Mach Loop Typhoon ‘Incident’.
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Anyone who has ever done it knows that low flying is simply fun.
Dangerous and often monumentally stupid, but a lot of fun.
I can certainly neither confirm or deny that an aircraft I may have signed out went under some cables stretched over a river once and I certainly don't have any photographic evidence of it.
Ahh to be 20, invincible (read stupid) and being handed a perfectly good aeroplane and told to go off and play without supervision.
Dangerous and often monumentally stupid, but a lot of fun.
I can certainly neither confirm or deny that an aircraft I may have signed out went under some cables stretched over a river once and I certainly don't have any photographic evidence of it.
Ahh to be 20, invincible (read stupid) and being handed a perfectly good aeroplane and told to go off and play without supervision.
- Stares wistfully off into the distance wondering what the hell happened to my life *
IforB said:
Anyone who has ever done it knows that low flying is simply fun.
Dangerous and often monumentally stupid, but a lot of fun.
I can certainly neither confirm or deny that an aircraft I may have signed out went under some cables stretched over a river once and I certainly don't have any photographic evidence of it.
Ahh to be 20, invincible (read stupid) and being handed a perfectly good aeroplane and told to go off and play without supervision.
Marshside and the Ribble estuary may have seen some less than 500 ft flyingDangerous and often monumentally stupid, but a lot of fun.
I can certainly neither confirm or deny that an aircraft I may have signed out went under some cables stretched over a river once and I certainly don't have any photographic evidence of it.
Ahh to be 20, invincible (read stupid) and being handed a perfectly good aeroplane and told to go off and play without supervision.
- Stares wistfully off into the distance wondering what the hell happened to my life *
Speaking of a lot of fun, My office, no coffee, at attention, cap off, ....
https://twitter.com/Aviationdailyy/status/10637249...
https://twitter.com/Aviationdailyy/status/10637249...
Probably bits caught in the landing gear while up
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Buccaneer
In order to dramatically improve aerodynamic performance at slow speeds, such as during take off and landing, Blackburn adopted a new aerodynamic control technology, known as boundary layer control (BLC). BLC bled high pressure air directly from the engines, which was 'blown' against various parts of the aircraft's wing surfaces. A full-span slit along the part of the wing's trailing edge was found to give almost 50% more lift than any contemporary scheme.[44] In order to counteract the severe pitch movements that would otherwise be generated by use of BLC, a self-trimming system was interconnected with the BLC system, and additional blowing of the wing's leading edge was also introduced. The use of BLC allowed the use of slats to be entirely discarded in the design.[44]
Before landing, the pilot would open the BLC vents as well as lower the flaps to achieve slow, stable flight. A consequence of the blown wing was that the engines were required to run at high power for low-speed flight; in order to generate sufficient compressor gas for blowing. Blackburn's solution to this situation was the adoption of a large air brake; this also allowed an overshooting aircraft to pull away more quickly during a failed landing attempt.[45] The nose cone and radar antenna could also be swung around by 180 degrees to reduce the length of the aircraft in the carrier hangar. This feature was particularly important due to the small size of the aircraft carriers that the Buccaneer typically operated from.[46]
For a carrier take-off, the Buccaneer was pulled tail-down on the catapult, with its nosewheel in the air to put the wing at about 11°; it could be launched 'hands-off' - the pilot able to leave the tailplane in a neutral position.[47] With blowing on, the Spey 101 output drops to around 9,100 pounds-force (40,000 N), though about 600 pounds-force (2,700 N) is recovered from the trailing edge slits which face aft. About 70% of the blown air goes over the flaps and ailerons, which are in a drooped position.[48] Off an aircraft carrier, the minimum launch speed was around 120 knots (220 km/h; 140 mph) at 43,000 pounds (20,000 kg); from an airfield, the Buccaneer took off in 3,000 feet (900 m) at 144 knots (267 km/h; 166 mph) with blown air, the figures become 3,700 feet (1,100 m) at 175 knots (325 km/h; 200 mph) without blown air.[49]
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Buccaneer
In order to dramatically improve aerodynamic performance at slow speeds, such as during take off and landing, Blackburn adopted a new aerodynamic control technology, known as boundary layer control (BLC). BLC bled high pressure air directly from the engines, which was 'blown' against various parts of the aircraft's wing surfaces. A full-span slit along the part of the wing's trailing edge was found to give almost 50% more lift than any contemporary scheme.[44] In order to counteract the severe pitch movements that would otherwise be generated by use of BLC, a self-trimming system was interconnected with the BLC system, and additional blowing of the wing's leading edge was also introduced. The use of BLC allowed the use of slats to be entirely discarded in the design.[44]
Before landing, the pilot would open the BLC vents as well as lower the flaps to achieve slow, stable flight. A consequence of the blown wing was that the engines were required to run at high power for low-speed flight; in order to generate sufficient compressor gas for blowing. Blackburn's solution to this situation was the adoption of a large air brake; this also allowed an overshooting aircraft to pull away more quickly during a failed landing attempt.[45] The nose cone and radar antenna could also be swung around by 180 degrees to reduce the length of the aircraft in the carrier hangar. This feature was particularly important due to the small size of the aircraft carriers that the Buccaneer typically operated from.[46]
For a carrier take-off, the Buccaneer was pulled tail-down on the catapult, with its nosewheel in the air to put the wing at about 11°; it could be launched 'hands-off' - the pilot able to leave the tailplane in a neutral position.[47] With blowing on, the Spey 101 output drops to around 9,100 pounds-force (40,000 N), though about 600 pounds-force (2,700 N) is recovered from the trailing edge slits which face aft. About 70% of the blown air goes over the flaps and ailerons, which are in a drooped position.[48] Off an aircraft carrier, the minimum launch speed was around 120 knots (220 km/h; 140 mph) at 43,000 pounds (20,000 kg); from an airfield, the Buccaneer took off in 3,000 feet (900 m) at 144 knots (267 km/h; 166 mph) with blown air, the figures become 3,700 feet (1,100 m) at 175 knots (325 km/h; 200 mph) without blown air.[49]
Look at minute 2.30 as is does a close pass to HMS Liverpool. The highest part of the Liverpool was about the same height as the flight deck of the old Ark Royal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lteL18wd15Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lteL18wd15Y
Ayahuasca said:
Many years ago my wife and I went to an airshow at RAF Finningley.
Up against the rope that kept spectators off the runway was a pair of 'spotters'. They had set up a square perimeter with windbreaks to separate themselves from the spectators. Like the VIP section of a nightclub. They had chairs, camping equipment and tons of photography stuff. They wore bomber jackets covered in squadron insignia and various patches (no doubt awarded for spotter valour?), baseball caps with similar, and aviator sunglasses.
There was a Tornado waiting to take off, and the pilot waved to the crowd.
The wave was obviously meant just for the spotters, because they immediately straightened up, stuck their chins out, nodded and gave the pilot a thumbs-up sign that meant 'yes mate, we are in the same team, you and us, we know you don't care about the other spectators here, we know you recognize us.'
We still have a chuckle about it.
I was hoping you'd say that the pilot opened the taps and blew them all away !Up against the rope that kept spectators off the runway was a pair of 'spotters'. They had set up a square perimeter with windbreaks to separate themselves from the spectators. Like the VIP section of a nightclub. They had chairs, camping equipment and tons of photography stuff. They wore bomber jackets covered in squadron insignia and various patches (no doubt awarded for spotter valour?), baseball caps with similar, and aviator sunglasses.
There was a Tornado waiting to take off, and the pilot waved to the crowd.
The wave was obviously meant just for the spotters, because they immediately straightened up, stuck their chins out, nodded and gave the pilot a thumbs-up sign that meant 'yes mate, we are in the same team, you and us, we know you don't care about the other spectators here, we know you recognize us.'
We still have a chuckle about it.
woodypup59 said:
Ayahuasca said:
Many years ago my wife and I went to an airshow at RAF Finningley.
Up against the rope that kept spectators off the runway was a pair of 'spotters'. They had set up a square perimeter with windbreaks to separate themselves from the spectators. Like the VIP section of a nightclub. They had chairs, camping equipment and tons of photography stuff. They wore bomber jackets covered in squadron insignia and various patches (no doubt awarded for spotter valour?), baseball caps with similar, and aviator sunglasses.
There was a Tornado waiting to take off, and the pilot waved to the crowd.
The wave was obviously meant just for the spotters, because they immediately straightened up, stuck their chins out, nodded and gave the pilot a thumbs-up sign that meant 'yes mate, we are in the same team, you and us, we know you don't care about the other spectators here, we know you recognize us.'
We still have a chuckle about it.
I was hoping you'd say that the pilot opened the taps and blew them all away !Up against the rope that kept spectators off the runway was a pair of 'spotters'. They had set up a square perimeter with windbreaks to separate themselves from the spectators. Like the VIP section of a nightclub. They had chairs, camping equipment and tons of photography stuff. They wore bomber jackets covered in squadron insignia and various patches (no doubt awarded for spotter valour?), baseball caps with similar, and aviator sunglasses.
There was a Tornado waiting to take off, and the pilot waved to the crowd.
The wave was obviously meant just for the spotters, because they immediately straightened up, stuck their chins out, nodded and gave the pilot a thumbs-up sign that meant 'yes mate, we are in the same team, you and us, we know you don't care about the other spectators here, we know you recognize us.'
We still have a chuckle about it.
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