Which boat for next summer?
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paintman said:
Depending how old your kids are you're likely to find the faster it goes the better - esp teenagers!
This might be worth a look as a very rough guide to the fuel consumption of various engines.
https://www.boat-fuel-economy.com/volvo-penta-4.3-...
Yes, yes but just imagine how sweet that V6 will sound at WOT!This might be worth a look as a very rough guide to the fuel consumption of various engines.
https://www.boat-fuel-economy.com/volvo-penta-4.3-...
Edited by paintman on Wednesday 21st October 16:16
Looking forward to seeing it blasting up and down the Fal next Summer and with a yellow hull, it won't be difficult to spot or identify the owner of the yellow peril who practised a few tight manoeuvres in harbour!
I'm in the same position as the OP. Realistically anything over 22ft becomes a paint to tow and launch. Yet realistically most stuff under 22ft is a Cuddy cabin with the most basic of features.
So any decision is a compromise. I've looked at everything from Fletcher 19gts's, Maxum SCR2400 to Sealine S28s but they all have their pros and cons.
The OPs requirements are trailerable and something to have some fun on for the day. There is the odd Fletcher 22GTS come up for sale which seems like a decent compromise, but they are rare.
Also to note since the current madness has started, prices have increased significantly. A Sealine S240 that was around £16k pre covid are climbing into the 20s. Most boats seem to be fetching significantly more. No surprise really when we are looking at another restricted summer for 2021
So any decision is a compromise. I've looked at everything from Fletcher 19gts's, Maxum SCR2400 to Sealine S28s but they all have their pros and cons.
The OPs requirements are trailerable and something to have some fun on for the day. There is the odd Fletcher 22GTS come up for sale which seems like a decent compromise, but they are rare.
Also to note since the current madness has started, prices have increased significantly. A Sealine S240 that was around £16k pre covid are climbing into the 20s. Most boats seem to be fetching significantly more. No surprise really when we are looking at another restricted summer for 2021
Given the requirements you've listed, I think that you'll always be in the compromise between towabilty and size of boat. I also think you might get tired of trailering and launching pretty quickly....
We've had a Scorpion rib for the past 16 years but considerations towards a boat with a cabin and heads, for the reasons you mention have been a consideration.
How about an Aquador 23 Walkaround or 25 Walkaround?
A 25 was up for sale in Bristol for £29k, not sure what she eventually sold for.
They're quite rare but they do come up for sale every so often.
If you can stretch the budget then maybe look at the Nimbus Novas - 22/25/26.
We've had a Scorpion rib for the past 16 years but considerations towards a boat with a cabin and heads, for the reasons you mention have been a consideration.
How about an Aquador 23 Walkaround or 25 Walkaround?
A 25 was up for sale in Bristol for £29k, not sure what she eventually sold for.
They're quite rare but they do come up for sale every so often.
If you can stretch the budget then maybe look at the Nimbus Novas - 22/25/26.
Uggers said:
I'm in the same position as the OP. Realistically anything over 22ft becomes a paint to tow and launch. Yet realistically most stuff under 22ft is a Cuddy cabin with the most basic of features.
So any decision is a compromise. I've looked at everything from Fletcher 19gts's, Maxum SCR2400 to Sealine S28s but they all have their pros and cons.
The OPs requirements are trailerable and something to have some fun on for the day. There is the odd Fletcher 22GTS come up for sale which seems like a decent compromise, but they are rare.
Also to note since the current madness has started, prices have increased significantly. A Sealine S240 that was around £16k pre covid are climbing into the 20s. Most boats seem to be fetching significantly more. No surprise really when we are looking at another restricted summer for 2021
As I have explained before on this subject, deciding on a 'perfect' boat for the many and varied required use, is almost impossible and one therefore needs to compromise. However, my golden rule when buying is 'who will buy this from me' when I'm thinking of selling?So any decision is a compromise. I've looked at everything from Fletcher 19gts's, Maxum SCR2400 to Sealine S28s but they all have their pros and cons.
The OPs requirements are trailerable and something to have some fun on for the day. There is the odd Fletcher 22GTS come up for sale which seems like a decent compromise, but they are rare.
Also to note since the current madness has started, prices have increased significantly. A Sealine S240 that was around £16k pre covid are climbing into the 20s. Most boats seem to be fetching significantly more. No surprise really when we are looking at another restricted summer for 2021
If you are serious about getting a boat for next years' holidays you must be prepared to be flexible and that Jan 595 looks to be a good bet to me and will still be marketable after you've had a summer of fun with it, as it's a well known brand and model and is still popular for the rod fishing community.
pequod said:
As I have explained before on this subject, deciding on a 'perfect' boat for the many and varied required use, is almost impossible and one therefore needs to compromise. However, my golden rule when buying is 'who will buy this from me' when I'm thinking of selling?
If you are serious about getting a boat for next years' holidays you must be prepared to be flexible and that Jan 595 looks to be a good bet to me and will still be marketable after you've had a summer of fun with it, as it's a well known brand and model and is still popular for the rod fishing community.
Yes I can tell it would be popular with the fishing community. Rod or net!If you are serious about getting a boat for next years' holidays you must be prepared to be flexible and that Jan 595 looks to be a good bet to me and will still be marketable after you've had a summer of fun with it, as it's a well known brand and model and is still popular for the rod fishing community.
But what about the Binliner I posted above? Are they not popular?
Louis Balfour said:
Yes I can tell it would be popular with the fishing community. Rod or net!
But what about the Binliner I posted above? Are they not popular?
Perfect for your needs next Summer as it will give you some experience of boat handling and ownership of such craft.But what about the Binliner I posted above? Are they not popular?
Go for it.
Louis Balfour said:
pequod said:
As I have explained before on this subject, deciding on a 'perfect' boat for the many and varied required use, is almost impossible and one therefore needs to compromise. However, my golden rule when buying is 'who will buy this from me' when I'm thinking of selling?
If you are serious about getting a boat for next years' holidays you must be prepared to be flexible and that Jan 595 looks to be a good bet to me and will still be marketable after you've had a summer of fun with it, as it's a well known brand and model and is still popular for the rod fishing community.
Yes I can tell it would be popular with the fishing community. Rod or net!If you are serious about getting a boat for next years' holidays you must be prepared to be flexible and that Jan 595 looks to be a good bet to me and will still be marketable after you've had a summer of fun with it, as it's a well known brand and model and is still popular for the rod fishing community.
But what about the Binliner I posted above? Are they not popular?
We did the same thing this year. We bought a Jeanneau Leader 705 which has been a fantastic boat. Does 38 knots and has a small cabin with toilet and small kitchen area. It’s also got a category b hull so could cross the channel if you wanted.
These two below are not pics of my actual boat but give you a better idea of what they look like as I don’t have any of mine on the water as I’m always in it.
At 7.1m it’s small enough to tow with a decent car and plenty of room for the family.
Edited to add another pic which giver a better idea of size
These two below are not pics of my actual boat but give you a better idea of what they look like as I don’t have any of mine on the water as I’m always in it.
At 7.1m it’s small enough to tow with a decent car and plenty of room for the family.
Edited to add another pic which giver a better idea of size
Edited by 4Q on Wednesday 21st October 18:53
paintman said:
Depending how old your kids are you're likely to find the faster it goes the better - esp teenagers!
This might be worth a look as a very rough guide to the fuel consumption of various engines.
https://www.boat-fuel-economy.com/volvo-penta-4.3-...
I have that exact engine in mine and it burns 17litre per hour at full chat but nothing like that most of the time. A day bombing about in the sea uses £30-60 per day but cruising around the coast probably costs £20-30 per day This might be worth a look as a very rough guide to the fuel consumption of various engines.
https://www.boat-fuel-economy.com/volvo-penta-4.3-...
Edited by paintman on Wednesday 21st October 16:16
4Q said:
We did the same thing this year. We bought a Jeanneau Leader 705 which has been a fantastic boat. Does 38 knots and has a small cabin with toilet and small kitchen area. It’s also got a category b hull so could cross the channel if you wanted.
These two below are not pics of my actual boat but give you a better idea of what they look like as I don’t have any of mine on the water as I’m always in it.
At 7.1m it’s small enough to tow with a decent car and plenty of room for the family.
Edited to add another pic which giver a better idea of size
Yes I like that and so would my children. It looks sporty and not as though we are trawling for cod. A cursory Google suggests that they are mostly available abroad, though.These two below are not pics of my actual boat but give you a better idea of what they look like as I don’t have any of mine on the water as I’m always in it.
At 7.1m it’s small enough to tow with a decent car and plenty of room for the family.
Edited to add another pic which giver a better idea of size
Edited by 4Q on Wednesday 21st October 18:53
Louis Balfour said:
Yes I like that and so would my children. It looks sporty and not as though we are trawling for cod. A cursory Google suggests that they are mostly available abroad, though.
I bought mine in Plymouth and they do often come up for sale in the UK, there are usually more for sale in France and generally cheaper than here though. Having bought and sold a Jeanneau 705 this summer I can recommend them if you want an inboard. They are underpowered with the diesel KAD32 (rare), but are comfortable for 4 adults. Great to have a toilet down below, and when made up the bed is huge.
Make sure you get one with the big bathing platform and a good service history. Most of them will be almost 20 years old now so will need some money spending on them. I would chose a diesel KAD32 again over petrol versions as it sipped fuel and still hit 32 knots, it just lost performance quickly when we have 6 adults onboard.
We're now looking for a 805 or an outboard Jeanneau Cap Camarat 725 or 7.5 or 755 or similar... which can accommodate more people for day trips while still having a toilet and small cabin if the weather turns.
Make sure you get one with the big bathing platform and a good service history. Most of them will be almost 20 years old now so will need some money spending on them. I would chose a diesel KAD32 again over petrol versions as it sipped fuel and still hit 32 knots, it just lost performance quickly when we have 6 adults onboard.
We're now looking for a 805 or an outboard Jeanneau Cap Camarat 725 or 7.5 or 755 or similar... which can accommodate more people for day trips while still having a toilet and small cabin if the weather turns.
Edited by Audis5b9 on Wednesday 21st October 20:22
Audis5b9 said:
Having bought and sold a Jeanneau 705 this summer I can recommend them if you want an inboard. They are underpowered, but are comfortable for 4 adults. Great to have a toilet down below, and when made up the bed is huge.
Make sure you get one with the big bathing platform and a good service history. Most of them will be almost 20 years old now so will need some money spending on them.
We're now looking for a 805 or an outboard Jeanneau Cap Camarat 725 or 7.5 or 755 or similar... which can accommodate more people for day trips while still having a toilet and small cabin if the weather turns.
Yes, the age concerns me. I don't get off on DIY.Make sure you get one with the big bathing platform and a good service history. Most of them will be almost 20 years old now so will need some money spending on them.
We're now looking for a 805 or an outboard Jeanneau Cap Camarat 725 or 7.5 or 755 or similar... which can accommodate more people for day trips while still having a toilet and small cabin if the weather turns.
Also thinking about it, the 705 is too wide to legally tow (although only by 5cm I think).
Take a look at the Cap Camarat range, good day boats with loads of seating, simple outboard to look after...
Bear in mind the market has been crazy this summer for this type of boat (I'm a yacht broker) so they are few are far between, although I am hoping they will flood onto the market when people realise boats cost money to look after all winter when you don't want to use them too.
Take a look at the Cap Camarat range, good day boats with loads of seating, simple outboard to look after...
Bear in mind the market has been crazy this summer for this type of boat (I'm a yacht broker) so they are few are far between, although I am hoping they will flood onto the market when people realise boats cost money to look after all winter when you don't want to use them too.
Louis Balfour said:
Yes, the age concerns me. I don't get off on DIY.
Me neither, my boat is a 2002 but is mint with fsh and was serviced immediately before buying. I paid £17k for reference.Audis5b9 said:
Also thinking about it, the 705 is too wide to legally tow (although only by 5cm I think).
Take a look at the Cap Camarat range, good day boats with loads of seating, simple outboard to look after...
The boat is 2.59m wide and you can tow a boat up to 2.9m on a trailer providing the trailer is no more than 2.55m Take a look at the Cap Camarat range, good day boats with loads of seating, simple outboard to look after...
The Cap Camarat range of boats are lovely too but the OP would struggle to get in one for his £25k budget.
4Q said:
Louis Balfour said:
Yes, the age concerns me. I don't get off on DIY.
Me neither, my boat is a 2002 but is mint with fsh and was serviced immediately before buying. I paid £17k for reference.Audis5b9 said:
Also thinking about it, the 705 is too wide to legally tow (although only by 5cm I think).
Take a look at the Cap Camarat range, good day boats with loads of seating, simple outboard to look after...
The boat is 2.59m wide and you can tow a boat up to 2.9m on a trailer providing the trailer is no more than 2.55m Take a look at the Cap Camarat range, good day boats with loads of seating, simple outboard to look after...
The Cap Camarat range of boats are lovely too but the OP would struggle to get in one for his £25k budget.
CC 755 for £25,500 - https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Centre-Console...
Audis5b9 said:
CC 755 for £25,500 - https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Centre-Console...
No interior photos. Does it really have 'Two berths within the cabin, Heads compartment with sea toilet, Single burner, Sink and Fridge'?Simpo Two said:
Audis5b9 said:
CC 755 for £25,500 - https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Centre-Console...
No interior photos. Does it really have 'Two berths within the cabin, Heads compartment with sea toilet, Single burner, Sink and Fridge'?Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff