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Condi said:
Quite embarrassing/expensive for Libeherr as well, the insurance company won't be happy.
Not us guv!!! https://www.offshorewind.biz/2020/05/06/liebherr-o...mcdjl said:
Not us guv!!! https://www.offshorewind.biz/2020/05/06/liebherr-o...
As excuses go that’s right up there with “the dog Ate my homework”...I wonder when their 9001 certification is up for renewal?
Just seen the video On LinkedIn from another angle and now it makes more sense.
Vessel was on an even keel during the lift and ballasted to account for it.
Crane’s jib was very high (Think 11 o’clock on a clock face) With the load so close to the ship’s side.
When the hook gave way, the ship took a big list to port due to the ballast, this took the jib through 12 to 1 o’clock where, with nothing to prevent it, gravity took over and it fell backwards until it hit the tower and folded over on itself.
It would’ve been much easier to link to the video but I’m technologically inept.
Vessel was on an even keel during the lift and ballasted to account for it.
Crane’s jib was very high (Think 11 o’clock on a clock face) With the load so close to the ship’s side.
When the hook gave way, the ship took a big list to port due to the ballast, this took the jib through 12 to 1 o’clock where, with nothing to prevent it, gravity took over and it fell backwards until it hit the tower and folded over on itself.
It would’ve been much easier to link to the video but I’m technologically inept.
A few years ago we came across some very desperate guys trying to get from Cuba to Florida, it's not THAT far but they had drifted well away from where they thought they were, had no water left and had been at sea for 5 days.
Very, Very lucky.
Makes crossing the English Channel look safe by comparison!
The US Coast guard appeared from nowhere in a few hours and took them on board
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Very, Very lucky.
Makes crossing the English Channel look safe by comparison!
The US Coast guard appeared from nowhere in a few hours and took them on board
DJFish said:
Just seen the video On LinkedIn from another angle and now it makes more sense.
Vessel was on an even keel during the lift and ballasted to account for it.
Crane’s jib was very high (Think 11 o’clock on a clock face) With the load so close to the ship’s side.
When the hook gave way, the ship took a big list to port due to the ballast, this took the jib through 12 to 1 o’clock where, with nothing to prevent it, gravity took over and it fell backwards until it hit the tower and folded over on itself.
It would’ve been much easier to link to the video but I’m technologically inept.
Sounds like the rebuild should include a jib limit stop at around 12 o'clock.Vessel was on an even keel during the lift and ballasted to account for it.
Crane’s jib was very high (Think 11 o’clock on a clock face) With the load so close to the ship’s side.
When the hook gave way, the ship took a big list to port due to the ballast, this took the jib through 12 to 1 o’clock where, with nothing to prevent it, gravity took over and it fell backwards until it hit the tower and folded over on itself.
It would’ve been much easier to link to the video but I’m technologically inept.
Steve
Steve_D said:
Sounds like the rebuild should include a jib limit stop at around 12 o'clock.
Steve
It would be interesting to see if it would make a blind bit of difference. I doubt it such was the angle generated by the ballast to offset. Steve
A limit stop would prevent you from going past the top. However, if the Limit is at 12'O'clock, and the boat is inclined, then 12'O'clock becomes 1'O'clock or worse.......
PushedDover said:
Steve_D said:
Sounds like the rebuild should include a jib limit stop at around 12 o'clock.
Steve
It would be interesting to see if it would make a blind bit of difference. I doubt it such was the angle generated by the ballast to offset. Steve
A limit stop would prevent you from going past the top. However, if the Limit is at 12'O'clock, and the boat is inclined, then 12'O'clock becomes 1'O'clock or worse.......
It wasn't us either! https://www.khl.com/international-cranes-and-speci...
PushedDover said:
Steve_D said:
Sounds like the rebuild should include a jib limit stop at around 12 o'clock.
Steve
It would be interesting to see if it would make a blind bit of difference. I doubt it such was the angle generated by the ballast to offset. Steve
A limit stop would prevent you from going past the top. However, if the Limit is at 12'O'clock, and the boat is inclined, then 12'O'clock becomes 1'O'clock or worse.......
Junior Bianno said:
MartG said:
Surprised no-one pointed out that this isn't the Nimitz, or even a Nimitz. It's the USS America, a Kittyhawk class conventional carrier.
Iwantafusca said:
So newbie to this thread, big fan of vintage liners. What’s people’s thoughts on the future of the Queen Mary, QE2 and the United States liners ?
Do they have a future? The United States has a lifeline apparently?
QM - going rusty in Long Beach, will need someone to invent skyhooks for drydocking.Do they have a future? The United States has a lifeline apparently?
QE2 - being turned into ghastly tourist trap in the middle east or razor blades, which is worse?
US - might as well be razor blades as there's nothing left to preserve after the turks gutted the inside.
hidetheelephants said:
Junior Bianno said:
Surprised no-one pointed out that this isn't the Nimitz, or even a Nimitz. It's the USS America, a Kittyhawk class conventional carrier.
Eyetest stat; Wikipedia sez it's Nimitz, so it must* be true.It is CVN 68 USS Nimitz.
Lots of small differences between the classes but one obvious in the photo is USS America has 3 anchors at the front, one left, one right and one central on the bow. Nimitz class only has 2 anchors one left and one right.
CV-66 America - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c...
CVN-68 Nimitz - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a...
Shape and angle of the deck edge on the waist catapult, deck lights, smaller number etc... all different.
hidetheelephants said:
QM - going rusty in Long Beach, will need someone to invent skyhooks for drydocking.
QE2 - being turned into ghastly tourist trap in the middle east or razor blades, which is worse?
US - might as well be razor blades as there's nothing left to preserve after the turks gutted the inside.
I take it they could never be put back to sea ?QE2 - being turned into ghastly tourist trap in the middle east or razor blades, which is worse?
US - might as well be razor blades as there's nothing left to preserve after the turks gutted the inside.
Isn’t the US possibly getting moved and restored ?
The QE2 was opened as a hotel in Dubai, where it was partially restored and partially renovated. To me, they have not done a bad job and have tried to keep her character.
The wife and I spent one our wedding anniversaries on board (2018) and we do like the Lido restaurant as they serve a wide variety of food.
She is currently having some more work carried out on her so more of her can be opened and used.
The wife and I spent one our wedding anniversaries on board (2018) and we do like the Lido restaurant as they serve a wide variety of food.
She is currently having some more work carried out on her so more of her can be opened and used.
Iwantafusca said:
I take it they could never be put back to sea ?
Isn’t the US possibly getting moved and restored ?
QM is stuck in a lagoon, the earthworks needed to get her out would be monumental, she was well ready for refit by the time Cunard binned her off plus 55 years of no maintenance means nothing works, the boilers are scrap.Isn’t the US possibly getting moved and restored ?
QE2 might be a goer if you like that kind of thing; the main problem is upgrading to meet current SOLAS and MARPOL means it would be easier, cheaper and quicker to order a replica.
US is an empty shell, in the process of removing all the asbestos the interior was gutted; depending on whether the boilers were preserved properly it might be mobile if you are prepared to pay for the HFO and can find enough steam-rated engineers to run the engine room, but without an interior to what purpose?
samdale said:
PushedDover said:
BLACK MARLIN , loaded with a pontoon with 18 inland shipping hulls and a crane ship, from Shanghai destined for Maasvlakte II . etc..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm2cAs445wU
The first picture below (incredible crap picture that is) taken today: Pioneering Spirit in it's home port; the Maasvlakte II.
The 2,7b Euro vessel will be refitted in the comming years enabling it to carry 60.000 tons (from 48.000 tons).
And far away in the background on the right, the highest and most efficient offshore windmill in the world; the 12 MW General Electric Haliade-X 12, enough power for 16.000 households, it's 245m high and still in it's 5 year test phase, cost 320m Euro.
The 2,7b Euro vessel will be refitted in the comming years enabling it to carry 60.000 tons (from 48.000 tons).
And far away in the background on the right, the highest and most efficient offshore windmill in the world; the 12 MW General Electric Haliade-X 12, enough power for 16.000 households, it's 245m high and still in it's 5 year test phase, cost 320m Euro.
Edited by DeltonaS on Tuesday 26th May 20:48
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