Which boat for next summer?
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Louis Balfour said:
On which subject, as I reclined on my afterdeck with a beer last night, I pondered that it was much like having a beer in the bath, but without the taps. It was absolutely the right boat to buy and I anticipate that we will own it for years, But I can well imagine buying something better appointed in the future and the current one becoming a runabout.
I came very close to buying a new MF 695 a few years ago to the point of having a test sail and costing up my spec. In the end I bought a 5 year old MF 805 instead. But they are both very good boats. Not luxurious and obviously built to a cost - but in a way that takes into account that Jeanneau have built tens of thousands of boats and have learnt what works and what people actually appreciate in a boat.
Glad you're having fun.
Seight_Returns said:
Louis Balfour said:
On which subject, as I reclined on my afterdeck with a beer last night, I pondered that it was much like having a beer in the bath, but without the taps. It was absolutely the right boat to buy and I anticipate that we will own it for years, But I can well imagine buying something better appointed in the future and the current one becoming a runabout.
I came very close to buying a new MF 695 a few years ago to the point of having a test sail and costing up my spec. In the end I bought a 5 year old MF 805 instead. But they are both very good boats. Not luxurious and obviously built to a cost - but in a way that takes into account that Jeanneau have built tens of thousands of boats and have learnt what works and what people actually appreciate in a boat.
Glad you're having fun.
cashmax said:
I sold my 805 a couple of years ago. Wish I hadn't on reflection, they are great boats, a real 4x4 of the sea.
They’re an excellent all rounder with good balance of running costs. I don’t know why more (any other ?) boats don’t have the useable roof area. We’ve got the sun pads on ours and it really gives you a whole extra useable area - a really clever idea that’s under-utilised. Badda said:
They’re an excellent all rounder with good balance of running costs. I don’t know why more (any other ?) boats don’t have the useable roof area. We’ve got the sun pads on ours and it really gives you a whole extra useable area - a really clever idea that’s under-utilised.
Agree.Only thing about my 805 I disliked was that the first thing that would touch the bottom if you ran aground was the prop. Never happened but meant I was constantly anxious in shallow water and overly conservative with my nav. There was a skeg option to allow them to take the ground without damage which apparently was retrofittable, but I couldn't get any of the Jeanneau dealers interested in sourcing one.
Most seem to have them now, from what I’ve seen.
Mine came it with:
Downside is weight/drag. Difficult to judge scale on a photo but I'd be surprised if the skeg was less than 100kg plus anodes to change each year. Reassuring though, as you say.
Mine came it with:
Downside is weight/drag. Difficult to judge scale on a photo but I'd be surprised if the skeg was less than 100kg plus anodes to change each year. Reassuring though, as you say.
Edited by Badda on Saturday 3rd April 10:58
Louis Balfour said:
The Captain Tolleys arrived today and I had great hopes of a fix by tonight. But it is like trying to seal a shower tray with milk. I think the cracks are too large and I am just filling my boat up with thin, white liquid.
I shall return tomorrow with some bathroom silicone.
It will be filling up from the bottom of the cracks where they're smallest. But yes it can't fill anything over a certain size - it's a sealer not a filler - so silicone on the top could be a plan.I shall return tomorrow with some bathroom silicone.
Simpo Two said:
It will be filling up from the bottom of the cracks where they're smallest. But yes it can't fill anything over a certain size - it's a sealer not a filler - so silicone on the top could be a plan.
Sikaflex might do the trick. Could then be cut out for a proper repair later.vulture_venturer said:
Simpo Two said:
It will be filling up from the bottom of the cracks where they're smallest. But yes it can't fill anything over a certain size - it's a sealer not a filler - so silicone on the top could be a plan.
Sikaflex might do the trick. Could then be cut out for a proper repair later.Simpo Two said:
It will be filling up from the bottom of the cracks where they're smallest. But yes it can't fill anything over a certain size - it's a sealer not a filler - so silicone on the top could be a plan.
I suspect that the cracks go right through and I would have to fill the hull up before the cracks would hold liquid.It's unlikely those cracks go much if any deeper than the gel coat which is only a 1mm or 2 thick. It is possible there's an air bubble under there, imagine it like a smarty without the chocolate, but there'll be the best part of 1/4 fibreglass in that area, plus the embedded aluminium, plus with it being in a corner there will be an added build up of resin. it might be worth another try with the crack cure over a few days, letting in cure between applications. Those cracks look too small to get any Sikaflex or silicone in to. So either persevere with the crack cure/super glue, or wait and get it repaired properly. There won't be any water ingress through to the interior gel coat cracks.
gazzarose said:
It's unlikely those cracks go much if any deeper than the gel coat which is only a 1mm or 2 thick. It is possible there's an air bubble under there, imagine it like a smarty without the chocolate, but there'll be the best part of 1/4 fibreglass in that area, plus the embedded aluminium, plus with it being in a corner there will be an added build up of resin. it might be worth another try with the crack cure over a few days, letting in cure between applications. Those cracks look too small to get any Sikaflex or silicone in to. So either persevere with the crack cure/super glue, or wait and get it repaired properly. There won't be any water ingress through to the interior gel coat cracks.
There were some chips missing and some chips loose in situ. Then some wider cracks. I am going to have to use silicone at some point. I will decide tomorrow whether I go straight in with the goo or try Captain Tolly's again.Okay, Captain Tolly kicked into touch. Tomorrow, silicone.
Looking around the boat, I am appalled at how "not new" it looks. Fender rubs, atomic bird poo stains, bathing ladder tarnished, scuff on bathing platform, cracked fender rail mount. If it were a car I would be mortified.
This one should last us until Christmas. By my calculation, we should require one new boat per annum.
Louis Balfour said:
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Looking around the boat, I am appalled at how "not new" it looks. Fender rubs, atomic bird poo stains, bathing ladder tarnished, scuff on bathing platform, cracked fender rail mount. If it were a car I would be mortified.
Welcome to Boatworld. And you have a just out the box brand new one... Looking around the boat, I am appalled at how "not new" it looks. Fender rubs, atomic bird poo stains, bathing ladder tarnished, scuff on bathing platform, cracked fender rail mount. If it were a car I would be mortified.
Louis Balfour said:
Looking around the boat, I am appalled at how "not new" it looks. Fender rubs, atomic bird poo stains, bathing ladder tarnished, scuff on bathing platform, cracked fender rail mount. If it were a car I would be mortified.
This one should last us until Christmas. By my calculation, we should require one new boat per annum.
Ignore the scuffs and enjoy the boat whilst it still floats. This one should last us until Christmas. By my calculation, we should require one new boat per annum.
Just think of it is as an exercise of merrily squandering the kids' inheritance....if you have too much left over you might even have to pay your future old folks home fees without social support. Keeps the fun factor up with that mindset.
Louis Balfour said:
Okay, Captain Tolly kicked into touch. Tomorrow, silicone.
Looking around the boat, I am appalled at how "not new" it looks. Fender rubs, atomic bird poo stains, bathing ladder tarnished, scuff on bathing platform, cracked fender rail mount. If it were a car I would be mortified.
This one should last us until Christmas. By my calculation, we should require one new boat per annum.
I shall join the crowd saying that you can't be too precious about a boat...Firstly, you aren't on it the whole time and, unlike a car, it moves around on a mooring. Other people are not always careful so end up rubbing or bashing either the hull or things on the boat.Looking around the boat, I am appalled at how "not new" it looks. Fender rubs, atomic bird poo stains, bathing ladder tarnished, scuff on bathing platform, cracked fender rail mount. If it were a car I would be mortified.
This one should last us until Christmas. By my calculation, we should require one new boat per annum.
Then you have the water element...At least you are on freshwater, but *any* water has a nastyhabit of getting in where it isn't wanted. That alone tends to make things break or look old prematurley!
Your boat is new, so shows any small mark as an immediate blot on the fresh canvas....
A year in and you will both worry less and notice less...as well, of course, as having developed techniques for minimizing or repairing any "issues".
My boat (bought almost a year ago) is a 1966 wooden hulled 23ft cruiser. This winter the list of jobs was bigger than either the budget for them or the time to carry them all out...polishing the few scuffs off the hull is way down the list!
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