most people don’t have access to a magic money tree, and can not afford to keep changing their vehicles.
Southampton are implementing this. Their key driver of air quality in the city is all the cruise liners running bunker oil to stay powered when in port.
Instead of putting in power to the dock gates to provide a hook up for the liners they charge the motorists. Best bit is that the docks have a geothermal energy plant right next to them! Madness.
They have cunningly flagged all main arteries in and out fir some miles as clean air zoned as well as the centre itself. Unfortunately the train station is inside also so you need to pay even if you are looking to escape the city. Southampton charges are expected to be £18.50 and parking for diesels goes up one third.
Instead of putting in power to the dock gates to provide a hook up for the liners they charge the motorists. Best bit is that the docks have a geothermal energy plant right next to them! Madness.
They have cunningly flagged all main arteries in and out fir some miles as clean air zoned as well as the centre itself. Unfortunately the train station is inside also so you need to pay even if you are looking to escape the city. Southampton charges are expected to be £18.50 and parking for diesels goes up one third.
To be fair to the government, the original 2015 plan for the five regional (non-London) 2020 Clean Air Zones excluded private vehicles, but this was altered by legal challenge.
The ULEZ/CAZ standards in any case are easy to meet for most people, but the lack of publicity and central government coordination is worrying. No doubt some people will be buying non-compliant vehicles right up to the deadline(s), and will face a big cost to change vehicle at the last minute.
The ULEZ/CAZ standards in any case are easy to meet for most people, but the lack of publicity and central government coordination is worrying. No doubt some people will be buying non-compliant vehicles right up to the deadline(s), and will face a big cost to change vehicle at the last minute.
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