The Secret Horsepower Race - WW2 Aero Engines in detail

The Secret Horsepower Race - WW2 Aero Engines in detail

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Simpo Two

75,111 posts

230 months

Friday 26th February
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I think the author just turned up!

Eric Mc

115,081 posts

230 months

Friday 26th February
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Good stuff too.

dirky dirk

2,264 posts

135 months

Friday 26th February
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I read something interesting the other day

The luftwaffe was so short of jet fuel for the me262
They towed them to the end of the runway,
Via cow.

Max hastings lancaster

Penguinracer

1,060 posts

171 months

Saturday 27th February
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Am I alone in looking at a Sea Fury, Griffon Spit, Bear Cat or Mustang selling for the same as the latest hyper car and thinking - these aircraft though expensive - are insanely great value relative to these hyper cars?

I can see at least $US10m of engineering in these great piston fighters but I struggle to see the $US3 - 5m in the cars.

Calum, I bought your book - loved it - just the ticket for everyone from private to professional pilots, aviation nerds, plane spotters and anyone else who appreciates the pinnacle of piston aerospace engineering.

Thank you for bringing your project to fruition.

Simpo Two

75,111 posts

230 months

Saturday 27th February
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Penguinracer said:
Am I alone in looking at a Sea Fury, Griffon Spit, Bear Cat or Mustang selling for the same as the latest hyper car and thinking - these aircraft though expensive - are insanely great value relative to these hyper cars?
Running costs, storage and upkeep somewhat more though. If you thought anything prefixed 'marine' was expensive, try 'warbird'!

outnumbered

2,975 posts

199 months

Saturday 27th February
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Snowygrouch said:
In the next printing I`ll maybe try to add a paragraph to clarify the above.
Thanks for the clarification here anyway.


NMNeil

1,751 posts

15 months

Saturday 27th February
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Some old archive videos of the Merlin being made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fo7SmNuUU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRVWyZf5MQk
BF109 Daimler Benz engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qr7coMtjh0
And the BF109 itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCY11-LeOJI
Not a piston engine but a fascinating video on how to assemble and launch the V1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EEZuXQyA-E



aeropilot

24,168 posts

192 months

Saturday 27th February
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Simpo Two said:
Penguinracer said:
Am I alone in looking at a Sea Fury, Griffon Spit, Bear Cat or Mustang selling for the same as the latest hyper car and thinking - these aircraft though expensive - are insanely great value relative to these hyper cars?
Running costs, storage and upkeep somewhat more though. If you thought anything prefixed 'marine' was expensive, try 'warbird'!
Yep.

There are rich boys toys, there are boats.............and then there's the warbird owner......and then there's the multiple warbird owner biggrin


emperorburger

800 posts

31 months

Saturday 27th February
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The secret behind German engine performance: GM-1 and MW-50

https://youtu.be/stL8eSyieSU

May be of interest to some.


Penguinracer

1,060 posts

171 months

Saturday 27th February
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Running costs - for sure - it was just the sheer quality & quantity of engineering you were buying compared to a hypercard which interested me.

In terms of fascinating engines I've always been intrigued by the P&W R-4360 & the Wright R-3350.

frisbee

3,425 posts

75 months

Sunday 28th February
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There's a good LJK Setright book about the development of aircraft piston engines from the very beginning, The Power to Fly: The Development of the Piston Engine in Aviation. Extremely readable and full of little stories.

It's been a while since I read it but from what I remember he had a soft spot for sleeve valves. Some of the ideas the early designers came up with to work around limitations of materials etc. are very interesting.

Piginapoke

1,893 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th February
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dirky dirk said:
I read something interesting the other day

The luftwaffe was so short of jet fuel for the me262
They towed them to the end of the runway,
Via cow.

Max hastings lancaster
Do you mean Hasting's Dambusters book?

CoupeKid

279 posts

30 months

Tuesday 2nd March
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frisbee said:
There's a good LJK Setright book about the development of aircraft piston engines from the very beginning, The Power to Fly: The Development of the Piston Engine in Aviation. Extremely readable and full of little stories.

It's been a while since I read it but from what I remember he had a soft spot for sleeve valves. Some of the ideas the early designers came up with to work around limitations of materials etc. are very interesting.
Currently about £300 on Amazon yikes

youngsod

243 posts

147 months

Monday 12th April
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frisbee said:
There's a good LJK Setright book about the development of aircraft piston engines from the very beginning, The Power to Fly: The Development of the Piston Engine in Aviation. Extremely readable and full of little stories.

It's been a while since I read it but from what I remember he had a soft spot for sleeve valves. Some of the ideas the early designers came up with to work around limitations of materials etc. are very interesting.
Frisbee, thank you so much for recommending this book. I have to admit, I'm not the greatest fan of Setright's writing in Car in the 80s and 90s, but this book it utterly marvellous, I just lost myself in it.

Penguinracer

1,060 posts

171 months

Wednesday 14th April
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LJKS was the the high priest of verbosity imho....multiple subordinate clauses added, layered & entangled until the principal clause was obscured in a sea of obfuscating verbiage...

Imagine Hemingway & LJK meeting in a bar...I'm sure Papa wouldn't have much time for Leonard's style.

jet_noise

4,510 posts

147 months

Wednesday 14th April
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Penguinracer said:
LJKS was the the high priest of verbosity imho....multiple subordinate clauses added, layered & entangled until the principal clause was obscured in a sea of obfuscating verbiage...

Imagine Hemingway & LJK meeting in a bar...I'm sure Papa wouldn't have much time for Leonard's style.
Obfuscating Verbiage was an Eno & Fripp collaboration from the late '70s.
Although my memory of the time is somewhat clouded wink

conkerman

2,346 posts

100 months

Thursday 15th April
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Oblique Strategies wasn't it?


jet_noise

4,510 posts

147 months

Thursday 15th April
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conkerman said:
Oblique Strategies wasn't it?
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