Suez blocked by stuck ship!

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Simpo Two

85,363 posts

265 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Somebody needs some balls.

hidetheelephants

24,224 posts

193 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Easternlight said:
And over three months later and it's still sat there going nowhere!
What a fiasco.
It is if you're Egypt and in dire need of foreign currency; the longer they string it out the less they're going to get.

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Evergreen is due to be released on 7th July. No details of the settlement are forthcoming apart from that the canal is due to receive a tug boat with a towing capacity of 75 tonnes.

Easternlight

3,427 posts

144 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Well I talked that up laugh

Hashtaggggg

1,761 posts

69 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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The chap who is waiting for his sofa will have cause to celebrate

HocusPocus

881 posts

101 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-57719...

Release and confidential deal done.

Bet that was remunerative!

Ian Geary

4,483 posts

192 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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How far off the £1bn were they settled for I wonder?

Getragdogleg

8,763 posts

183 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Ian Geary said:
How far off the £1bn were they settled for I wonder?
More than the case of cigarettes that was not given as a bribe to actually pilot the ship in the first place that's for sure.

zorba_the_greek

694 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Egypt agrees to release Ever Given from Suez Canal THE long-running dispute about the release of Ever Given (IMO:9811000) has been resolved and the vessel will resume its voyage this week, more than three months after the incident that blocked the Suez Canal.

“Following the agreement in principle between the parties, and after further meetings with the Suez Canal Authority’s
negotiating committee and numerous court hearings, good progress has been made and a formal solution has now been
agreed,” the UK P&I Club, the vessel’s insurer, said in a statement. “Preparations for the release of the vessel will be made and an event marking the agreement will be held at the authority’s headquarters in Ismailia in due course.’’


might never know what the true costs will be for release

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Wouldn't they be deducible from the UK Club's accounts, in due course?


808 Estate

2,109 posts

91 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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A tug boat with a 75 ton bollard pull isnt to be sniffed at. Especially if its a new shiny one.

eldar

21,718 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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808 Estate said:
A tug boat with a 75 ton bollard pull isnt to be sniffed at. Especially if its a new shiny one.
Bill big Bollards?

Simpo Two

85,363 posts

265 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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zorba_the_greek said:
might never know what the true costs will be for release
FOI request!

Or if it's the Egyptians, a case of fags.

hidetheelephants

24,224 posts

193 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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A tug that size is maybe $10m, peanuts relative to the overall settlement.

Hashtaggggg

1,761 posts

69 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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How long would it take to get the ship moving?

I guess starting the engine is a little more complicated than turning a key?

And moving forwards isn’t as simple as dropping the clutch and engaging 1st gear?


hidetheelephants

24,224 posts

193 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Hashtaggggg said:
How long would it take to get the ship moving?

I guess starting the engine is a little more complicated than turning a key?

And moving forwards isn’t as simple as dropping the clutch and engaging 1st gear?
How long's a piece of string? I think the crew are still onboard, so the main engine has probably been kept warm; assuming everything is ticketyboo the 'staring out of windows' department can start manoeuvring after turning over the ME on air and passing control to the bridge, a couple of minutes if you skip the full walk around. Given they've not had much to do for a while the walk around has probably been done quite a bit.

A generic start-up from a cold ship is much longer and more complicated as that involves boilers'n'stuff.

zorba_the_greek

694 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Simpo Two said:
zorba_the_greek said:
might never know what the true costs will be for release
FOI request!

Or if it's the Egyptians, a case of fags.
As Ever Green are listed perhaps the share holders will be able to find out?



addams

171 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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hidetheelephants said:
Hashtaggggg said:
How long would it take to get the ship moving?

I guess starting the engine is a little more complicated than turning a key?

And moving forwards isn’t as simple as dropping the clutch and engaging 1st gear?
How long's a piece of string? I think the crew are still onboard, so the main engine has probably been kept warm; assuming everything is ticketyboo the 'staring out of windows' department can start manoeuvring after turning over the ME on air and passing control to the bridge, a couple of minutes if you skip the full walk around. Given they've not had much to do for a while the walk around has probably been done quite a bit.

A generic start-up from a cold ship is much longer and more complicated as that involves boilers'n'stuff.
^ This.

Standard on pretty much all the ships I have been on is that some machinery (pumps and stuff) is shut down whenever the engine is not going to be running for a while, and the engineers normally want around 1 hour to get everything ready, start extra generator(s), go through checklists and top up the tea & biscuit levels.
If you are likely to be wanting the engine more quickly then some things can be left running, but even then it still takes some time - especially in the middle of the night (which it always seems to be) as you will need to wake people up first!

To actually get going they will need to heave up the anchor, and how long that takes depends on how much chain they have used. Standard time is around 3 mins/shackle (27.5m). So you are probably looking ar around 15 minutes to get moving after the engine is ready - so around 75 minutes total.
Of course they might do things differently in Evergreen and therefore need longer/shorter than that, or might have more or less anchor chain out, but pretty sure there won't be a key involved!
Moving forward will probably just mean starting the engine. On most of these types of ships the propellor is basically linked directly to the engine, so as soon as the engine turns so does the propellor - no gearboxes or clutches to worry about.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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zorba_the_greek

694 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Understand she has full crew onboard and the Capt has not changed. They will be doing their daily maintenance no doubt

Wonder if they have had to bunker while waiting in Bitter lakes? Also can their FW generator produce water whilest in lakes or due to sediment they have had to order barges in.

Also would be interesting to know how hull will be effected after 3 months at anchorage. Could have some marine growth that will need cleaning and super polish prop.