Looking for a boat

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Rangeroverover

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1,523 posts

111 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Hi all
As foreign holidays look to be possibly problematic for the foreseeable future man maths has prevailed
Started the search with £100,000 max budget
Told sleep Mr and mrs, sleep 2 kids, decent galley, lol and enough space to spend up two weeks on it.
A month of looking at old potentially ruinous 20 year old dogs we now have doubled the budget.
Have looked at swift trawler 42, grand banks 43 etc.

Does anyone want to sell off market. Ideally like post 2006 Volvo diesels. Don't want a beaten up under maintained relic.

Any ideas links gratefully received

Thanks

Audis5b9

937 posts

72 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Rangeroverover said:
Hi all
As foreign holidays look to be possibly problematic for the foreseeable future man maths has prevailed
Started the search with £100,000 max budget
Told sleep Mr and mrs, sleep 2 kids, decent galley, lol and enough space to spend up two weeks on it.
A month of looking at old potentially ruinous 20 year old dogs we now have doubled the budget.
Have looked at swift trawler 42, grand banks 43 etc.

Does anyone want to sell off market. Ideally like post 2006 Volvo diesels. Don't want a beaten up under maintained relic.

Any ideas links gratefully received

Thanks
As I am sure you have seen, there is very very little stock of decent used boats in the UK at the moment and you will be paying a premium to get a boat for this summer.

As brokers, we cannot get enough boats here. I'm happy to do a proper search for you tomorrow and give you some options, if so please pm me and we can make contact.

Roaringopenfire

199 posts

101 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Consider a Merry Fisher 1095. We turned our noses up at the brand at first, but with three bedrooms, separate shower, lots of room and new for under 200k they are very good value and tick a lot of boxes for family boating such as space - lots of it - and safety. Try Morgan Marine, Essex (I have no connection with them but believe they have stock.)

Simpo Two

85,352 posts

265 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Three posts in and the budget has doubled hehe

Not quite my department OP, but good luck in your search and have a great time on your boat however much, or little, it costs smile

Badda

2,659 posts

82 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Three posts in and the budget has doubled hehe

Not quite my department OP, but good luck in your search and have a great time on your boat however much, or little, it costs smile
The OP doubled it himself if you re-read. I thought the same initially!

Simpo Two

85,352 posts

265 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Badda said:
The OP doubled it himself if you re-read. I thought the same initially!
Ah yes.

I would look at https://www.nya.co.uk/ for starters - whilst Broads-based they deal with some fairly big stuff which would work offshore. At the least it might give him some more ideas.

In that league I'd look at the Linssen range too. https://www.theyachtmarket.com/en/boats-for-sale/p...

57Ford

4,000 posts

134 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Badda said:
Simpo Two said:
Three posts in and the budget has doubled hehe

Not quite my department OP, but good luck in your search and have a great time on your boat however much, or little, it costs smile
The OP doubled it himself if you re-read. I thought the same initially!
Yes the OP doubled it himself. After following the recent excitement of HMS Balfour, I think that means it’s the bounden duty of all PH boaters to further double it. I shall once again watch with great interest and jealousy smile

Simpo Two

85,352 posts

265 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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57Ford said:
Yes the OP doubled it himself. After following the recent excitement of HMS Balfour, I think that means it’s the bounden duty of all PH boaters to further double it. I shall once again watch with great interest and jealousy smile
We can't have OPs trying to outwit us by doubling their budget before we've had the chance. £400K I say, and not a penny less!

57Ford

4,000 posts

134 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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That’s the spirit!!

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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It's a boat the budget will be doubled again before the deals done biggrin

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

210 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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jjones said:
It's a boat the budget will be doubled again before the deals done biggrin
Always happens.

Mrs JS took one horrified look at the tired old boat I took her to see and the moment I hinted what a great winter project it would make she immediately sanctioned going a lot more spendy... whistle

Yacht Broker

3,158 posts

267 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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I would love to help, but as has already been said on here, stock in the UK is pretty scarce now and thanks to BREXIT, the UK market has all but annexed itself from the rest of the civilised world.

On that subject, if you happen to see a suitable boat on the other side of the Channel (or in the Med') sporting a red ensign, it might be worth investigating whether it is actually UK-owned and whether it originally left UK waters. If the answer to those questions is a yes, there is the chance that you could structure a deal where the boat is trucked back to the UK and the sale closed upon arrival back in the UK (thereby preserving the original UK VAT-paid status). This may sound a little convoluted, but if it opens up your options, it is worth considering.

As to what to choose... A Swift Trawler is a pretty safe option. The Grand Banks is of much higher build quality, but for the same price, you will be looking much older and 'old old' Grand Banks can be a nightmare.

Good luck!

Simpo Two

85,352 posts

265 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Yacht Broker said:
A Swift Trawler is a pretty safe option.
And now you can catch some fish with it! (well in 5 years time if our chums across the water haven't nabbed them all by then).

Rangeroverover

Original Poster:

1,523 posts

111 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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The new vat treatment isn't helping I spose there must be a few vat paid boats in the med. No idea what transport would come to

Louis Balfour

26,271 posts

222 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Rangeroverover said:
Hi all
As foreign holidays look to be possibly problematic for the foreseeable future man maths has prevailed
Started the search with £100,000 max budget
Told sleep Mr and mrs, sleep 2 kids, decent galley, lol and enough space to spend up two weeks on it.
A month of looking at old potentially ruinous 20 year old dogs we now have doubled the budget.
Have looked at swift trawler 42, grand banks 43 etc.

Does anyone want to sell off market. Ideally like post 2006 Volvo diesels. Don't want a beaten up under maintained relic.

Any ideas links gratefully received

Thanks
We took delivery of a new boat just before Christmas. It was about 4.5 times our original budget.

We couldn't find a decent used one, so bought new.

Uggers

2,223 posts

211 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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I guess the premium you pay for a boat now with everyone thinking the same as the OP isn't too much of an issue if you don't mind been in rather lot of negative equity when things get back to normal?

I was looking for a boat around the £30k mark before all this kicked off and would have got me something fairly reasonable. Not a chance now, just have to bide my time and wait for some to find the novelty of a boat in the UK to wear off smile

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Why the shortage of second hand boats on the market?

Simpo Two

85,352 posts

265 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Ayahuasca said:
Why the shortage of second hand boats on the market?
Because people can't go abroad for holidays. Last year river cruisers that would normally take a month or more to sell were snapped up in days. I hired a boat on the Broads in mid-September; the boatyard was packed with hirers and cars, and every staff member pressed into service. 'This is as busy as it gets' they said.

Uggers

2,223 posts

211 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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I enquired about a few boats mid summer last year that looked in stock from a broker who deals with mainly inland waterways stuff.
He told me everything had sold, he had virtually no stock and never seen anything like it.

Guess it's what happens when millions of people cannot get abroad.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Could be a few bargains then when it is over and they realise that going abroad is cheaper and easier than boating.