Which boat for next summer?

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4Q

3,360 posts

144 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Audis5b9 said:
Did you get a petrol or diesel 705?

CC 755 for £25,500 - https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Centre-Console...
4.3 Petrol. That CC755 looks good value although you’d need to add £4-5k for a trailer.

Btw I’m not trying to talk the OP into any particular boat, just offering a suggestion outside of the usual Bayliner, Maxum, et al you usually see in this part of the market, not that there’s anything wrong with those boats either.

Audis5b9

937 posts

72 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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4Q said:
Audis5b9 said:
Did you get a petrol or diesel 705?

CC 755 for £25,500 - https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Centre-Console...
4.3 Petrol. That CC755 looks good value although you’d need to add £4-5k for a trailer.

Btw I’m not trying to talk the OP into any particular boat, just offering a suggestion outside of the usual Bayliner, Maxum, et al you usually see in this part of the market, not that there’s anything wrong with those boats either.
It sounds like you got a good buy at £17k as it was mint. We really loved our 705 but we wanted to take more friends out so needed something different.

You can get a trailer for that boat for 2-3,000 quite easily.

If the OP is actually interested in that boat, please PM me as I can help with that.

4Q

3,360 posts

144 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Audis5b9 said:
It sounds like you got a good buy at £17k as it was mint. We really loved our 705 but we wanted to take more friends out...
We generally take the same two passengers on ours


Audis5b9

937 posts

72 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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4Q said:
We generally take the same two passengers on ours

Two happy doggo's

The stripped back woodwork looks great, was on my jobs list for winter as our had the original (2 pack?) finish falling off.

Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Audis5b9 said:
If the OP is actually interested in that boat, please PM me as I can help with that.
If I am being absolutely honest, it doesn't inspire me. It also seems like quite an old boat for the money. Though I have not researched prices obv.

Badda

2,668 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
pequod said:
As I have explained before on this subject, deciding on a 'perfect' boat for the many and varied required use, is almost impossible and one therefore needs to compromise. However, my golden rule when buying is 'who will buy this from me' when I'm thinking of selling?

If you are serious about getting a boat for next years' holidays you must be prepared to be flexible and that Jan 595 looks to be a good bet to me and will still be marketable after you've had a summer of fun with it, as it's a well known brand and model and is still popular for the rod fishing community.
Yes I can tell it would be popular with the fishing community. Rod or net!

But what about the Binliner I posted above? Are they not popular?
If you’re worried about image, most people will sneer at you in a Bayliner.
Have a look at Searay, Maxum, Regal etc instead. Better quality.

Audis5b9

937 posts

72 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
Audis5b9 said:
If the OP is actually interested in that boat, please PM me as I can help with that.
If I am being absolutely honest, it doesn't inspire me. It also seems like quite an old boat for the money. Though I have not researched prices obv.
Its is exactly what you say (it is also an ex commercial boat too), but that is the current market.

Pre-covid that would have been £5-8,000 cheaper. The demand for boats in the UK has gone crazy since lockdown was lifted, especially in the cheaper end of the market.

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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I'm selling mine after 5 years of fun ownership... its a great boat, very quick (70 knots on flat water) and you can take up watersliing/ wakeboarding!!







I can recommend dry stacking instead of the hassle of towing. Obviously depends where you live near.



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Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Badda said:
If you’re worried about image, most people will sneer at you in a Bayliner.
Have a look at Searay, Maxum, Regal etc instead. Better quality.
Something like this, then.

https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Bowriders-for-...

4Q

3,360 posts

144 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Badda said:
If you’re worried about image, most people will sneer at you in a Bayliner.
I disagree completely, boaters tend to be a friendly bunch and whether you’re in a £500k cruiser or a plywood skiff most people don’t care.

Whatever boat you buy as your first, you’ll end up looking at faster/bigger/more expensive boats almost as soon as you start getting out on the water.

My advice would be to get something that works for what think you want now as once you start using you realise that you wish you had specced something different. You are going bang your new boat about quite a bit as you get used to berthing or loading on to the trailer if you’re new to boat handling so I wouldn’t get something too smart first off.

The Aquaholics YouTube channel has some great vids for boating newbies (as well as wallet threatening yacht tours) https://youtu.be/Q9tUaVJ4PCs

Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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4Q said:
You are going bang your new boat about quite a bit as you get used to berthing or loading on to the trailer if you’re new to boat handling so I wouldn’t get something too smart first off.
This is my thinking. I cannot think of any new sport that I have taken up where my early days were not hard on my kit. Be that mountain biking, windsurfing, driving etc.

Simpo Two

85,404 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
4Q said:
You are going bang your new boat about quite a bit as you get used to berthing or loading on to the trailer if you’re new to boat handling so I wouldn’t get something too smart first off.
This is my thinking. I cannot think of any new sport that I have taken up where my early days were not hard on my kit. Be that mountain biking, windsurfing, driving etc.
It's a good point. There's a lot to learn if you're going to be a boat owner for the first time. It's very different from just driving somebody else's, or a hire boat. A lot more to know. So maybe a more modest, affordable start, run it for a year or two to get your hours up and make your mistakes, then upgrade if you want and then you might feel happy to invest £30K+.

My first boat was about £8K. My second boat was about £50K. Sadly I didn't keep that rate of growth up!

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
19ft is a bit small but Regal is a good brand. Mine is a Regal 2200 (22ft).

Important to get the right engine/ prop set up too. Ours is a Mercruiser 5L V8 with a bravo 3 sterndrive.

4Q

3,360 posts

144 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Jonny TVR said:
I'm selling mine after 5 years of fun ownership... its a great boat, very quick (70 knots on flat water) and you can take up watersliing/ wakeboarding!!

Is that Cawsand?

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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4Q said:
Is that Cawsand?
It is .. we keep the boat at the dry stack in Plymouth so just a 10 minute blast over to Cawsands to anchor off and have a bite to eat in the sun.

4Q

3,360 posts

144 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Jonny TVR said:
It is .. we keep the boat at the dry stack in Plymouth so just a 10 minute blast over to Cawsands to anchor off and have a bite to eat in the sun.
We’re in Queen Anne’s Battery and regularly do the same, particularly if the sea’s choppy out beyond the breakwater.

Ian-27xza

217 posts

93 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Given all considerations, the Leader 705 looks like a pretty good boat all round.

Good value
Manageable size (on and off the water)
Volvo KAD32s - very reliable, efficient, just about punchy enough, can buy diesel everywhere
Volvo V6/225 - V8270 - super smooth, juicy at speed (not relevant inland), petrol availability can be an issue
Reputable brand - commodity resale (easy)
A lot of boat in a small package
No separate heads - might be an issue (?)

This is the link to the Aquador 25 WA I referred to in an earlier post - https://bristol.boatshed.com/aquador_25_wa-boat-15...

HocusPocus

884 posts

101 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Think practical usage. I have a Robalo 180 with 150hp outboard for trailering to visit places. It is unashamedly an open day boat, but with toilet cubby, seating space, and 42kt pace. It is for fun, so we won't go out coastal in force 5+, ie lumpy cold wet days. This hard boat has more internal space and higher freeboard than a rib for given length. If towing with 4x4 be aware of the beam being a limiting factor on country lanes like the steep hill approach to Mylor. The last mile to many marinas are tiny roads. Don't go so big that you shudder whenever a panel van comes the other way.

Decide whether you will use it only as a day boat or overnight/warm cabin comfort. Cuddies are the compromise option, but how often will you really be out all day (especially if you launch/recover 2 hours either side of high tide) and tie up to an overnight mooring bouy? Unless you plan to overnight or go out on lumpy days, I would not buy a cabin cruiser. If you plan to go boating from one location, a dry stack is an excellent secure storm-proof solution.

Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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HocusPocus said:
Think practical usage. I have a Robalo 180 with 150hp outboard for trailering to visit places. It is unashamedly an open day boat, but with toilet cubby, seating space, and 42kt pace. It is for fun, so we won't go out coastal in force 5+, ie lumpy cold wet days. This hard boat has more internal space and higher freeboard than a rib for given length. If towing with 4x4 be aware of the beam being a limiting factor on country lanes like the steep hill approach to Mylor. The last mile to many marinas are tiny roads. Don't go so big that you shudder whenever a panel van comes the other way.

Decide whether you will use it only as a day boat or overnight/warm cabin comfort. Cuddies are the compromise option, but how often will you really be out all day (especially if you launch/recover 2 hours either side of high tide) and tie up to an overnight mooring bouy? Unless you plan to overnight or go out on lumpy days, I would not buy a cabin cruiser. If you plan to go boating from one location, a dry stack is an excellent secure storm-proof solution.
I had to look up "dry stack" but thank you.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Badda said:
If you’re worried about image, most people will sneer at you in a Bayliner.
Have a look at Searay, Maxum, Regal etc instead. Better quality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences

they are all plastic dayboats