707 Crash in Iran
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Sad for all concerned.
By chance I spent quite a long time on YouTube last night watching films about the 707's being used in Iran.
I think from memory there still 16 or so flying around the world (possibly 15 now
) and what a great aircraft it is and a testament to the design they are still flying today.
I remember leaving Iran January 1978 as a youngster after the Shah was deposed on a BA 707 and having to divert to Kuwait because the aircraft went tech as we were on the take off roll. A massive bang, the aircraft shook violently but we were on our way. Many hours later as we left Kuwait to finish our journey home the Captain apologised for the delay simply saying (and I can remember him saying this to this day) "the aircraft wasn't airworthy when we left Mehrabad Airport but we had no option to continue on our way".............I'm hoping he was just referring to a burst tyre or similar!
By chance I spent quite a long time on YouTube last night watching films about the 707's being used in Iran.
I think from memory there still 16 or so flying around the world (possibly 15 now
) and what a great aircraft it is and a testament to the design they are still flying today.I remember leaving Iran January 1978 as a youngster after the Shah was deposed on a BA 707 and having to divert to Kuwait because the aircraft went tech as we were on the take off roll. A massive bang, the aircraft shook violently but we were on our way. Many hours later as we left Kuwait to finish our journey home the Captain apologised for the delay simply saying (and I can remember him saying this to this day) "the aircraft wasn't airworthy when we left Mehrabad Airport but we had no option to continue on our way".............I'm hoping he was just referring to a burst tyre or similar!
V41LEY said:
Being reported. 707 ? Really !
Still in service. Israel still has 9 as aerial refuelling tankers. Same with DC-8's and the old de Haviland Comet (as the Hawker Siddeley Nimrod) a few still in service.The 707 and DC-8 were produced up until 1972, its not surprising that some of the airframes are still in service, especially somewhere like Iran where they cant easily get new Boeing or Airbus aircraft.
I remember seeing a 707 crash (or the aftermath ) at Heathrow in the 1980's!
linky added
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-Air/Boeing-70...
linky added
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-Air/Boeing-70...
I think this is down to the Embargo which prevents them buying new planes.
Norwegian have a plan stuck there after they shut down an engine due to low oil pressure and took the land at nearest suitable airport very literally and spiraled down, rather than going just a few miles further. They are now tied up in red tape as they try to get an exemption to fly an engine in, so that they can retrieve their fairly new Boeing 737 Max...
Norwegian have a plan stuck there after they shut down an engine due to low oil pressure and took the land at nearest suitable airport very literally and spiraled down, rather than going just a few miles further. They are now tied up in red tape as they try to get an exemption to fly an engine in, so that they can retrieve their fairly new Boeing 737 Max...
surveyor said:
Norwegian have a plan stuck there after they shut down an engine due to low oil pressure and took the land at nearest suitable airport very literally and spiraled down, rather than going just a few miles further. They are now tied up in red tape as they try to get an exemption to fly an engine in, so that they can retrieve their fairly new Boeing 737 Max...
Could they strip the seats out to reduce the weight and fly it out on a single engine?If you include the Boeing E3 family of aircraft, there are quite a few 707s still flying. The E-3 is essentially a Boeing 707 fitted out with surveillance equipment. If you spread the definition of "707" a bit wider and include the C-135 variants, you actually have a few hundred airframes still in active use.
The C-135 differs in many ways from the true 707 design so it is more of a cousin rather than an actual 707 version.
The C-135 differs in many ways from the true 707 design so it is more of a cousin rather than an actual 707 version.
Krikkit said:
Could they strip the seats out to reduce the weight and fly it out on a single engine?
From my limited knowledge... The rudder does not become effective until airspeed has built-up. If the pilots goose the throttle to build up the airspeed, the plane gets muddy. If the pilots feed in power gently to build up airspeed it runs out of runway... That's assuming they can find a pilot to try it anyway...As a rule no twin engines will take off on a single engine. Some four engine aircraft (747 for one) can be ferried on 3 engines though...
Ok aero fact lovers, answer me this:
What is the oldest airframe still flying in regular service anywhere in the world??
(regular service should be timetabled, normal service, in any country?)
My bets are on some old single prop driven high wing crate chugging round Alaska or somewhere equally remote??
What is the oldest airframe still flying in regular service anywhere in the world??
(regular service should be timetabled, normal service, in any country?)
My bets are on some old single prop driven high wing crate chugging round Alaska or somewhere equally remote??
Max_Torque said:
Ok aero fact lovers, answer me this:
What is the oldest airframe still flying in regular service anywhere in the world??
(regular service should be timetabled, normal service, in any country?)
My bets are on some old single prop driven high wing crate chugging round Alaska or somewhere equally remote??
BA’s 747’s should qualify....What is the oldest airframe still flying in regular service anywhere in the world??
(regular service should be timetabled, normal service, in any country?)
My bets are on some old single prop driven high wing crate chugging round Alaska or somewhere equally remote??
Max_Torque said:
Ok aero fact lovers, answer me this:
What is the oldest airframe still flying in regular service anywhere in the world??
(regular service should be timetabled, normal service, in any country?)
My bets are on some old single prop driven high wing crate chugging round Alaska or somewhere equally remote??
Probably one of Buffalo Airway's DC-3s. What is the oldest airframe still flying in regular service anywhere in the world??
(regular service should be timetabled, normal service, in any country?)
My bets are on some old single prop driven high wing crate chugging round Alaska or somewhere equally remote??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Airways
nikaiyo2 said:
Is N707JT still flying?
Nope- 1
John Travolta has decided to donate his 707-138B (N707JT) to HARS, located near Sydney in Australia.
"It gives me great pleasure to make this exciting historical announcement that my beloved Boeing 707 aircraft has been donated to the Historical Aircraft Restoration society (HARS) based in the town of Albion Park, approximately 90 miles (140 km) south of the city of Sydney in Australia."
We still fly them too (another variant) - https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/airseeker-rc-135w-...
Superleg48 said:
captain_cynic said:
Still in service. Israel still has 9 as aerial refuelling tankers. Same with DC-8's and the old de Haviland Comet (as the Hawker Siddeley Nimrod) a few still in service.
The 707 refuelling tankers are actually designated as KC-135s, but are indeed based on 707. .If you want a technical history of the fairly varying family tree of the 707 and its ancestors and relatives, I'd recommend this -
And I've not even mentioned the Boeing 720 yet.
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