Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 3)

Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 3)

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CooperD

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176 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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I went to Duxford yesterday where they have an exhibition dedicated to the Hawker Hurricane. It runs until 19th February.

FourWheelDrift

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283 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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Lost ranger said:
Iran 1973 - https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/55314

"The sixth member of the crew was an Iranian aircrew having a jolly, apparently, he left the cockpit at a run through the gap where the canopy had been with his trousers full."

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Iran 1973 - https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/55314

"The sixth member of the crew was an Iranian aircrew having a jolly, apparently, he left the cockpit at a run through the gap where the canopy had been with his trousers full."
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.

Fastdruid

8,623 posts

151 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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Lost ranger said:
Stolen from FB

Crashed in Iran: Final flight of Vulcan XJ781
Avro Vulcan XJ781 Iran Shiraz crash
Flight Lieutenant John Derrick in front of the crashed XJ781 at Shiraz (Courtesy James Rich)
Posted by Tony Wilkins on April 21, 2017
In 1955, the UK entered in to an alliance that with the benefit of hindsight seemed doomed to failure. It was known under a few names, it initially being referred to as the Baghdad Pact or the Middle East Treaty Organisation (METO) but was most commonly referred to as the Central Treaty Organisation (CENTO). The origins of the alliance can be traced back to a year prior when Turkey and Pakistan signed a treaty of mutual cooperation on defence matters. Encouraged by the United States in 1955, a new agreement was penned that added Iraq, Iran and perhaps most significantly the United Kingdom however the US itself was held back from formal involvement until 1958.


In a nutshell, CENTO’s role was modelled along the lines of NATO in Western Europe with the goal being to establish a series of militarily powerful countries on the Soviet Union’s southern flank and to counter any communist revolutionary forces emerging in the Middle East. It was headquartered in Baghdad, Iraq until 1958 when Brigadier General Abd al-Karim Qasim of the Iraqi Army overthrew and killed the last King of Iraq, King Faisal II. Iraq then withdrew from CENTO and the headquarters was moved to Ankara in Turkey.

The 1960s were a tough time for the organisation. It’s existence was heavily criticised for its lack of action to help curb the first Indo-Pakistan War, the Six Day War, tensions between Turkey and Greece over Cyprus and it’s seeming lack of ability to prevent Communist revolutionary forces rising up across the Middle East. Even the UK and US, who should have been its biggest supporters, often bypassed it when dealing with specific issues and countries in the region. The US had to especially tread carefully when dealing with CENTO because of the strong pro-Israel lobby in Washington which viewed the alliance with suspicion.

For the UK, its military bases on Cyprus were of high importance for the alliance with the RAF’s Near East Air Force providing a nuclear strike capability with Avro Vulcan B.2s from early 1969. The aircraft were operated by Nos.9 and 35 Squadrons out of RAF Akrotiri which was by then the only RAF station left on the island after RAF Nicosia was forced to close in 1966 to become Cyprus International Airport.

One of the advantages of being a member of CENTO was that British military units could undertake deployments to member states which for RAF crews allowed them to gain invaluable experience operating over the Middle East. It was not uncommon for the long range Vulcans to fly to Iran or Turkey on goodwill flights or to train with their respective air forces and one place they would regularly visit was Shiraz Air Base in south-west Iran.

Avro Vulcan XJ781 B.2On May 23rd 1973, one such visitor to Shiraz was Avro Vulcan B.2 XJ781 operating with No.9 Squadron which, having completed a routine training mission turned towards the Iranian base for landing. In this instance, the usual crew of five were joined by a sixth man, an officer from the Imperial Iranian Air Force who was aboard acting as an observer. This was not uncommon but often proved problematic for the British crews as the observers almost never spoke any English leading to safety briefings being conducted with pointing at things hoping he understood. The observers also liked to smoke during the flight.

All had gone well until it came time to lower the undercarriage ready for landing. While the nose and starboard undercarriage legs lowered successfully, the port leg refused to budge despite the efforts of the crew. Low on fuel, the crew had no choice but to attempt an emergency landing at Shiraz. The ground personnel at Shiraz immediately went in to action and began spraying down foam across one of the two runways at the base in an attempt to cushion the port wing when it inevitably made contact with the ground and reduce the chance of fire. With the runway sufficiently doused down, the aircraft made its landing attempt.

The Vulcan touched down on its starboard undercarriage with pilot Flight Lieutenant John Derrick fighting to keep the wings level before the nosewheels made contact with the ground. The aircraft ran on just the starboard and nose wheels for a short while before the port wing was lowered as carefully as possible on to the ground. With the wing scraping along the foam-soaked runway it began pulling the aircraft to the left, sending it veering off the runway and across an adjacent gully that was not marked on any maps of the airfield. The nosewheel fell in to the gully and was sheered off followed quickly by the starboard undercarriage leaving the Vulcan to slam down on to its belly before finally sliding to a halt. As the aircraft slid across the ground, the bomb aimer’s window in the blister under the nose shattered sending clouds of dust in to the lower deck of the cockpit while the navigator’s table collapsed temporarily trapping the two navigator’s by their knees. Aside from the bruised knees, the five crew and the Iranian observer were all unhurt and with the crew hatch stuck against the ground they left the aircraft through the canopy which had been ejected after the undercarriage collapsed.

A maintenance team from Akrotiri was flown out aboard a Hercules cargo plane and immediately declared the crash as a Category 5(C) meaning it was beyond repair or salvage. The Iranians agreed to accept the airframe as scrap but insisted that British engineers familiar with the aircraft remove key military components. Thus, after twelve years of service XJ781 ended its days being broken up on a dusty Iranian airfield.

In many ways the crash of such a symbol of British military power as a V-Bomber symbolised the ailing position Britain found itself in when dealing with CENTO. A year after the crash, Turkey invaded Cyprus in defence of Turkish Cypriots following a military coup organised by the Greek Junta. This forced Britain to withdraw all military support for Turkey and consequently CENTO itself which from then on existed only on paper. In 1979, whatever remained of CENTO was dissolved in the wake of the Iranian Revolution.

MartG

20,622 posts

203 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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Upkeep


Speed 3

4,486 posts

118 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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MartG said:
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Always good to keep a barrel of Old Peculiar on board "just in case"

Voldemort

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277 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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MartG said:
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Tyre warmers?

tdm34

7,365 posts

209 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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MartG said:
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Guy Gibson's Aircraft.

MartG

20,622 posts

203 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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B-1B Arctic testing


mko9

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211 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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MartG said:
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Tumble composter?

xeny

4,270 posts

77 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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Voldemort said:
MartG said:
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Tyre warmers?
Maybe to prevent UV degradation of the rubber?

eccles

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221 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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xeny said:
Voldemort said:
MartG said:
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Tyre warmers?
Maybe to prevent UV degradation of the rubber?
Engines drip oil, oil and tyres don't mix well.

DodgyGeezer

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189 months

Voldemort

6,087 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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U2 carrier testing


Tony1963

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161 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Ground run at night

Lost ranger

312 posts

64 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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Not an amazingly cool picture. But jet flying boats are always a bit special. What is cool is something I learned yesterday which should have been blindingly obvious, one of the designers had previously worked on the HP Victor.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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If it looks right....


yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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Dr Jekyll said:
If it looks right....

Looks weird, but probably beats the Microsoft version of a Flight Simulator for immersive reality...

FourWheelDrift

88,377 posts

283 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Certainly interesting in a rare non-American back hander contract signing.

"Rolls-Royce has commenced testing in support of a re-engining programme for the US Air Force’s (USAF’s) Boeing B-52H fleet, for the first time pairing its F130 powerplants in the bomber’s distinctive dual-pod configuration. The propulsion modernisation is planned to enable the eight-engined B-52H to remain in operational use for another 30 years. “F130 engines are so durable they are expected to remain on wing for the remainder of the aircraft life,”



They still have to get their "American Made" bit on there, to appease the hicks.

mko9

2,328 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Actually, in order to get the contract let in the first place. The US doesn't generally buy military gear from anyone else. For example the USMC Harriers are a McDonnell-Douglas product. Firearms is about the only exception I can think of off the top of my head. The Roll-Royce engines for the B-52 are presumably going to be built in the US in partnership with PW or GE, or something .