Post Amazingly Cool Pictures Of Ships or Boats!

Post Amazingly Cool Pictures Of Ships or Boats!

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Legmaster

1,155 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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PushedDover said:
Wouldn't want to be the chap that made the first cut into the tank with the gas axe...

ralphrj

3,508 posts

190 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Legmaster said:
PushedDover said:
Wouldn't want to be the chap that made the first cut into the tank with the gas axe...
I'm sure he will go far.

Stick Legs

4,824 posts

164 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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The moment when ‘Reader’s Cars’ and ‘Pictures of Ships’ collides.

Brother D

3,698 posts

175 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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MartG said:
PushedDover said:
Did the front fall off ? jester
"I'd like to mention that's not very typical - ships are built to very rigourous standards".


FourWheelDrift

88,376 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Stick Legs said:


The moment when ‘Reader’s Cars’ and ‘Pictures of Ships’ collides.
And reader's wives.




Nice beaver.

Stick Legs

4,824 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
And reader's wives.




Nice beaver.
A bit poorly right now. We are in refit.

DodgyGeezer

40,152 posts

189 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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interesting article with some (to me) cool photos...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/how-a-britis...


FourWheelDrift

88,376 posts

283 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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Reports of Russian spies and attacks against UK assets are thought to be wide of the mark.


PushedDover

5,622 posts

52 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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Still find these - or the scale and ratio of cargo to person - astonishing....



"OOCL gets its first newbuilding in five years and it’s a whopper

Hong Kong shipowner said its latest container ship delivery is its first vessel over 24,000-teu"

5 In a Row

1,458 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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PushedDover said:
Still find these - or the scale and ratio of cargo to person - astonishing....



"OOCL gets its first newbuilding in five years and it’s a whopper

Hong Kong shipowner said its latest container ship delivery is its first vessel over 24,000-teu"
How far down into the hull do the shipping containers go?

MBBlat

1,601 posts

148 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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5 In a Row said:
PushedDover said:
Still find these - or the scale and ratio of cargo to person - astonishing....



"OOCL gets its first newbuilding in five years and it’s a whopper

Hong Kong shipowner said its latest container ship delivery is its first vessel over 24,000-teu"
How far down into the hull do the shipping containers go?
Quite a way
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Containerl...



Baron Greenback

6,961 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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MBBlat said:
5 In a Row said:
PushedDover said:
Still find these - or the scale and ratio of cargo to person - astonishing....



"OOCL gets its first newbuilding in five years and it’s a whopper

Hong Kong shipowner said its latest container ship delivery is its first vessel over 24,000-teu"
How far down into the hull do the shipping containers go?
Quite a way
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Containerl...
Size yes its large but the speed they get the containers on and off is also v impressive

5 In a Row

1,458 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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MBBlat said:
Thanks.
I've wondered for years!

addams

171 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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5 In a Row said:
How far down into the hull do the shipping containers go?
All the way down!

There will be a double bottom (most likely used as a ballast tank) right above the hull, but otherwise they will stack as many containers as possible. The ships I was on could load up to 9-high in the holds but I think the newer ships probably load more than that.

naturals

351 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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addams said:
All the way down!

There will be a double bottom (most likely used as a ballast tank) right above the hull, but otherwise they will stack as many containers as possible. The ships I was on could load up to 9-high in the holds but I think the newer ships probably load more than that.
Is there any access to the containers once they're loaded? What happens if there's a fire down there?

spitfire-ian

3,829 posts

227 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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naturals said:
Is there any access to the containers once they're loaded? What happens if there's a fire down there?
This...


Stick Legs

4,824 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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Dangerous goods are meant to be loaded on deck.

Goods which negatively interact are not to be stowed together.

However because shipping rates are higher DG is frequently not declared.

And sometimes DG is not always properly considered by the planners.

One of the issues with the Norwegian Dream / Ever Decent collision & subsequent fire was that a container full of gin, and a container full of camera film were quite close together.
Once these started to burn there wasn’t much anyone could do to put it out.

(I did a very interesting Salvage course with a Dutch chap* who was winched onto the Ever Decent to direct the fire fighting operation.
If I can find the powerpoint from 17 years ago I’ll share it with interested parties.)


  • Ruud Plomp, works here now;
https://www.bluetack.org/category/marine-salvage/

addams

171 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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Stick Legs said:
Dangerous goods are meant to be loaded on deck.
Partly. Some DG is on deck only, some can be loaded in the holds but it also depends on what is allowed on that individual ship!
This in turn depends on the ship construction, fire fighting arrangements etc, and is specified in the ships certificates.

Stick Legs said:
Goods which negatively interact are not to be stowed together.
This, it is all set out in the IMDG (International Maritime Dangerous Goods) Code which is the set of rules all ships have to follow when carrying deangerous cargo.

Stick Legs said:
However because shipping rates are higher DG is frequently not declared.
Yep, this is a massive problem, and not a lot the ships crew can do about it!

Stick Legs said:
And sometimes DG is not always properly considered by the planners.
Also a problem, although at least the crew can pick up on this.

All in all it's a right PITA for the crew, although with good reason. It's also quite strictly enforced by the authorities, at least the stuff that has been declared by the shippers is!


addams

171 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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naturals said:
Is there any access to the containers once they're loaded? What happens if there's a fire down there?
Depends on the ship design.
There is always access to the holds, but frequently there will be a large number of containers that can't be accessed, especially on the newer ships where they try to squeeze as many boxes in as possible so don't want to waste space for accessing things!

This can be an advantage, was on a ship once which loaded several containers of blank bank-note paper which obviously might be an attractive thing for people to steal. It was all loaded in positions that couldn't be accessed without cutting holes in the ship so that we couldn't access it en route!

The holds will probably have fixed fire fighting arrangements in place, usually CO2 systems although I have also seen sprinkler systems on some older ships.
So if there is a fire then flood the hold with CO2 and hope that works!

Stick Legs

4,824 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd February 2023
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addams said:
Perfectly correct salty stuff.
I was keeping it simple as opposed to being misinformed.

beer