How not to use a narrowboat

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Simpo Two

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Monday 14th October 2019
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CanAm

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271 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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The camera boat appears to be facing downstream; he should be facing upstream when mooring!! (Hard to tell on my small phone screen, but the cruiser already moored is facing the opposite way)

PugwasHDJ80

7,522 posts

220 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Wow boat rage at its best.....

can't beleive he thought ramming another boat was ever OK in any circumstance.

Simpo Two

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Monday 14th October 2019
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CanAm said:
The camera boat appears to be facing downstream; he should be facing upstream when mooring!! (Hard to tell on my small phone screen, but the cruiser already moored is facing the opposite way)
In my experience boaters come in either way - if anything decides it for me, it's wind not current as landing with a tailwind is harder.

eldar

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195 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Simpo Two said:
In my experience boaters come in either way - if anything decides it for me, it's wind not current as landing with a tailwind is harder.
And add the current on the Thames just for a bit of complications. Narrow boats aren’t exactly responsive, compared to fibre glass cruisers.

All good fun...

Simpo Two

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eldar said:
And add the current on the Thames just for a bit of complications. Narrow boats aren’t exactly responsive, compared to fibre glass cruisers.
Very true (having wrestled a 70-footer through Braunston etc), but the goon had plenty of time to see the cruiser had got the space, and turn away. It's clear to me he rammed the cruiser in a fit of pique, knowing that his boat wouldn't be damaged. Worse, he then lied that it was an accident and he couldn't help it.

Apparently he has a column in some boating magazine, maybe that gives him special rights.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

246 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Obviously not adjusted to the age of the dash cam!

Hopefully he will now realise he can’t pull tricks like that and get away with it!

Nasty piece of work ..

eldar

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Monday 14th October 2019
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Simpo Two said:
Very true (having wrestled a 70-footer through Braunston etc), but the goon had plenty of time to see the cruiser had got the space, and turn away. It's clear to me he rammed the cruiser in a fit of pique, knowing that his boat wouldn't be damaged. Worse, he then lied that it was an accident and he couldn't help it.

Apparently he has a column in some boating magazine, maybe that gives him special rights.
Certainly looks that way. Parking space rage caught on dash cam.

Simpo Two

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I had a wonderful 'Yes there is a god!' moment a few years ago.. I'd planned to moor in my favourite spot for lunch, but there were a couple of other boats there which meant I had to stop closer to a corner than I'd normally have done. Anyway, this pocket Admiral comes along in a 70' narrowboat (on a narrow river with lots of bends in it) and shouts across the water at me for mooring in the wrong place. His wife looks embarrassed.

Anyway, he goes past in a huff and we settle down for lunch. An hour later we're done and set off. After 10 minutes a familiar-looking narrowboat hoves into view - except it's stopped 1/3 of the way across the river. The pompous git has cut the corner and run aground biggrin I have some time to choose the words as the range closes. He's on the stern; he sees me and hides inside. 'I say' says me, 'that's not a very good place to moor is it!'

Had he not been an asshole I'd have offered him a tow. So I left him there.

It gets better. An hour later we're moored in the middle of a line of boats at an official mooring. We're standing on the bank admiring the view when Admiral Cock comes chugging round the corner having finally got himself off the mud. As he passes my boat, just for those few yards, he revs his engine up...

037

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146 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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From my limited experience narrowboaters consider themselves a notch above any fibreglass cruisers. I’d have made it my mission to find that miserable idiot later on and ruin his evening

Gargamel

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260 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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CanAm said:
The camera boat appears to be facing downstream; he should be facing upstream when mooring!! (Hard to tell on my small phone screen, but the cruiser already moored is facing the opposite way)
The camera boat is correctly heading upstream into the mooring.

You can see the water running into the weir posts further up the river.


It’s a terribly British exchange of views.

“Your husband, madam, has got issues.“.

Whoa steady on there.

SimonTheSailor

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227 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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The guy (a well known narrow boat columnmist ) could have turned to starboard too but forgot wink )

All discussed here -

https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic...

Not a lot of people think much of him after this (apparently he was a self righteous p*ick before anyway !)

Edited by SimonTheSailor on Monday 14th October 23:45

untakenname

4,953 posts

191 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Knowing nothing about boats it looks like the rammer was already aiming for the mooring spot albeit slowly and the camera boat speeds up to nip in first, the boat equivalent of a DCW.

SimonTheSailor

12,543 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Gargamel said:
t’s a terribly British exchange of views.
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“You went for me then you sh*t bag"

Priceless !!

  • If you look at his tiller he is still aiming it towards the riverside, never tried to straighten it up until it was far too late*

SimonTheSailor

12,543 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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untakenname said:
Knowing nothing about boats it looks like the rammer was already aiming for the mooring spot albeit slowly and the camera boat speeds up to nip in first, the boat equivalent of a DCW.
But as he is such an expert on the waterways, he should also know not to cross another ships bow, but wait and pass the ships stern. Far less confusing, you can see the first fibreglass boat turning to port quite radically to avoid him.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Gargamel said:
It’s a terribly British exchange of views.

“Your husband, madam, has got issues.“.

Whoa steady on there.
laugh
Bettered only by adding “Perhaps a nice cup of tea is in order?”

mikeiow

5,287 posts

129 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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No real words to say what a self-righteous little pr!ck he clearly shows himself to be.
@Cutdreamer on twitter....
The irony of his article, https://www.canalboat.co.uk/canal-boats/steve-hayw... is just breathtaking!

Simpo Two

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Tuesday 15th October 2019
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mikeiow said:
No real words to say what a self-righteous little pr!ck he clearly shows himself to be.
@Cutdreamer on twitter....
The irony of his article, https://www.canalboat.co.uk/canal-boats/steve-hayw... is just breathtaking!
The comments underneath cut him to pieces biggrin

Edited by Simpo Two on Tuesday 15th October 11:12

dhutch

14,198 posts

196 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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SimonTheSailor said:
All discussed here -

https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic...

Not a lot of people think much of him after this (apparently he was a self righteous p*ick before anyway !)
Don't know the guy from his articles, but as said, clearly an avoidable collision passed off as otherwise, which makes him a grade a tosser in my book regardless of anything else. No need at all.

As someone who had a 20ton narrowboat, and has boated on a wide range of narrowboats, historics, vintage eng new builds, hireboats, there is no need at all to get into that situation and it appears deliberate to me which just gives narrowboats a mad name for no reason.

Hopefully only limited damage to your boat?

Daniel

SimonTheSailor

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Tuesday 15th October 2019
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This is what he says in one of his articles -

"Now let me spell this out for fear there should be any ambiguity. There is NO place for rudeness on the canal, there is NO place for canal rage, NO place for bad language. All this we would agree on. But there should be NO place for entitlement either. It doesn't matter how big your boat is, how much it cost you, how many decades you've been on the cut and how much more you know about canals than anyone else. Once you are afloat you are part of an egalitarian community in which, whoever you are, you have a right to the same treatment and respect as anyone else. And this means you have the responsibility to treat them as you'd wish to be treated."

You really couldn't make it up !!